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(06-04-2020 03:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:17 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:06 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:53 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Did you see rhe Brees apology? If not you should read it.

Do you not think Brees himself feels like he lost credibility by not seeing the entire picture and simplifying the issue?

Yes. I just read the apology.

I have about a hundred things to say on the subject, but it's probably best that I just keep my mouth shut. I tried having intelligent discussions on social media over the past week, but it's pointless when you show people FACTS and their response is "I don't care about facts, I know what I know", there really is no point.
So you agree that Drew himself feels he lost some cred.

I cant imagine what "Facts" you were posting.

The fact that in 2019 there were a total of 9 unarmed black men killed by police (and most of them, while unarmed, were in the process of assaulting the officer).

The fact that blacks being killed by police has dropped 70% over the past 40 years.

And, before you jump down my throat...yes, we still have work to do and yes, there are still racist elements that need to be addressed. Just because someone points out a fact, doesn't mean they are racist. People can be intelligent enough to be anti-racist and also be honest that there has been progress made.

It is trending down...But do you really feel that people who have been screaming police brutality for years and where mostly ignored due to lack of evidence are going to accept a downward trend when they finally have evidence in hand.

The data I find shows 28...But either way not a huge number.

And this is not only about deaths. It is about the overall treatment of crimes.

Lets compare Crack Addicts (Criminals who need to be locked up) to Prescription Drug Addicts (Sick individuals who need help).

Fair points. I can see what you're saying. I guess I'm looking at social media too much and seeing all of the comments about how there is a "genocide going on" and how a "black man can't walk down the street without being gunned down", type of rhetoric.

28 is the number of total deaths in 2019. 9 is the number of "unarmed", killed by cops. From the WSJ.
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(06-04-2020 01:33 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  Drew Brees lost credibility because he said he loves this nation and the flag?

WTF is this nation coming to?
Even more unrecognizable than it has become the last few years. You hear the new world order people like Fauci spouting the NEW NORMAL. Welcome the NEW AMERICA
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(06-04-2020 02:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:06 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:53 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:33 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  Drew Brees lost credibility because he said he loves this nation and the flag?

WTF is this nation coming to?

Did you see rhe Brees apology? If not you should read it.

Do you not think Brees himself feels like he lost credibility by not seeing the entire picture and simplifying the issue?

Yes. I just read the apology.

I have about a hundred things to say on the subject, but it's probably best that I just keep my mouth shut. I tried having intelligent discussions on social media over the past week, but it's pointless when you show people FACTS and their response is "I don't care about facts, I know what I know", there really is no point.
So you agree that Drew himself feels he lost some cred. Loving your country and being understanding of one of your brothers in your countries plight do not have to be opposing views.
I cant imagine what "Facts" you were posting.

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(06-04-2020 03:34 PM)damackman Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:06 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:53 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:33 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  Drew Brees lost credibility because he said he loves this nation and the flag?

WTF is this nation coming to?

Did you see rhe Brees apology? If not you should read it.

Do you not think Brees himself feels like he lost credibility by not seeing the entire picture and simplifying the issue?

Yes. I just read the apology.

I have about a hundred things to say on the subject, but it's probably best that I just keep my mouth shut. I tried having intelligent discussions on social media over the past week, but it's pointless when you show people FACTS and their response is "I don't care about facts, I know what I know", there really is no point.
So you agree that Drew himself feels he lost some cred. Loving your country and being understanding of one of your brothers in your countries plight do not have to be opposing views.
I cant imagine what "Facts" you were posting.

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My point is proven. Again.
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(06-04-2020 03:24 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 03:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:17 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:06 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  Yes. I just read the apology.

I have about a hundred things to say on the subject, but it's probably best that I just keep my mouth shut. I tried having intelligent discussions on social media over the past week, but it's pointless when you show people FACTS and their response is "I don't care about facts, I know what I know", there really is no point.
So you agree that Drew himself feels he lost some cred.

I cant imagine what "Facts" you were posting.

The fact that in 2019 there were a total of 9 unarmed black men killed by police (and most of them, while unarmed, were in the process of assaulting the officer).

The fact that blacks being killed by police has dropped 70% over the past 40 years.

And, before you jump down my throat...yes, we still have work to do and yes, there are still racist elements that need to be addressed. Just because someone points out a fact, doesn't mean they are racist. People can be intelligent enough to be anti-racist and also be honest that there has been progress made.

It is trending down...But do you really feel that people who have been screaming police brutality for years and where mostly ignored due to lack of evidence are going to accept a downward trend when they finally have evidence in hand.

The data I find shows 28...But either way not a huge number.

And this is not only about deaths. It is about the overall treatment of crimes.

Lets compare Crack Addicts (Criminals who need to be locked up) to Prescription Drug Addicts (Sick individuals who need help).

Fair points. I can see what you're saying. I guess I'm looking at social media too much and seeing all of the comments about how there is a "genocide going on" and how a "black man can't walk down the street without being gunned down", type of rhetoric.

28 is the number of total deaths in 2019. 9 is the number of "unarmed", killed by cops. From the WSJ.

Different sources...And as I said neither is extremely high.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends

Is the source I used and they have a filterable data set.
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I wonder what Phil Trenary would say if he were still alive
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(06-04-2020 03:41 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 03:24 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 03:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:17 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:13 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  So you agree that Drew himself feels he lost some cred.

I cant imagine what "Facts" you were posting.

The fact that in 2019 there were a total of 9 unarmed black men killed by police (and most of them, while unarmed, were in the process of assaulting the officer).

The fact that blacks being killed by police has dropped 70% over the past 40 years.

And, before you jump down my throat...yes, we still have work to do and yes, there are still racist elements that need to be addressed. Just because someone points out a fact, doesn't mean they are racist. People can be intelligent enough to be anti-racist and also be honest that there has been progress made.

It is trending down...But do you really feel that people who have been screaming police brutality for years and where mostly ignored due to lack of evidence are going to accept a downward trend when they finally have evidence in hand.

The data I find shows 28...But either way not a huge number.

And this is not only about deaths. It is about the overall treatment of crimes.

Lets compare Crack Addicts (Criminals who need to be locked up) to Prescription Drug Addicts (Sick individuals who need help).

Fair points. I can see what you're saying. I guess I'm looking at social media too much and seeing all of the comments about how there is a "genocide going on" and how a "black man can't walk down the street without being gunned down", type of rhetoric.

28 is the number of total deaths in 2019. 9 is the number of "unarmed", killed by cops. From the WSJ.

Different sources...And as I said neither is extremely high.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends

Is the source I used and they have a filterable data set.

Thanks for sharing. It would be nice to be at 0, but I don't think that'll ever happen. I know a few cops and the stories they tell about the things they see makes me wonder how the numbers aren't higher.
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(06-04-2020 10:35 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Wow.

Every donor out there that thinks they are bigger than the program need to check themselves.

A few are big enough to kill it. Dont test them.
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(06-04-2020 03:57 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 03:41 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 03:24 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 03:04 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:17 PM)oruvoice2 Wrote:  The fact that in 2019 there were a total of 9 unarmed black men killed by police (and most of them, while unarmed, were in the process of assaulting the officer).

The fact that blacks being killed by police has dropped 70% over the past 40 years.

And, before you jump down my throat...yes, we still have work to do and yes, there are still racist elements that need to be addressed. Just because someone points out a fact, doesn't mean they are racist. People can be intelligent enough to be anti-racist and also be honest that there has been progress made.

It is trending down...But do you really feel that people who have been screaming police brutality for years and where mostly ignored due to lack of evidence are going to accept a downward trend when they finally have evidence in hand.

The data I find shows 28...But either way not a huge number.

And this is not only about deaths. It is about the overall treatment of crimes.

Lets compare Crack Addicts (Criminals who need to be locked up) to Prescription Drug Addicts (Sick individuals who need help).

Fair points. I can see what you're saying. I guess I'm looking at social media too much and seeing all of the comments about how there is a "genocide going on" and how a "black man can't walk down the street without being gunned down", type of rhetoric.

28 is the number of total deaths in 2019. 9 is the number of "unarmed", killed by cops. From the WSJ.

Different sources...And as I said neither is extremely high.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/nationaltrends

Is the source I used and they have a filterable data set.

Thanks for sharing. It would be nice to be at 0, but I don't think that'll ever happen. I know a few cops and the stories they tell about the things they see makes me wonder how the numbers aren't higher.

I agree it will never be at 0...Because just because someone is unarmed doesn't mean they shouldn't be shot...(Black, white, Yellow, Brown or Green).
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So, Gabe and I met.
1) We are setting up the Kuhn/Jett foundation, non profit
2) We have already purchased 100 University of Memphis football season tickets for young adults who would otherwise have the chance to attend games.
3) We are also purchasing suits for the entire football team (100 players) for 2020
4) We are providing $ 10,000 from Jan to April of 2021 to go to underprivileged organizations or children - TBD

So, for everyone taking a swag at me or my thoughts or support, do something beside bump your gums or burning oxygen. Do something to make a difference.
Gabe and I had a very good 3 plus hour conversation and agree on 94% of things.
Making smurky comments, or just making comments to think you are better are meaningless and without merit. Shut up or put up.
Game on
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Cool

Anything for the basketball team?
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(06-04-2020 08:56 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Cool

Anything for the basketball team?

I am personally a large donor for the basketball team. 6 of the 8 NBA shooting nets and the first one to provide funding for the Bahamas trip. Plus more.

The $ 10,000 could go to toward basketball tickets
for children who would not otherwise attend games but that will be up to Gabe he has complete control of the decisions. I am only providing funding.
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I would like to see people like Bandwagon Jumper and others who throw stones at people and pick messages for which they only select their piece to suit their agenda step up and do something they are not doing today. Add to or start something to help.

BTiger who talks so much **** on here, shut TFU and do something other than fishing people. You are nothing but someone who talks but does nothing to help from what I see. Bandwagon and others, do something other than try and make yourself look good
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(06-04-2020 08:54 PM)griffin Wrote:  So, Gabe and I met.
1) We are setting up the Kuhn/Jett foundation, non profit
2) We have already purchased 100 University of Memphis football season tickets for young adults who would otherwise have the chance to attend games.
3) We are also purchasing suits for the entire football team (100 players) for 2020
4) We are providing $ 10,000 from Jan to April of 2021 to go to underprivileged organizations or children - TBD

So, for everyone taking a swag at me or my thoughts or support, do something beside bump your gums or burning oxygen. Do something to make a difference.
Gabe and I had a very good 3 plus hour conversation and agree on 94% of things.
Making smurky comments, or just making comments to think you are better are meaningless and without merit. Shut up or put up.
Game on

Sounds impressive. Thank you for your generosity to the University. I do hope you meant to say the following in #2 above: "...tickets for young adults who would otherwise not have the chance...."

A question for you sir - and trying not to sound snarky - where the hell were you with credible information like this during the Big12 CF a few years ago? 03-hissyfit
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(06-04-2020 09:25 PM)griffin Wrote:  I would like to see people like Bandwagon Jumper and others who throw stones at people and pick messages for which they only select their piece to suit their agenda step up and do something they are not doing today. Add to or start something to help.

BTiger who talks so much **** on here, shut TFU and do something other than fishing people. You are nothing but someone who talks but does nothing to help from what I see. Bandwagon and others, do something other than try and make yourself look good

I know a lot of people that make contributions and help without broadcasting it. Literally every single person on this board, actually.
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(06-05-2020 08:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 09:25 PM)griffin Wrote:  I would like to see people like Bandwagon Jumper and others who throw stones at people and pick messages for which they only select their piece to suit their agenda step up and do something they are not doing today. Add to or start something to help.

BTiger who talks so much **** on here, shut TFU and do something other than fishing people. You are nothing but someone who talks but does nothing to help from what I see. Bandwagon and others, do something other than try and make yourself look good

I know a lot of people that make contributions and help without broadcasting it. Literally every single person on this board, actually.

^^^^^^this

We’ve all seen massive egos before but WOW...

Funny thing is, there are people on this board who give HUGE money to the athletic department, have for decades, and insist on complete anonymity.

Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
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(06-04-2020 10:52 PM)former guest Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 08:54 PM)griffin Wrote:  So, Gabe and I met.
1) We are setting up the Kuhn/Jett foundation, non profit
2) We have already purchased 100 University of Memphis football season tickets for young adults who would otherwise have the chance to attend games.
3) We are also purchasing suits for the entire football team (100 players) for 2020
4) We are providing $ 10,000 from Jan to April of 2021 to go to underprivileged organizations or children - TBD

So, for everyone taking a swag at me or my thoughts or support, do something beside bump your gums or burning oxygen. Do something to make a difference.
Gabe and I had a very good 3 plus hour conversation and agree on 94% of things.
Making smurky comments, or just making comments to think you are better are meaningless and without merit. Shut up or put up.
Game on

Sounds impressive. Thank you for your generosity to the University. I do hope you meant to say the following in #2 above: "...tickets for young adults who would otherwise not have the chance...."

A question for you sir - and trying not to sound snarky - where the hell were you with credible information like this during the Big12 CF a few years ago? 03-hissyfit

Yes "not" mistake on my end, sorry.
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(06-05-2020 08:38 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 08:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 09:25 PM)griffin Wrote:  I would like to see people like Bandwagon Jumper and others who throw stones at people and pick messages for which they only select their piece to suit their agenda step up and do something they are not doing today. Add to or start something to help.

BTiger who talks so much **** on here, shut TFU and do something other than fishing people. You are nothing but someone who talks but does nothing to help from what I see. Bandwagon and others, do something other than try and make yourself look good

I know a lot of people that make contributions and help without broadcasting it. Literally every single person on this board, actually.

^^^^^^this

We’ve all seen massive egos before but WOW...

Funny thing is, there are people on this board who give HUGE money to the athletic department, have for decades, and insist on complete anonymity.

Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Exactly whatever floats anyones boat - but make a point to call out whom you don't agree with.

I am not going to attack you, feel free to attack me.
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(06-04-2020 09:25 PM)griffin Wrote:  I would like to see people like Bandwagon Jumper and others who throw stones at people and pick messages for which they only select their piece to suit their agenda step up and do something they are not doing today. Add to or start something to help.

BTiger who talks so much **** on here, shut TFU and do something other than fishing people. You are nothing but someone who talks but does nothing to help from what I see. Bandwagon and others, do something other than try and make yourself look good

btiger helps with the tv ratings......when the tigers are on and he has nothing else to do
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(06-05-2020 09:32 AM)griffin Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 08:38 AM)450bench Wrote:  
(06-05-2020 08:09 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 09:25 PM)griffin Wrote:  I would like to see people like Bandwagon Jumper and others who throw stones at people and pick messages for which they only select their piece to suit their agenda step up and do something they are not doing today. Add to or start something to help.

BTiger who talks so much **** on here, shut TFU and do something other than fishing people. You are nothing but someone who talks but does nothing to help from what I see. Bandwagon and others, do something other than try and make yourself look good

I know a lot of people that make contributions and help without broadcasting it. Literally every single person on this board, actually.

^^^^^^this

We’ve all seen massive egos before but WOW...

Funny thing is, there are people on this board who give HUGE money to the athletic department, have for decades, and insist on complete anonymity.

Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

Exactly whatever floats anyones boat - but make a point to call out whom you don't agree with.

I am not going to attack you, feel free to attack me.

Not an attack but an observation. Hence the "whatever floats your boat" comment. And I didn't say I don't agree with you regarding the points you were making. I actually do.
Obviously, we are all Tiger supporters and on the same team.
It's the presentation that's interesting/nauseating. But, hey, it takes all kinds.
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