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(06-04-2020 01:37 PM)maximus Wrote:  Honest question,

What does "not integrated like they should be" even mean?

On the surface it sounds ridiculous.



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In a perfect world we wouldn't segregate ourselves.

We do it in church...

In school you had different areas of the lunch room...Even now

Many people choose neighborhoods based on who they live near.

Many black folks choose to live near black folks...And it is not always a financial deal.
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(06-04-2020 01:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
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(06-04-2020 01:15 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Black folk just want to be treated the same by the police...That doesn't happen.

And just so there's no misunderstanding, I agree. ALL people should be treated equally. I am completely against racism in any form. Black folk should not have to fear police. Do you know who statistically kills way more black folk than any cop of any race? Other black folks. Them's the facts, easy to look up.

Dude I have a black daughter-in-law. She's a fine young lady and I don't really give a damn about race. But I will not bow and scrape because I'm white.

I don't think the many of police treating black people different are racist...

Not even close.

But I do think they need training so that they don't target a group of people because statistically they commit more crime per capita.

I absolutely agree.

My only point in this thread, and in this country I'm allowed to have an opinion even if I'm WHITE and even if you don't like it, is that if Norvell was black we would not even be having this conversation (and you know it).
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(06-04-2020 01:33 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Again with posting those darned misleading statistics.

Crimes are usually committed by people living in close proximity to each other...

Unfortunately our neighborhoods are not integrated like they should be so black folks live near black folks...Hence black folks are killed by black folks...Just like white folks are killed by white folks and latino folks are killed by latino folks.

Again with the race baiting.

Race baiting...

Huh...I clarified your misleading statement.

Saying black people kill more black people than police means what...It means nothing because of what I stated in the post above.
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(06-04-2020 01:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:33 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Again with posting those darned misleading statistics.

Crimes are usually committed by people living in close proximity to each other...

Unfortunately our neighborhoods are not integrated like they should be so black folks live near black folks...Hence black folks are killed by black folks...Just like white folks are killed by white folks and latino folks are killed by latino folks.

Again with the race baiting.

Race baiting...

Huh...I clarified your misleading statement.

Saying black people kill more black people than police means what...It means nothing because of what I stated in the post above.

Argue with someone else
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(06-04-2020 01:42 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:37 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:23 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:15 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Black folk just want to be treated the same by the police...That doesn't happen.

And just so there's no misunderstanding, I agree. ALL people should be treated equally. I am completely against racism in any form. Black folk should not have to fear police. Do you know who statistically kills way more black folk than any cop of any race? Other black folks. Them's the facts, easy to look up.

Dude I have a black daughter-in-law. She's a fine young lady and I don't really give a damn about race. But I will not bow and scrape because I'm white.

I don't think the many of police treating black people different are racist...

Not even close.

But I do think they need training so that they don't target a group of people because statistically they commit more crime per capita.

I absolutely agree.

My only point in this thread, and in this country I'm allowed to have an opinion even if I'm WHITE and even if you don't like it, is that if Norvell was black we would not even be having this conversation (and you know it).

If Norvell was black the player likely wouldn't have posted on instagram...

No doubt about it.

I stated that it was a disgruntled player issue and ESPN needs something to talk about. This is getting run because the player gave it life...If the coach is black the player likely doesn't question the coaches sincerity about the statement.

But if the player posted the same thing about a black coach and the players were going to sit out of practice (Highly unlikely)...Yes we would be talking about it and it would be in the news.
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So now we're reduced to making public apologies for a simple miswording. What a world.
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That's the response I can expect from Norvell.

He'll be fine.
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(06-04-2020 02:01 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So now we're reduced to making public apologies for a simple miswording. What a world.

I will pray for your reduced capacity of comprehension in this world.

You seem really bothered.
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(06-04-2020 02:02 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:01 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So now we're reduced to making public apologies for a simple miswording. What a world.

I will pray for your reduced capacity of comprehension in this world.

You seem really bothered.

No, I'm seeing videos on the internet and on TV of people getting down on their knees and apologizing for being white. That's basically what this amounts to. I will get on my knees for no mortal man. I will pray to the one I will get on my knees for that you get a clue.
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(06-04-2020 01:44 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:33 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Again with posting those darned misleading statistics.

Crimes are usually committed by people living in close proximity to each other...

Unfortunately our neighborhoods are not integrated like they should be so black folks live near black folks...Hence black folks are killed by black folks...Just like white folks are killed by white folks and latino folks are killed by latino folks.

Again with the race baiting.

Race baiting...

Huh...I clarified your misleading statement.

Saying black people kill more black people than police means what...It means nothing because of what I stated in the post above.

Argue with someone else

Just trying to give some context to what you are saying...That is all.
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(06-04-2020 01:40 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:37 PM)maximus Wrote:  Honest question,

What does "not integrated like they should be" even mean?

On the surface it sounds ridiculous.



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In a perfect world we wouldn't segregate ourselves.

We do it in church...

In school you had different areas of the lunch room...Even now

Many people choose neighborhoods based on who they live near.

Many black folks choose to live near black folks...And it is not always a financial deal.
Thats called human nature

Their isnt a cure for something thats not a problem... and people of the same culture / ethnicity congregating or living together isnt a problem, its natural.

That being said I live in a brand new house on a brand new street in a brand new subdivision, house in the 550K range, nothing outrageous but comfortable...I would bet my street is more diverse than 99% of streets in the mid-south, or the US for that matter. Would it be nice if everyone could experience that? Of course, but it is not even close to realistic.

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(06-04-2020 01:15 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  There were twice as many unarmed white men killed by cops last year than unarmed black men.



Name one of them.

Not to make this political but one group speaks up about the injustices and the other doesn't. Not their fault one when one group doesn't speak up against police brutality and the other remains status quo. All it takes is for police to be convicted when they do wrong and police misconduct will be reduced.
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(06-04-2020 02:01 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  So now we're reduced to making public apologies for a simple miswording. What a world.

It's effing ridiculous.
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(06-04-2020 02:14 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:15 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  There were twice as many unarmed white men killed by cops last year than unarmed black men.



Name one of them.

Not to make this political but one group speaks up about the injustices and the other doesn't. Not their fault one when one group doesn't speak up against police brutality and the other remains status quo. All it takes is for police to be convicted when they do wrong and police misconduct will be reduced.

No, the problem is that the media chooses what is news and what isn't.

They 100% control the narrative in this country. They have an agenda. Once you realize who they work for and who controls them, it isn't hard to figure out.
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(06-04-2020 02:09 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:44 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:42 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:33 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:31 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Again with posting those darned misleading statistics.

Crimes are usually committed by people living in close proximity to each other...

Unfortunately our neighborhoods are not integrated like they should be so black folks live near black folks...Hence black folks are killed by black folks...Just like white folks are killed by white folks and latino folks are killed by latino folks.

Again with the race baiting.

Race baiting...

Huh...I clarified your misleading statement.

Saying black people kill more black people than police means what...It means nothing because of what I stated in the post above.

Argue with someone else

Just trying to give some context to what you are saying...That is all.

I got curious so I looked a few things up. Two-thirds of crimes are committed by people living in poverty. There are twice as many white Americans living in poverty as there are black Americans. BTF stated that twice as many unarmed white men are killed by the police than are unarmed black men. That seems to hold up statistically for two-thirds of the criminal population. I don’t see a slant in either direction.

I’m not arguing with anyone nor am I stating this as fact. I imagine there are all kinds of statistics that would paint a different picture, either way. I just like to look things up
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(06-04-2020 02:18 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:14 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:15 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  There were twice as many unarmed white men killed by cops last year than unarmed black men.



Name one of them.

Not to make this political but one group speaks up about the injustices and the other doesn't. Not their fault one when one group doesn't speak up against police brutality and the other remains status quo. All it takes is for police to be convicted when they do wrong and police misconduct will be reduced.

No, the problem is that the media chooses what is news and what isn't.

They 100% control the narrative in this country. They have an agenda. Once you realize who they work for and who controls them, it isn't hard to figure out.

This is exactly the problem. Left to our own devices people in this country of all races mostly get along fine.
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(06-04-2020 02:31 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  I got curious so I looked a few things up. Two-thirds of crimes are committed by people living in poverty. There are twice as many white Americans living in poverty as there are black Americans. BTF stated that twice as many unarmed white men are killed by the police than are unarmed black men. That seems to hold up statistically for two-thirds of the criminal population. I don’t see a slant in either direction.

I’m not arguing with anyone nor am I stating this as fact. I imagine there are all kinds of statistics that would paint a different picture, either way. I just like to look things up

As opposed to blindly following the main stream narrative. Good man.
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(06-04-2020 02:31 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:18 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:14 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:15 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  There were twice as many unarmed white men killed by cops last year than unarmed black men.



Name one of them.

Not to make this political but one group speaks up about the injustices and the other doesn't. Not their fault one when one group doesn't speak up against police brutality and the other remains status quo. All it takes is for police to be convicted when they do wrong and police misconduct will be reduced.

No, the problem is that the media chooses what is news and what isn't.

They 100% control the narrative in this country. They have an agenda. Once you realize who they work for and who controls them, it isn't hard to figure out.

This is exactly the problem. Left to our own devices people in this country of all races mostly get along fine.

We would but that doesn't generate CONTROVERSY which generates EYEBALLS for the media which translates to $$$$$$.

We are all victims of the national media and their agenda driven manipulation.
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(06-04-2020 02:35 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:31 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:18 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 02:14 PM)Crazier Wrote:  
(06-04-2020 01:15 PM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  There were twice as many unarmed white men killed by cops last year than unarmed black men.



Name one of them.

Not to make this political but one group speaks up about the injustices and the other doesn't. Not their fault one when one group doesn't speak up against police brutality and the other remains status quo. All it takes is for police to be convicted when they do wrong and police misconduct will be reduced.

No, the problem is that the media chooses what is news and what isn't.

They 100% control the narrative in this country. They have an agenda. Once you realize who they work for and who controls them, it isn't hard to figure out.

This is exactly the problem. Left to our own devices people in this country of all races mostly get along fine.

We would but that doesn't generate CONTROVERSY which generates EYEBALLS for the media which translates to $$$$$$.

We are all victims of the national media and their agenda driven manipulation.

When I hear stories of black kids getting pulled over in Bartlett because the light above their license plate is out...Hell I didn't even know there was light there.

People are still getting profiled today...Even if you don't want to see it.
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