(05-31-2020 10:39 AM)fsquid Wrote:  I meant how 68 led to Nixon's win

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(05-31-2020 07:23 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 06:03 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  This upcoming election will be a very near thing. Donald Trump is the sole reason why that is so.

Respectfully disagree.

Over the last quarter-century, the Democrats’ nationwide % for President has fallen within a narrow range, regardless of the issues or personalities at play:

1996: 49
2000: 48
2004: 48
2008: 53
2012: 51
2016: 48

I think Biden is on track to hit 46-47, but even if he hits 48-49 I wouldn’t say “Donald Trump is the sole reason why.”

To me, it’s much more fundamental than that. As a nation, we have evolved to the point where approximately one-half of all the voters agree with what the Democrats are selling. There’s just no easy to work around that.

LBJ is the only Democrat other than Obama since FDR to get more than 50.1% of the vote (Carter got barely over 50%).

(05-31-2020 09:24 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 12:06 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  It’s over, imo. Straddlers who were going to flip to Blue are either going to sit out or flip back. The suburban mom is not going to watch days of cities lit on fire and looted on tv and bricks flying and then go vote Democrat. The actions of thousands holds more power than isolated individual actions. The rioters just drove away the swing votes the Left needed. The average voter doesn’t care that much about politics and graphic widespread events will be at the top of their mind.

I know a few of these suburban moms. They'll blame it on Trump, either being a racist himself & therefore an instigator to these riots, or blame for him not cracking down on it. They might even believe the BS these are all MAGA-loving rioters.

That being said I think you'll see a lot of people stay home this election.

These people have a cabbage for a brain.

Maxine “Hair Like James Brown Brain Like Rick James” Waters saying the reason these cops killed Floyd is they were emboldened by Trump...he’s a co-conspirator.

Mental illness or developmental disability...that’s the list. These people are broken.

(05-31-2020 10:46 AM)bullet Wrote:  LBJ is the only Democrat other than Obama since FDR to get more than 50.1% of the vote (Carter got 50.08%). FIFY

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/nati...=0&elect=0

POINT TAKEN

(05-31-2020 08:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 08:30 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  What response is needed by the federal government?

These are local issues involving state and local governments. Unless they are inept at handling them, why does the federal government need to do anything?

....... nationwide riots and protests in almost every major city and you expect POTUS silence?

Fake news. He has spoken multiple times on this. Most recently he commented on it following the Dragon launch Saturday afternoon.

I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

(05-31-2020 11:27 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 08:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  ....... nationwide riots and protests in almost every major city and you expect POTUS silence?

Fake news. He has spoken multiple times on this. Most recently he commented on it following the Dragon launch Saturday afternoon.

https://twitter.com/ericbolling/status/1...8425310208

EARS PERKED UP

BREAKING:

Trump: "The United States of America will be designating ANTIFA as a terrorist organization."

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

I’ve never seen the media try to carry a guy over the goal line like this before. Current polls seem to indicate its working.

(05-31-2020 11:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

I’ve never seen the media try to carry a guy over the goal line like this before. Current polls seem to indicate its working.

polls

EDIT: yes, I think the "polls" are showing the above, but I don't trust them. No way Biden en route to an Obumba 08 victory as of today

(05-31-2020 11:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

I’ve never seen the media try to carry a guy over the goal line like this before. Current polls seem to indicate its working.

Georgia, Indiana, Ohio and Iowa will not be blue. You can bet your last dollar on that (barring a corona wild card in October). North Carolina doesn't allow ballot harvesting so it will be hard to turn it blue at the presidential level. The polls don't look much different than October 2016 and conservatives are even less trusting of the media and admitting they support DJT.

(05-31-2020 08:28 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Still waiting on a Trump response to show any kind of leadership with this. Good or bad. For now, the void of a response speaks for him.

(05-31-2020 11:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

I’ve never seen the media try to carry a guy over the goal line like this before. Current polls seem to indicate its working.

First of all: if Biden wins Arizona and Georgia, he wins Florida, too.

Second: if Biden wins Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, North Carolina, and Ohio, then he is winning the nationwide popular vote by 9-10 points (more than Obama/08). So, we’re talking the biggest Electoral landslide for Dems since LBJ/64.

Is that honestly where you see this going, as of now?

(05-31-2020 02:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

I’ve never seen the media try to carry a guy over the goal line like this before. Current polls seem to indicate its working.

First of all: if Biden wins Arizona and Georgia, he wins Florida, too.

Second: if Biden wins Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, North Carolina, and Ohio, then he is winning the nationwide popular vote by 9-10 points (more than Obama/08). So, we’re talking the biggest Electoral landslide for Dems since LBJ/64.

Is that honestly where you see this going, as of now?

If the election were held today, yes. There is so much hate for Trump right now. Have we ever had a sitting President bombarded like this man? Karen’s were already starting to swing the suburban vote. What was missing from the current Biden surge was the black turnout. This was meant to gin that back up because he couldn’t do it organically. Last piece to the puzzle is putting a female POC on the ticket. You’ll see voter turnout in places like Philly, Cleveland, Atlanta and Charlotte hit 110%

FYI, Billy is sure his UC Bearcats are going to lose to Directional DII College every year, too. Lol

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

Democrats are living a delusion.

(05-31-2020 03:00 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 02:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

I’ve never seen the media try to carry a guy over the goal line like this before. Current polls seem to indicate its working.

First of all: if Biden wins Arizona and Georgia, he wins Florida, too.

Second: if Biden wins Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, North Carolina, and Ohio, then he is winning the nationwide popular vote by 9-10 points (more than Obama/08). So, we’re talking the biggest Electoral landslide for Dems since LBJ/64.

Is that honestly where you see this going, as of now?

If the election were held today, yes. There is so much hate for Trump right now. Have we ever had a sitting President bombarded like this man? Karen’s were already starting to swing the suburban vote. What was missing from the current Biden surge was the black turnout. This was meant to gin that back up because he couldn’t do it organically. Last piece to the puzzle is putting a female POC on the ticket. You’ll see voter turnout in places like Philly, Cleveland, Atlanta and Charlotte hit 110%

The people who hate him are the same ones who hated him in 2016. I actually think it has toned down some. People can only hate so long before the adrenaline rush wears out.

(05-31-2020 03:00 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 02:42 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:43 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:39 AM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(05-31-2020 11:31 AM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  I think this is more shaping up to look like 2008’s electoral map. Flip GA and FL colors and turn AZ blue.

So Biden wins at about the same level Obumba did his first run?

I’ve never seen the media try to carry a guy over the goal line like this before. Current polls seem to indicate its working.

First of all: if Biden wins Arizona and Georgia, he wins Florida, too.

Second: if Biden wins Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Iowa, North Carolina, and Ohio, then he is winning the nationwide popular vote by 9-10 points (more than Obama/08). So, we’re talking the biggest Electoral landslide for Dems since LBJ/64.

Is that honestly where you see this going, as of now?

If the election were held today, yes. There is so much hate for Trump right now. Have we ever had a sitting President bombarded like this man? Karen’s were already starting to swing the suburban vote. What was missing from the current Biden surge was the black turnout. This was meant to gin that back up because he couldn’t do it organically. Last piece to the puzzle is putting a female POC on the ticket. You’ll see voter turnout in places like Philly, Cleveland, Atlanta and Charlotte hit 110%

Inverse is also true. Lots of people held their nose and voted for him because of the sleaze bag he was running against..,after 3 years he’s proven way more effective than many of his luke warm supporters could have hoped. I think there will be more enthusiasm by his base than Creepy Uncle Joe’s. Or you ain’t black....lol

There are a lot of hard working and business owning black folks that are disgusted right now and will not be voting for a Democrat anytime soon. I talked to two this weekend and they told me that without asking them.