Quote:A widely read study claiming the use of the antimalarial hydroxychloroquine to treat coronavirus leads to an increased risk of death has been retracted, the study’s publisher said Thursday.

The Lancet, the medical journal that published the original study in late May, said in a statement that they “can no longer vouch for the veracity of the primary data sources,” and “due to this unfortunate development, the authors request that the paper be retracted.”

“We all entered this collaboration to contribute in good faith and at a time of great need during the COVID-19 pandemic,” they said. “We deeply apologise to you, the editors, and the journal readership for any embarrassment or inconvenience that this may have caused.”

The study claimed to have found that there was no benefit from using hydroxychloroquine to treat patients with COVID-19, and that the drug “was associated with an increased hazard for clinically significant occurrence of ventricular arrhythmias and increased risk of in-hospital death with COVID-19.”

It found that patients who took the drug had a 34% increased chance of death and a 137% increased risk for heart arrhythmias, according to the Washington Post.

The publication of the study had major consequences. Trials testing the effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine stopped within days, including a study by the World Health Organization (WHO), Science Magazine reported.

Recently, concerns emerged when the company that supplied the hospital records for the study, Surgisphere, came under scrutiny for supplying questionable data. According to the Science Magazine report, researchers pointed out parts of the dataset that seemed impossible, like the number of patients used for the study, demographics of the patients, and doses of the drug the patients were allegedly given.

Nicholas White, a malaria researcher at Mahidol University in Bangkok, pointed out discrepancies in the data, like the fact that the doses of the drug given to patients were typically higher than the dose recommended by the FDA despite the majority of people in the study being treated in the United States. White also noted that the amount of data coming from Africa was higher than the amount of data the continent was expected to have in a computer system.

Red flags were also raised about the methods used by the researchers, according to the report. Matthew Semler, a critical care physician at Vanderbilt University, said that the study didn’t provide critical details, like whether or not the patients given hydroxychloroquine were already sicker than the patients who were not given the drug.


“If you have a physician sitting with two patients who have coronavirus, and the physician chooses to give one of them hydroxychloroquine, they’re doing it for a reason,” Semler said according to the report.

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They took the word of a pole dancer.

Zero coverage of this on the MSM.

Doesnt fit the narrative

Just proof the Dems would rather people die being denied that drug just to try and make Trump look bad. Dems are the pure evil in the country.

(06-06-2020 10:31 PM)usmbacker Wrote:  Just proof the Dems would rather people die being denied that drug just to try and make Trump look bad. Dems are the pure evil in the country.

Absolutely. And all those who are are fooled by the constant lefts knee jerk hate for Trump are morons.

Congrats on finding this. It's amazing how much coverage it received in the MSM as a weapon to attack President Trump when it was published. Now it's crickets. No retractions, no mea culpa, no corrections. Nothing. On to the next fake scandal I guess to get everybody riled up.

I mostly blame the media for their role, but @FakeNews is unfortunately in danger of being joined by @FakeScience based upon a lot of the claims we've seen about COVID 19.

Clowns to the left of me...jokers to the right...here I am...

CNN ran the story on their chyron for several hours over the weekend.

Plus...
WSJ - Hydroxychloroquine Studies Tied to Data Firm Surgisphere Retracted
NBC - The Lancet retracts large study on hydroxychloroquine
CBS - Authors retract hydroxychloroquine study that raised global concern about drug's use for coronavirus
FOX - Controversial COVID-19 papers retracted from the Lancet, New England Medical Journal amid backlash
CNN - Two coronavirus studies retracted after questions emerge about data

But please go on about something not fitting a narrative.

Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

Good grief. Name drug that isn't harmful if not properly administered.

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

Cable news is bad for your health

It's hardly a retraction when you use it to push an agenda yet ignore it outside a minor correction when it proves false

Newspapers of old did this as well. Publish a retraction on the back page after it does not mean anything

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

So what you’re saying is the study was fake but it was actually right?

(06-08-2020 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

Good grief. Name drug that isn't harmful if not properly administered.

Name a drug that the "leader" of the free world recklessly told millions that they had nothing to lose by taking it?

Good grief.

(06-08-2020 07:04 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

Cable news is bad for your health

It's hardly a retraction when you use it to push an agenda yet ignore it outside a minor correction when it proves false

Newspapers of old did this as well. Publish a retraction on the back page after it does not mean anything

Nobody ignored anything. Additionally, they pulled the study because the data was not known to be reliable. That in no way means that the data was incorrect...just that respected medical journals could not rely on it.

And maybe you haven't noticed, but your cult leader is no longer pushing this fantasy. I'm sure that's because it was shown to be the elixir he claimed.

(06-08-2020 07:07 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

So what you’re saying is the study was fake but it was actually right?

Until someone produces a reliable study showing this drug is trump's elixir...while every other test outside of that French loon keeps saying it's not. It's not.

(06-08-2020 08:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

Good grief. Name drug that isn't harmful if not properly administered.

Name a drug that the "leader" of the free world recklessly told millions that they had nothing to lose by taking it?

Good grief.

Which has nothing to do with "properly administered". So far nothing has shown that anyone had anything to lose by taking it and there have been several who claimed it saved their life. The one and only detriment to it is the fact the weak minded feel it's bad because the Orange man claimed it had benefits. Trump could go out tomorrow and say aspirin helped with headaches and we'd have a handful of morons come out and say he was wrong and tell us all the fatal side effects of aspirin.

(06-08-2020 08:32 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  Was it in their ticker all day as breaking news?

Did they admit the President might be right?

Or did they throw a small story up buried amongst other links

1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

Quote:LONDON (Reuters) - British scientists halted a major drug trial on Friday after it found that the anti-malarial hydroxychloroquine, touted by U.S. President Donald Trump as a potential “game changer” in the pandemic, was “useless” at treating COVID-19 patients.

The RECOVERY trial of hydroxychloroquine had randomly assigned 1,542 COVID-19 patients to hydroxychloroquine and compared them with 3,132 COVID-19 patients randomly assigned to standard care without the drug.

Results showed no significant difference in death rates after 28 days, in length of stay in hospital or in other outcomes, the researchers said.

Earlier this week, a University of Minnesota randomised trial found that the drug was ineffective in preventing infection in people exposed to the coronavirus.

Dozens of trials trying various permutations of use of the drug continue.

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

Good grief. Name drug that isn't harmful if not properly administered.

Name a drug that the "leader" of the free world recklessly told millions that they had nothing to lose by taking it?

Good grief.

The one and only detriment to it is the fact the weak minded feel it's bad because the Orange man claimed it had benefits. Trump could go out tomorrow and say aspirin helped with headaches and we'd have a handful of morons come out and say he was wrong and tell us all the fatal side effects of aspirin.

(06-08-2020 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:32 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  1. What difference does it make...and I don't know...I don't watch news all day long like you guys apparently do.

2. None of this shows trump to be right AT ALL. There are many other studies all saying the same thing basically...that his drug does not cure or prevent COVID any better than anything else while still being harmful to patients if not properly administered.

To wit:

UK halts trial of hydroxychloroquine as 'useless' for COVID-19 patients

Good grief. Name drug that isn't harmful if not properly administered.

Name a drug that the "leader" of the free world recklessly told millions that they had nothing to lose by taking it?

Good grief.

The one and only detriment to it is the fact the weak minded feel it's bad because the Orange man claimed it had benefits. Trump could go out tomorrow and say aspirin helped with headaches and we'd have a handful of morons come out and say he was wrong and tell us all the fatal side effects of aspirin.

You do that repeatedly. You can't wrap your arms around the fact that Trump did not come up with this particular drug out of thin air.

Orange Man Bad. That is all you have.

(06-08-2020 08:42 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:32 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Good grief. Name drug that isn't harmful if not properly administered.

Name a drug that the "leader" of the free world recklessly told millions that they had nothing to lose by taking it?

Good grief.

The one and only detriment to it is the fact the weak minded feel it's bad because the Orange man claimed it had benefits. Trump could go out tomorrow and say aspirin helped with headaches and we'd have a handful of morons come out and say he was wrong and tell us all the fatal side effects of aspirin.

You do that repeatedly. You can't wrap your arms around the fact that Trump did not come up with this particular drug out of thin air.

Orange Man Bad. That is all you have.

You are not incorrect. Media told him to think that way so that's the way it is. It is interesting that he dealt in absolutes completely ignoring that the drug actually did help some people. In any case, it was always to be used under a doctor's care, something the media failed to tell him apparently.

(06-08-2020 08:42 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:39 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:32 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 08:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-08-2020 06:59 AM)bearcat65 Wrote:  Good grief. Name drug that isn't harmful if not properly administered.

Name a drug that the "leader" of the free world recklessly told millions that they had nothing to lose by taking it?

Good grief.

The one and only detriment to it is the fact the weak minded feel it's bad because the Orange man claimed it had benefits. Trump could go out tomorrow and say aspirin helped with headaches and we'd have a handful of morons come out and say he was wrong and tell us all the fatal side effects of aspirin.

You do that repeatedly. You can't wrap your arms around the fact that Trump did not come up with this particular drug out of thin air.

Orange Man Bad. That is all you have.

That's NEVER been the issue. The issue is him promoting it in front of a nation with no policy set for it, let alone whether it even works.

And yes, the orange is actually bad. And I'm far from alone in that belief if you look at his latest approval numbers.