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So........what's the solution?
I'm seeing a lot of complaining and virtual signalling all over social media but I have yet to see one "outraged" person offer a solution that is reasonable.

So I am asking our minority posters to tell us all what we as a nation can do to end this reasonably.
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Exactly. What is expected on local, state and federal leaders. Floyd's murderer is being held accountable.
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ABC CBS NBC and Fox or at least three out of the four need to be moved out of New York City
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A reasonable idea I have seen is an overhaul of Qualified Immunity in the country. It does serve it's purpose, but it can also be abused.
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Somehow Police brutality needs to be addressed. Rioters & Looters need to be arrested and charged, and protesters should be allowed to peaceably protest.

Now it is very easy to say those things, but harder to to do. It's too bad that our President hasn't been a little more unifying in this. As much as I despise Obama who was most certainly a divider and not a unifier, Trump should have attempted to bring him in for a "summit" and press conference.
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Kalamazoo MI mayor on TV now demanding change, history of systemic racism.
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(06-02-2020 10:48 AM)bobdizole Wrote:  A reasonable idea I have seen is an overhaul of Qualified Immunity in the country. It does serve it's purpose, but it can also be abused.

Qualified Immunity
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(06-02-2020 10:48 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Somehow Police brutality needs to be addressed. Rioters & Looters need to be arrested and charged, and protesters should be allowed to peaceably protest.

Now it is very easy to say those things, but harder to to do. It's too bad that our President hasn't been a little more unifying in this. As much as I despise Obama who was most certainly a divider and not a unifier, Trump should have attempted to bring him in for a "summit" and press conference.

People won't go to the White House for some BigMacs after winning a championship. I highly doubt any Orange Man Bad personnel would agree to meet him in a summit. That would legitimize him in their eyes and nothing he does can be viewed as legitimate
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Their solution is that you completely and utterly submit to them. They've told you for the past 4 years that they want a revolution. You didn't believe them.

You're dealing with terrorists.
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The simple solution is don’t resist arrest. Simple as that. If you got a problem with an officer take it up at the next city council meeting. Chances are with the membership there you will get a favorable ear.

Seriously. DON’T RESIST ARREST AND YOU WILL NOT BE KILLED OR BEATEN.
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(06-02-2020 10:51 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:48 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Somehow Police brutality needs to be addressed. Rioters & Looters need to be arrested and charged, and protesters should be allowed to peaceably protest.

Now it is very easy to say those things, but harder to to do. It's too bad that our President hasn't been a little more unifying in this. As much as I despise Obama who was most certainly a divider and not a unifier, Trump should have attempted to bring him in for a "summit" and press conference.

People won't go to the White House for some BigMacs after winning a championship. I highly doubt any Orange Man Bad personnel would agree to meet him in a summit. That would legitimize him in their eyes and nothing he does can be viewed as legitimate

Oh, I get it...
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(06-02-2020 10:49 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Kalamazoo MI mayor on TV now demanding change, history of systemic racism.

What Change? How?
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(06-02-2020 10:54 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:49 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Kalamazoo MI mayor on TV now demanding change, history of systemic racism.

What Change? How?

Simple lip service that stokes the fire of insurrection.
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(06-02-2020 10:52 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  The simple solution is don’t resist arrest. Simple as that. If you got a problem with an officer take it up at the next city council meeting. Chances are with the membership there you will get a favorable ear.

Seriously. DON’T RESIST ARREST AND YOU WILL NOT BE KILLED OR BEATEN.

There is much truth to this. Not 100% but fairly close.
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I think we're nearing an Israel/Palestine type situation here.

There doesn't seem to be a good answer, because they will NEVER be satisfied with any response, regardless of what it is.

They just want to burn, steal, maim, and kill. We can't allow that.
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(06-02-2020 10:53 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:51 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:48 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Somehow Police brutality needs to be addressed. Rioters & Looters need to be arrested and charged, and protesters should be allowed to peaceably protest.

Now it is very easy to say those things, but harder to to do. It's too bad that our President hasn't been a little more unifying in this. As much as I despise Obama who was most certainly a divider and not a unifier, Trump should have attempted to bring him in for a "summit" and press conference.

People won't go to the White House for some BigMacs after winning a championship. I highly doubt any Orange Man Bad personnel would agree to meet him in a summit. That would legitimize him in their eyes and nothing he does can be viewed as legitimate

Oh, I get it...

Asking a previous President to come help solve a problem he himself clearly didn't fix is surrendering his sovereign authority as President. It would be the end of the Trump Presidency.
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(06-02-2020 10:57 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:53 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:51 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:48 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Somehow Police brutality needs to be addressed. Rioters & Looters need to be arrested and charged, and protesters should be allowed to peaceably protest.

Now it is very easy to say those things, but harder to to do. It's too bad that our President hasn't been a little more unifying in this. As much as I despise Obama who was most certainly a divider and not a unifier, Trump should have attempted to bring him in for a "summit" and press conference.

People won't go to the White House for some BigMacs after winning a championship. I highly doubt any Orange Man Bad personnel would agree to meet him in a summit. That would legitimize him in their eyes and nothing he does can be viewed as legitimate

Oh, I get it...

Asking a previous President to come help solve a problem he himself clearly didn't fix is surrendering his sovereign authority as President. It would be the end of the Trump Presidency.

I can understand why you would see it that way, but I don't. Both Presidents represent different people groups who believe the system is broken against them. I would see it as an attempt to unify a broken country...and yes, we are broken. There is substantial political risk for both, but we are sitting on a ton of that risk right now and it is starting to blow up in one way or another.
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(06-02-2020 10:34 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  I'm seeing a lot of complaining and virtual signalling all over social media but I have yet to see one "outraged" person offer a solution that is reasonable.

So I am asking our minority posters to tell us all what we as a nation can do to end this reasonably.
I think you meant to say virtue signaling. Virtue signaling by either side is meaningless, adds to the confusion, detracts from discussion (which is what is not happening and what you are seeking), and as far as what we can do? The answer is nothing but be aware. The public didn't kill George Floyd. Rotten unethical police procedure wielded by a guy whose motives are unclear at best, and done before the public is why we are in this mess.

He has been arrested and charged with murder. Seriously, outside of a trial and conviction what else can actually be done?

The rest is an attempt by organizers and the Democratic party to try to alter the election possibilities of Joe Biden. It is negative publicity paid for by innocent citizens. Those shown to be complicit with the street violence by direction, or by tacit support through bail for the violators, or phone instructions of where to strike next, should be stripped of public office and tried for sedition and held personally liable for the damages and loss of life suffered in the riots.

The minorities collectively don't know what they want. Some of them been told they should want to rise up and teach their oppressors a lesson. Some of them march lawfully and thoughtfully to bring the eyes of he nation upon the incident in all of its cruelty. It boils down to what it always comes back to. Some people behave responsibly and productively and should be assisted and heard and others use any provocation to lash out in hate, while others use those lashing out in hate as a cover for crime. Each motive is particular to the person. And that is how it should be judged and how it should be treated.

Social grievances and redress is not about compensation. It is about future conduct by the government and its employees. That is why the marchers march for all in legal protest. But it is why those who lash out in hate and those who use it for criminal activity have to be separated by their actions and motives from those acting on behalf of us all whether we agree with them or not. The mere act of lawful protest is an exercise that is essential to freedom. The others have to be dealt with legally because they are either purposefully, or selfishly, attacking the rights and freedoms of all of us and detracting from lawful exercise of protest.
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(06-02-2020 10:52 AM)Kronke Wrote:  Their solution is that you completely and utterly submit to them. They've told you for the past 4 years that they want a revolution. You didn't believe them.

You're dealing with terrorists.

Yep
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(06-02-2020 11:03 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:57 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:53 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:51 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 10:48 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Somehow Police brutality needs to be addressed. Rioters & Looters need to be arrested and charged, and protesters should be allowed to peaceably protest.

Now it is very easy to say those things, but harder to to do. It's too bad that our President hasn't been a little more unifying in this. As much as I despise Obama who was most certainly a divider and not a unifier, Trump should have attempted to bring him in for a "summit" and press conference.

People won't go to the White House for some BigMacs after winning a championship. I highly doubt any Orange Man Bad personnel would agree to meet him in a summit. That would legitimize him in their eyes and nothing he does can be viewed as legitimate

Oh, I get it...

Asking a previous President to come help solve a problem he himself clearly didn't fix is surrendering his sovereign authority as President. It would be the end of the Trump Presidency.

I can understand why you would see it that way, but I don't. Both Presidents represent different people groups who believe the system is broken against them. I would see it as an attempt to unify a broken country...and yes, we are broken. There is substantial political risk for both, but we are sitting on a ton of that risk right now and it is starting to blow up in one way or another.

Barry is culpable here. Getting him involved is perfect democrat politics. F something up and then swoop in and claim you will fix it.
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