yea, those Antifa guys are great.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/202...locked-fi/

Merely collateral damage in the libtards minds.

I live outside Richmond and have been pointing this vile story out wherever I can since hearing about it.

The city councilwoman representing the district where this and most of the violence has occurred (a racially mixed, gentrifying neighborhood by VCU) was on the local radio this morning talking about that night. She (as a member of city council!!!) was basically told by police and fire that her and her neighbors were on their own. She said her husband and some of the neighborhood guys were going around putting out house fires all night and chasing looters away from homes and businesses.

She has been perhaps the most vocal critic of the idiot mayor for a long time and is a candidate to replace him - so maybe that is why she could get no city response.

In other Richmond news, the tool mayor apologized today for tear gassing the protesters yesterday. The crowd was by all accounts "mostly peaceful" yesterday. Except for one problem, the rally was being held at giant Robert E Lee equestrian statue and a small portion of the crowd was on top of it with ropes trying to tear it down.

Now the merits of Conferate monuments is a matter of debate, but regardless of one's opinion of that matter, the fact remains those statues are heavy and the crowd would not back away. I shutter to think what would have happened if the crowd had not been dispersed by teargas and a stone and iron statue the size of a box truck fell 50 feet into a crowd. I don't think they could have gotten it down, but IMO tear gas was worth it to avoid the risk.

(06-02-2020 03:56 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  I live outside Richmond and have been pointing this vile story out wherever I can since hearing about it.

The city councilwoman representing the district where this and most of the violence has occurred (a racially mixed, gentrifying neighborhood by VCU) was on the local radio this morning talking about that night. She (as a member of city council!!!) was basically told by police and fire that her and her neighbors were on their own. She said her husband and some of the neighborhood guys were going around putting out house fires all night and chasing looters away from homes and businesses.

She has been perhaps the most vocal critic of the idiot mayor for a long time and is a candidate to replace him - so maybe that is why she could get no city response.

In other Richmond news, the tool mayor apologized today for tear gassing the protesters yesterday. The crowd was by all accounts "mostly peaceful" yesterday. Except for one problem, the rally was being held at giant Robert E Lee equestrian statue and a small portion of the crowd was on top of it with ropes trying to tear it down.

Now the merits of Conferate monuments is a matter of debate, but regardless of one's opinion of that matter, the fact remains those statues are heavy and the crowd would not back away. I shutter to think what would have happened if the crowd had not been dispersed by teargas and a stone and iron statue the size of a box truck fell 50 feet into a crowd. I don't think they could have gotten it down, but IMO tear gas was worth it to avoid the risk.

Luckily, the FD didn't allow the rioters much time to block the entrance to the building. The FD busted throuigh as needed.

The funny thing about the Lee statue protest is that what in the hell would the protestors have done if they managed to get any part of that gigantice statue down? That statue is HUGE and any part of it coming down would kill someone if it hit them. Idiots.

In a seperate incident, did you hear about the moron that was trying to saw off the JEB Stuart horse's leg with a hacksaw? Imagine the brain power of somone that atually thinks they can saw through a stone statue with a hacksaw?

(06-02-2020 04:06 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 03:56 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  I live outside Richmond and have been pointing this vile story out wherever I can since hearing about it.

The city councilwoman representing the district where this and most of the violence has occurred (a racially mixed, gentrifying neighborhood by VCU) was on the local radio this morning talking about that night. She (as a member of city council!!!) was basically told by police and fire that her and her neighbors were on their own. She said her husband and some of the neighborhood guys were going around putting out house fires all night and chasing looters away from homes and businesses.

She has been perhaps the most vocal critic of the idiot mayor for a long time and is a candidate to replace him - so maybe that is why she could get no city response.

In other Richmond news, the tool mayor apologized today for tear gassing the protesters yesterday. The crowd was by all accounts "mostly peaceful" yesterday. Except for one problem, the rally was being held at giant Robert E Lee equestrian statue and a small portion of the crowd was on top of it with ropes trying to tear it down.

Now the merits of Conferate monuments is a matter of debate, but regardless of one's opinion of that matter, the fact remains those statues are heavy and the crowd would not back away. I shutter to think what would have happened if the crowd had not been dispersed by teargas and a stone and iron statue the size of a box truck fell 50 feet into a crowd. I don't think they could have gotten it down, but IMO tear gas was worth it to avoid the risk.

Luckily, the FD didn't allow the rioters much time to block the entrance to the building. The FD busted throuigh as needed.

The funny thing about the Lee statue protest is that what in the hell would the protestors have done if they managed to get any part of that gigantice statue down? That statue is HUGE and any part of it coming down would kill someone if it hit them. Idiots.

In a seperate incident, did you hear about the moron that was trying to saw off the JEB Stuart horse's leg with a hacksaw? Imagine the brain power of somone that atually thinks they can saw through a stone statue with a hacksaw?

JEB and his horse are iron (I think), but your point is right either way. I don't see how protesters could ever hope to get those massive things down, but as you pointed out , small chucks of metal or stone could kill people.

The archibishops of DC state that these are peaceful protests and to shut your mouth.

(06-02-2020 05:25 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The archibishops of DC state that these are peaceful protests and to shut your mouth.

No telling what our leftist Pope is saying.

Thought I come back to this thread with an interesting update from the capital of Virginia. There was a protest march scheduled at Short Pump Mall today. Short Pump is the high-end commercial suburban district on the far west end of town. It is where all the fancy retailers and fancy restaurants are located.

Well apparently no one showed up, so the organizers jumped on the Twitter machine and on the fly moved the protest to the more downtown but still suburban Willow Lawn area and were able to put together a small march there that they eventually had to relocate a few miles into the city at the Confederate monuments.

This thing is really starting to burn itself out.

All of the firemen I know down here would have turned the hoses on before they got to the building and moved them out of the way swiftly. If you get in front of a fire engine on the way to a call, you become part of the street. Similar to if you park in front a fire hydrant. Your vehicle becomes the first man on the hose.

And breaking now, Governor Blackface orders the Confederate monuments to come down. The giant Robert E Lee is coming down and not sure which others yet. I've said for year take down the Jeff Davis statue - that guy was an a-hole and not even a Virginian - but Lee, the least offensive Confederate monument in town (other than one honering the war dead on Libbie Hill) was the last one I thought should come down - a man who hated slavery, respected by both side, and was instrumental in reuniting this country after the bloody Civil War.

(06-03-2020 04:58 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  And breaking now, Governor Blackface orders the Confederate monuments to come down. The giant Robert E Lee is coming down and not sure which others yet. I've said for year take down the Jeff Davis statue - that guy was an a-hole and not even a Virginian - but Lee, the least offensive Confederate monument in town (other than one honering the war dead on Libbie Hill) was the last one I thought should come down - a man who hated slavery, respected by both side, and was instrumental in reuniting this country after the bloody Civil War.

It's kinda ironic. Here on the Coast we have what is advertised as "Black Spring Break" on the beach every year. And most of the activity and crowds are literally across the street from Jefferson Davis' home(Beauvoir) and there has never been anything negative towards it. Now granted the beaches are a wreck and you can't drive down the highway during it, but never has anything happened to it for the 10 or so years the event has been taking place. Not even any protests. They just come here for a good time.

(06-03-2020 05:05 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 04:58 PM)AppfanInCAAland Wrote:  And breaking now, Governor Blackface orders the Confederate monuments to come down. The giant Robert E Lee is coming down and not sure which others yet. I've said for year take down the Jeff Davis statue - that guy was an a-hole and not even a Virginian - but Lee, the least offensive Confederate monument in town (other than one honering the war dead on Libbie Hill) was the last one I thought should come down - a man who hated slavery, respected by both side, and was instrumental in reuniting this country after the bloody Civil War.

It's kinda ironic. Here on the Coast we have what is advertised as "Black Spring Break" on the beach every year. And most of the activity and crowds are literally across the street from Jefferson Davis' home(Beauvoir) and there has never been anything negative towards it. Now granted the beaches are a wreck and you can't drive down the highway during it, but never has anything happened to it for the 10 or so years the event has been taking place. Not even any protests. They just come here for a good time.

Before he died, Lee decried the KKK and any other Reconstruction era actions that would prevent the healing. I'm sure the Stonewall Jackson statue is next - a man that some within the CSA hated because he spent his pre-war years teaching slaves to read.

A 10 day injunction has prohibited the removal of the Gen Lee statue on Monument Avenue. A Lawsuit has been file that claims that the deed signed in 1890 giving Virginia control of the Robert E. Lee statue on Richmond’s Monument Avenue prevents its removal. The lawsuit contends that under the terms of the 1890 agreement and a legislature-approved resolution, the state is supposed to consider the monument and the area around it "perpetually sacred" and "faithfully guard it and affectionately protect it."

Lawsuit: Original deed prevents Lee statue from being taken down

Anyone know if this arguement has any teeth or is it merely delaying the inevitable?

(06-02-2020 05:25 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  The archibishops of DC state that these are peaceful protests and to shut your mouth.

There is only one archbishop of DC, and unfortunately he's a leftist. The faithful in his previous gig in Atlanta were very glad to have him leave. Unfortunately, DC has to suffer now. A good reminder of how putting someone in a position who is unqualified while passing over more able candidates backfires, but then, the left loves to do that and that's why we have people burning down cities and destroying the neighborhoods of the poor who can't afford to lose what little they have. Democrat Leftist idiocy.

Those people in the fire need to check their privilege.

It was only a matter of time. Some idiot involved with tearing down a monument in Portsmouth, VA is now in critical condition after saild monument fell on him after it was pulled down. Not the sharpest tools in the shed by any measure.

I don’t understand the getting rid of history. Just because the statue is there doesn’t mean it is honoring him. It is a part of history. The good the bad and the ugly. If anything it should serve as a reminder how we don’t want to go back to that history

(06-11-2020 07:58 AM)VA49er Wrote:  It was only a matter of time. Some idiot involved with tearing down a monument in Portsmouth, VA is now in critical condition after saild monument fell on him after it was pulled down. Not the sharpest tools in the shed by any measure.

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