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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-05-2020 12:46 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Can't speak to Robert Morris but SC State has been plagued by serious financial and leadership problems for a several years now, if they make a move I would suspect it would be to D-II, not the Big South, though being in a league with A&T and Hampton for football and the low-cost of travel for Olympic sports to play Upstate, Charleston Southern, PC and Winthrop would probably be alluring.

From what I understand, most of SCSU's financial issues are on the university side, and moving down to D2 wouldn't help their athletics budget deficit much if at all because they would no longer have access to FBS guarantee games. They played two guarantees on an 11 game schedule in 2018 and will likely do so again in the near future. If they're looking to stay D1 outside the MEAC, it's basically Big South or bust, and the Big South as constructed would actually reduce their travel. I believe their longest road trip for non-football sports would actually be to Hampton of all schools.

RMU football is a mortal lock to join the Big South if RMU moves to the Horizon League. Their only other real option as a football-only member would be the CAA, and the CAA would almost assuredly pass on that. Big South won't say no to anybody who wants to play football.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-06-2020 01:10 AM)Stugray2 Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 10:11 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 09:09 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 06:04 PM)lion1983 Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 05:48 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  If invited today SCSU would at worst be the third best football program in the Big South, and most likely #2 behind A&T.

Nope...

Yep.

UNA had a fine run at DII, but that's DII. SC State has been DI-AA/FCS since the inception of the subdivision and has a storied history and tradition.
Still nope...

Well they could be the 3rd best HBCU football team in the Big South if they joined

NC A&T I'll give you, only because SCSU is riding a current five game losing streak to the Aggies (of course SC State leads the all-time series 33-22-2) but there's no way in hell they are behind Hampton with an 8-1 all-time record against the Pirates.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
I would not be surprise that SCSU and a couple of others to jump off the sinking ship for greener pastures. MEAC needs to find other D2 HBCUs to move up, or send invites to non-HBCU schools to keep the conferences going. I know there have been several east coast schools not named an HBCU expressed interest in joining D1.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-08-2020 02:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I would not be surprise that SCSU and a couple of others to jump off the sinking ship for greener pastures. MEAC needs to find other D2 HBCUs to move up, or send invites to non-HBCU schools to keep the conferences going. I know there have been several east coast schools not named an HBCU expressed interest in joining D1.
Perhaps West Florida?
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-08-2020 10:37 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 02:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I would not be surprise that SCSU and a couple of others to jump off the sinking ship for greener pastures. MEAC needs to find other D2 HBCUs to move up, or send invites to non-HBCU schools to keep the conferences going. I know there have been several east coast schools not named an HBCU expressed interest in joining D1.
Perhaps West Florida?

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Only HBCU that mentioned in the past to go D1 was Central State Ohio. They have been gaining students.
West Florida may get an invite soon for ASun which their best bet.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-08-2020 12:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 10:37 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 02:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I would not be surprise that SCSU and a couple of others to jump off the sinking ship for greener pastures. MEAC needs to find other D2 HBCUs to move up, or send invites to non-HBCU schools to keep the conferences going. I know there have been several east coast schools not named an HBCU expressed interest in joining D1.
Perhaps West Florida?

Indiana PA.
New Haven
Augusta
Columbus State
Lincoln Memorial
Only HBCU that mentioned in the past to go D1 was Central State Ohio. They have been gaining students.
West Florida may get an invite soon for ASun which their best bet.

Who mentioned Central State to go D1?
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
What the heck happened to the MEAC where all these schools are jumping ship?

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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-12-2020 11:22 AM)Once a Knight... Wrote:  What the heck happened to the MEAC where all these schools are jumping ship?

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1. Insufficient revenue
2. Lack of control of Branding Rights (or alternately failure to develop MEAC branding commercially, unlike the SWAC)
3. Too much diversity in programs in terms of school size and mission, finances, athletic competitiveness and spread out locations.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
I think the reported rumor of South Carolina State going to the Big South might be actually true.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
The rumors beginning to have teeth in SCSU looking to leave.

MEAC Expansion Thread

Iwokeup posted a link confirming the rumor reported in this thread. I say SCSU will join Big South soon for next year.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-26-2020 08:47 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  The rumors beginning to have teeth in SCSU looking to leave.

MEAC Expansion Thread

Iwokeup posted a link confirming the rumor reported in this thread. I say SCSU will join Big South soon for next year.

No, IWokeUpLikeThis posted a link to another board that is TALKING ABOUT YOUR RUMOR and for the most part concluding that there is absolutely nothing to it.

The "confirmation" in that thread includes:
Quote: He is the same guy who said that both Upper Iowa and Arkansas Tech among others are ready to go D1. He talked about St Cloud going D1 AFTER they dropped football.

He throws about a hundred names against the wall, then crows about it when one happens.

And:
Quote: Is he stable? I mean these are the ramblings of a mad man.
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-09-2020 01:29 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 12:21 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 10:37 AM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(06-08-2020 02:55 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I would not be surprise that SCSU and a couple of others to jump off the sinking ship for greener pastures. MEAC needs to find other D2 HBCUs to move up, or send invites to non-HBCU schools to keep the conferences going. I know there have been several east coast schools not named an HBCU expressed interest in joining D1.
Perhaps West Florida?

Indiana PA.
New Haven
Augusta
Columbus State
Lincoln Memorial
Only HBCU that mentioned in the past to go D1 was Central State Ohio. They have been gaining students.
West Florida may get an invite soon for ASun which their best bet.

Who mentioned Central State to go D1?
DavidSt probably on one of his massive lists that say basically every school in the country should be D1 lol
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RE: South Carolina State Reported To Join Big South Along With Robert Morris Football?
(06-26-2020 11:30 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  DavidSt probably on one of his massive lists that say basically every school in the country should be D1 lol

"Have address and endowment information of D2 schools, will travel to help you build your new D1 conference"
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