Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

(06-10-2020 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

You can get to the Intercoastal, Atchafalaya which will get you into other Rivers like the Mississippi, Missouri, Red, Ohio. I work in road construction and I know majority of stone, cement and other road way materials comes through that port when receiving materials from quarries all over the US. I’m sure they have other things like steel that come through but I’m not completely sure.

(06-10-2020 12:53 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

You can get to the Intercoastal, Atchafalaya which will get you into other Rivers like the Mississippi, Missouri, Red, Ohio. I work in road construction and I know majority of stone, cement and other road way materials comes through that port when receiving materials from quarries all over the US. I’m sure they have other things like steel that come through but I’m not completely sure.

Interesting. Does this port make use of stevedoring companies or do the companies just use their own employees? I can't tell is the ILA has any contracts here but I can't get the ILA local union in New Orleans to webpage to load. Looking at Google Earth it did not seem that big of a port.

(06-10-2020 12:53 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

You can get to the Intercoastal, Atchafalaya which will get you into other Rivers like the Mississippi, Missouri, Red, Ohio. I work in road construction and I know majority of stone, cement and other road way materials comes through that port when receiving materials from quarries all over the US. I’m sure they have other things like steel that come through but I’m not completely sure.

I’ve always thought that most of the work port did is offshore oil and gas related.

I thought I posted something else yesterday after you posted. But it does not seem to be here.

I did look at the website and it does seem most of the work at the port is around the oil business, which I assume is for Gulf platforms. I guess you don't need a huge ship to make it to an oil platform. Fishing boats on the coast of North Carolina are not huge boats and they survive the open ocean.

North Carolina does not have the type of rivers that can be used for commercial traffic beyond a few miles to Wilmington. The port at Morehead City is very close to the open ocean and not even upstream on a river as many ports are located. There used to be barge traffic to Fayetteville on the Cape Fear but that stopped in the 1990s and I have no idea how much and what was shipped. There were two locks on the Cape Fear River and one of those were damaged, I think, over a decade ago and the state has still not repaired the one lock. It may never be repaired and some are calling for its complete removal, which makes a lot of sense for environmental reasons.

Heads up for Troy and South Alabama folks. Next conversation is about the Tenn-Tom waterway. Another interesting structure.

I know there was some talks about more dredge work in Mobile Bay for more and bigger Cargo ships and to handle multiple cruise ships. I can't remember if it got done or approved.

(06-11-2020 10:49 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I know there was some talks about more dredge work in Mobile Bay for more and bigger Cargo ships and to handle multiple cruise ships. I can't remember if it got done or approved.

They're currently dredging the Savannah River for the same purpose. I'm sure it's all part of the same cluster of projects.

(06-11-2020 11:00 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 10:49 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I know there was some talks about more dredge work in Mobile Bay for more and bigger Cargo ships and to handle multiple cruise ships. I can't remember if it got done or approved.

They're currently dredging the Savannah River for the same purpose. I'm sure it's all part of the same cluster of projects.

I know they are working or or just opened a large railyard for the port in Savannah.

I drive through Savannah heading south and north around Christmas and then over summer on the way to visit in-laws around Tampa. I never get a chance to visit the city as we are just driving through sadly.

(06-11-2020 11:53 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 11:00 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 10:49 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I know there was some talks about more dredge work in Mobile Bay for more and bigger Cargo ships and to handle multiple cruise ships. I can't remember if it got done or approved.

They're currently dredging the Savannah River for the same purpose. I'm sure it's all part of the same cluster of projects.

I know they are working or or just opened a large railyard for the port in Savannah.

I drive through Savannah heading south and north around Christmas and then over summer on the way to visit in-laws around Tampa. I never get a chance to visit the city as we are just driving through sadly.

It's a very fun, touristy city. You should stop in and stretch your legs a while next time.

They've been working on expanding the port over the past decade. I actually just learned recently that it's now the second largest port on the east coast. Before the economy collapsed, you could stand on Tybee Island and watch all the cargo ships lining up to go up the Savannah River to the port.

Visited both Charleston and Savannah on a 10 day trip we took a few years back when the Cajuns were playing Coastal in baseball. Was a very nice trip.

(06-10-2020 12:53 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

You can get to the Intercoastal, Atchafalaya which will get you into other Rivers like the Mississippi, Missouri, Red, Ohio. I work in road construction and I know majority of stone, cement and other road way materials comes through that port when receiving materials from quarries all over the US. I’m sure they have other things like steel that come through but I’m not completely sure.

I watch a doc on the Atchafalaya a few years back that argued, due to dragging and other shipping related changes, it was quickly becoming the primary ocean bound channel for the Mississippi basin, and that at some point the waters moving though New Orleans would not disappear but would diminish in importance and water flow.

(06-11-2020 12:38 PM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 11:53 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 11:00 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 10:49 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I know there was some talks about more dredge work in Mobile Bay for more and bigger Cargo ships and to handle multiple cruise ships. I can't remember if it got done or approved.

They're currently dredging the Savannah River for the same purpose. I'm sure it's all part of the same cluster of projects.

I know they are working or or just opened a large railyard for the port in Savannah.

I drive through Savannah heading south and north around Christmas and then over summer on the way to visit in-laws around Tampa. I never get a chance to visit the city as we are just driving through sadly.

It's a very fun, touristy city. You should stop in and stretch your legs a while next time.

They've been working on expanding the port over the past decade. I actually just learned recently that it's now the second largest port on the east coast. Before the economy collapsed, you could stand on Tybee Island and watch all the cargo ships lining up to go up the Savannah River to the port.

I would like to myself but I always get vetoed by the wife. We are either driving to see her mom or coming from visiting and to make time for Savannah means we have to leave Florida earlier.

I did spend an evening in Savannah back in the summer of 1996. I was part of a union drive at a resort in the Hilton Head Island area and some of us had to visit Savannah for some printing needs. We spent the evening on the waterfront jumping in and out of bars. They wanted to bar hop for a few hours and I wanted to explore the train tracks on the waterfront and stuff like that. I have never been a big drinker but I have always enjoyed trains and infrastructure. I lost that argument.

My mom does some weekend visits to Savannah quite often.

(06-11-2020 02:42 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:53 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

You can get to the Intercoastal, Atchafalaya which will get you into other Rivers like the Mississippi, Missouri, Red, Ohio. I work in road construction and I know majority of stone, cement and other road way materials comes through that port when receiving materials from quarries all over the US. I’m sure they have other things like steel that come through but I’m not completely sure.

I watch a doc on the Atchafalaya a few years back that argued, due to dragging and other shipping related changes, it was quickly becoming the primary ocean bound channel for the Mississippi basin, and that at some point the waters moving though New Orleans would not disappear but would diminish in importance and water flow.

I have heard that before as well. Never underestimate the desire to move earth to fight nature when economics are involved. One need to only look at the efforts put into the Outer Banks on the North Carolina coast.

(06-11-2020 10:26 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  I thought I posted something else yesterday after you posted. But it does not seem to be here.

I did look at the website and it does seem most of the work at the port is around the oil business, which I assume is for Gulf platforms. I guess you don't need a huge ship to make it to an oil platform. Fishing boats on the coast of North Carolina are not huge boats and they survive the open ocean.

North Carolina does not have the type of rivers that can be used for commercial traffic beyond a few miles to Wilmington. The port at Morehead City is very close to the open ocean and not even upstream on a river as many ports are located. There used to be barge traffic to Fayetteville on the Cape Fear but that stopped in the 1990s and I have no idea how much and what was shipped. There were two locks on the Cape Fear River and one of those were damaged, I think, over a decade ago and the state has still not repaired the one lock. It may never be repaired and some are calling for its complete removal, which makes a lot of sense for environmental reasons.

Heads up for Troy and South Alabama folks. Next conversation is about the Tenn-Tom waterway. Another interesting structure.

Correct in that it is an easy reach to the gulf where all the oil platforms are.

(06-11-2020 02:42 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:53 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 11:41 AM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  Does anyone live or work around New Iberia, LA? I have some questions about the port there.

I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

You can get to the Intercoastal, Atchafalaya which will get you into other Rivers like the Mississippi, Missouri, Red, Ohio. I work in road construction and I know majority of stone, cement and other road way materials comes through that port when receiving materials from quarries all over the US. I’m sure they have other things like steel that come through but I’m not completely sure.

I watch a doc on the Atchafalaya a few years back that argued, due to dragging and other shipping related changes, it was quickly becoming the primary ocean bound channel for the Mississippi basin, and that at some point the waters moving though New Orleans would not disappear but would diminish in importance and water flow.

If the Army COE is forced to open the Morganza Spillway and ORC Structure again there is a very good chance that the main channel of the Miss River will flow through the Atchafalaya. The COE was forced to open the Morganza spillway in 2011. During its short time that it was opened the Miss River below the control structure gained an estimated 12’ or River bottom greatly reducing the carrying capacity downstream of that structure.

IMO, uneducated on the subject other than reading a ton about it. If something is not done soon Louisiana will have a catastrophic flood event. Either through a levee failure below the Morganza Spillway above the Bonnet Carrie Spillway. Or another forced opening of the Morganza. At that point all hell will break loose down here.

If the Army COE is forced to open the Morganza Spillway and ORC Structure again there is a very good chance that the main channel of the Miss River will flow through the Atchafalaya. The COE was forced to open the Morganza spillway in 2011. During its short time that it was opened the Miss River below the control structure gained an estimated 12’ or River bottom greatly reducing the carrying capacity downstream of that structure.


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Was the 12 inches of river bottom increase due to water and silt still going down the Mississippi channel but not at speeds and with enough energy to make it to the Gulf?

(06-11-2020 05:35 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 02:42 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:53 PM)Cajuns1252 Wrote:  

(06-10-2020 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote:  

(06-09-2020 12:02 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  I’m not that far away from there. What’s your questions?

I was on a website that that info for ports all around the world. I know there are plenty of river ports and in some cases they have a long route to a seaport. Pittsburgh and Knoxville come to mind. I don't know if what is shipped at those ports are loaded in containers for ease of conveyance to a ocean-going ship or if the barge is loaded for quick unloading for another river port to be used at the river or futher conveyed by rail or truck. I am sure some of all gets involved and some of those river ports are all but dead due to lose of industry over the last few decades.

So at New Iberia that river has had a lot of dredging to make for the barge parking area at the port area. Some effort and cost has been made to get this port to be usable it would seem. And the location to the ocean is not that far and there are no connections to the Mississippi River to move the barge upstream. One could use the Intercoastal Waterway to move towards New Orleans of maybe towards the Houston, TX area.

I guess I was just surprised that the distance to the open ocean is no that far away and there is not much places to send a barge to for all the effort of maing the port work- it would seem. What gets shipped to/from there and any idea of origin/destination.

They have a website so there is enough business for that. It seems to be more active at this port than I may have first realized.

You can get to the Intercoastal, Atchafalaya which will get you into other Rivers like the Mississippi, Missouri, Red, Ohio. I work in road construction and I know majority of stone, cement and other road way materials comes through that port when receiving materials from quarries all over the US. I’m sure they have other things like steel that come through but I’m not completely sure.

I watch a doc on the Atchafalaya a few years back that argued, due to dragging and other shipping related changes, it was quickly becoming the primary ocean bound channel for the Mississippi basin, and that at some point the waters moving though New Orleans would not disappear but would diminish in importance and water flow.

I have heard that before as well. Never underestimate the desire to move earth to fight nature when economics are involved. One need to only look at the efforts put into the Outer Banks on the North Carolina coast.

I could be wrong but I believe the arguement was the natural flow of water was to shift gradually towards the Atchafalaya - the natural flow of water being to get to the ocean by the shortest possible route, which the Atchafalaya is - and it is economic concerns leading engineering efforts to keep the flow toward New Orleans.

(06-11-2020 11:00 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  

(06-11-2020 10:49 AM)kevinwmsn Wrote:  I know there was some talks about more dredge work in Mobile Bay for more and bigger Cargo ships and to handle multiple cruise ships. I can't remember if it got done or approved.

They're currently dredging the Savannah River for the same purpose. I'm sure it's all part of the same cluster of projects.

This article provides some details about the dredge work in Mobile and mentions Savannah.

https://www.al.com/news/mobile/2019/12/n...utType=amp