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(07-22-2020 10:32 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Destroying evidence of their espionage?

Pretty obvious. But now it means you have to use NY, Chicago, LA or San Francisco to get visas. Article I read talked about medical spying. The Texas Medical Center in Houston is a major medical research center with about 40 institutions, including 2 medical schools, 3 nursing schools and 6 major hospitals. There are components of the University of Texas, Texas A&M, University of Houston, Texas Women's University and Prairie View University there and Rice University is right across the street. I imagine they use the consulate for spying on the oil industry as well.

We also have 5 consulates. I bet the people in Wuhan are hoping they are the ones the Chinese close. But I'm sure we use that one for intelligence gathering.
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(07-22-2020 10:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  There are a lot of things you can only get in China.
But I've been saying for a while, a businessperson is nuts if they source in China when there is a viable alternative, especially on food and toys. No ethics over there and massive pollution and contamination.

There are a number of places in South/SE Asia that offer the same low cost advantages China does, without so many negatives. India, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines come to mind, as well as Singapore and Taiwan (but labor is more expensive in the latter two).

What else do these places have in common?

Simple. If we could form an alliance with those countries, as well as existing alliances with Japan and South Korea, we could severely box China in. Most of those countries are in the so-called first island chain, a stated conquest objective of China. If we or our allies controlled them instead of China, we could interdict China's exports and pretty much block the oil imports without which China cannot survive.

China imports roughly 75% of the oil it uses. It gets about 15% from Russia, and with a new pipeline that could double. That leaves it dependent on the Mideast for about 40% of its oil, about 5 mmBbl/day, and until somebody figures out how to build a pipeline across the Himalayas (hint: not happening), all that oil has to come by sea--through the Straits of Hormuz, around India, through the Straits of Malacca or otherwise through the Indonesian archipelago. Even if they take the much longer route south of Australia, at some point it has to come through the first island chain, as do all of China's seaborne exports. If the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has to convoy tankers from the Persian/Arabian Gulf, that pretty much takes everything they have, and severely curtails their ability to threaten their neighbors.

China's military, including PLAN, is not being built to confront the USA. It is being built to intimidate its neighbors.

So here's the plan. To win Cold War II (and that's what it is now) we reprise what we did to win Cold War I. Truman bribed up an alliance to contain Russian expansion, and Reagan put enough pressure on their economy to collapse the Soviet Union. We can do that now. The carrot we offer to seal the bribe is pretty much analogous to what we did in the 1940s. We get out of China and bring the essential stuff home. Then we give every one of those countries a huge economic boost by moving the cheap consumer goods out of China and into them--divided up fairly evenly, it's about a 10% boost to GDP for each of them. And we give them the same military protection deal that we gave NATO. And just like Truman did with the Berlin Airlift, we back it up by having a carrier battle group and an amphibious ready group in the South China Sea permanently. Make China understand that to bully its neighbors it has to go through us, and if they piss us off we can cut off their oil and bankrupt their economy.

It's kind of like the bully who used to beat you up and steal your lunch money on your way to school, until one day your big brother just happened along, and now he doesn't bully you any more.
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Anybody following the flooding in China? Three Gorges Dam causing some concern after historic rains. Aerial photos seem to show some deformation.

https://spectator.org/three-gorges-dam-c...ood-china/


Quote:On July 21 Chinese state-run voicebox the Global Times cited engineers as saying that the "elastic deformation is recoverable and not permanent, and that of the Three Gorges Dam has always been within the design limits." In another article on July 22, the Global Times cited Wang Hao, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, as claiming that the "concrete materials used by the dam are different from ordinary concrete" and that it will continue to cure and strengthen until it reaches its "peak strength in 100 years."

Beyond the integrity of the dam, many have questioned the structure's purported purpose of flood control, given the extensive flooding recently seen both above and below the dam. Some Chinese citizens immediately downstream of the dam in cities such as Yichang, which has been hit by severe floods this year, suspect that authorities have been releasing more water from the dam than they are willing to admit to protect it rather than people from harm.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3972343
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(07-25-2020 09:34 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Anybody following the flooding in China? Three Gorges Dam causing some concern after historic rains. Aerial photos seem to show some deformation.

https://spectator.org/three-gorges-dam-c...ood-china/


Quote:On July 21 Chinese state-run voicebox the Global Times cited engineers as saying that the "elastic deformation is recoverable and not permanent, and that of the Three Gorges Dam has always been within the design limits." In another article on July 22, the Global Times cited Wang Hao, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, as claiming that the "concrete materials used by the dam are different from ordinary concrete" and that it will continue to cure and strengthen until it reaches its "peak strength in 100 years."

Beyond the integrity of the dam, many have questioned the structure's purported purpose of flood control, given the extensive flooding recently seen both above and below the dam. Some Chinese citizens immediately downstream of the dam in cities such as Yichang, which has been hit by severe floods this year, suspect that authorities have been releasing more water from the dam than they are willing to admit to protect it rather than people from harm.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3972343


Let's be perfectly clear about the implications of this: Over 1,000,000 people will die in the immediate breech flood and the lion's share of China's agricultural regions will be destroyed and they're already experiencing runs on grain depositories because they haven't been importing US corn/soybeans due to the trade war.
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The photos are apparently a stitching error in Google Maps which has since been updated.

However that's not the same as saying there's no problem. There is severe systemic flooding in the region. The Chinese government has said the dam has had some deflection.
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Hey! Enough of the hard R at the end of Uighers ok?It's a word laced with hate that only they are allowed to use to refer to themselves.
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China takes control of US consulate in Chengdu. The CCP gave no advanced warning they just barged in.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac...retaliates
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Google translation: The U.S. Embassy in Beijing is crowded with people to face-to-face every day!
Voting with your feet, if China and the United States decouple, China will become Iran and Russia in a miserable situation!

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Gotta refill the National Grain Depository while you can...


https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-econo...ng-us-ties

Quote:China’s agricultural imports surge in June, as worsening US ties stoke fears of supply disruptions

China’s total imports of grains, including wheat, barley, corn, rice, sorghum and soybeans, jumped 80.6 per cent by volume in June

China is importing more to comply with the US trade deal, but also to fill domestic supply gaps and hold down food prices
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US sells 66 F-16s made in SC to Taiwan
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We need to arm Taiwan to the teeth.

We need to recognize that we are in Cold War II and this time the enemy is China. We can win it the same way we won Cold War I. Truman bribed up an alliance to contain Soviet ambitions, and then Reagan put pressure on their economy and crashed the Soviet Union. It will work again. Do an "Asian NATO" with South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, Australia, India, Vietnam. We've already got India, Japan, and Australia in the Quad, so expand it.

Then we need to have a carrier battle group (CVBG) and an amphibious ready group (ARG) in the South China Sea on a continual basis. And make sure the Chinese understand that we can cut off their oil tomorrow.

In the end, I think we could very well see the Tom Clancy "Bear and the Dragon" scenario, where we end up allied with Russia against China (just like we allied with them against Germany in WWII), admit them to NATO, and fight with them to defend the Siberian oil fields against Chinese invaders.
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Quote:Big Brother vs China’s Uighurs

Constant surveillance, cultural suppression and ‘re-education’ are the day-to-day reality for China’s Muslim minorities. And the technology giants that enable it are closer than we might think

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magaz...as-uighurs
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https://reason.com/2020/09/08/disney-tha...n-credits/

Quote:Disney Thanks Chinese Labor Camp Authorities in Mulan Credits

The new Mulan movie is facing a barrage of criticism—and promises to boycott—for filming near Chinese concentration camps and then thanking the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) for the privilege.

The film—a live-action version of the 1998 Disney cartoon by the same name—is based on Chinese folklore about a young woman (Hua Mulan) who pretends to be a boy so that she can fight in her father's place when he is conscripted into the Chinese army. In a sense, it's a tale about cleverness, bravery, and familial love helping to overcome hardships brought about by a violent and overbearing government.

That's makes Disney's filming location—Xinjiang—an extra slap in the face. Xinjiang is where China has been holding Uighurs in concentration camps and subjecting them and other Muslim minorities to horrible human rights abuses.

"The repression of ethnic Uighurs and Kazakhs in the western part of the country has been increasingly brutal and systematic," explained Daniel Drezner at Reason in April. "The erection of a massive network of internment facilities, prisons, and forced labor camps speaks to the regime's ruthlessness and deep illiberalism."

Which brings us back to Mulan. After the movie's Friday release "observers noted [that] in the final credits Disney offers 'special thanks' to eight government entities in Xinjiang, including the public security bureau in Turpan, a city in eastern Xinjiang where several re-education camps have been documented," notes The Guardian. In addition:

The film also expresses thanks to the "publicity department of CPC Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomy Region Committee", the Chinese Communist party's propaganda department in Xinjiang. Disney has been approached for comment. […]

Activists calling for a boycott of the film are now highlighting its links to Xinjiang, while other researchers noted that the public security bureau in Turpan oversees at least 14 internment camps in the area.
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(09-05-2020 06:52 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  
Quote:Big Brother vs China’s Uighurs

Constant surveillance, cultural suppression and ‘re-education’ are the day-to-day reality for China’s Muslim minorities. And the technology giants that enable it are closer than we might think

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/magaz...as-uighurs

Muslim Lives Matter.............


Where are the MLM peaceful protests? Rioting and looting would be off the hook over there with all the Electronics and Nike stores to choose from!
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"In the end, I think we could very well see the Tom Clancy "Bear and the Dragon" scenario, where we end up allied with Russia against China (just like we allied with them against Germany in WWII), admit them to NATO, and fight with them to defend the Siberian oil fields against Chinese invaders."

No way. Keep Russia where they are and never in Nato. If we get into a war with China Russia would never side with us. We know they are our enemy and so do they. Nothing that they have ever done shows that they are working in our interest. They even screwed Nato by offering Germany their oil and Germany gladly accepted it. What gives? You don't help the country that everyone in Nato is arming to protect themselves from. Germany is handing out billions and propping up their enemy, which they are, enemy.

Also, letting them join Nato will have the same results that we had with letting China join the WTO. It backfired on us.
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One of my old history profs used to say that countries don't generally have long-term allies, but they do have common enemies. We've never been good friends with Russia, but we've never fought a war against them. France and Russia have historically allied against Germany.

Russia may not be our friend, but they are't going to be much of a player much longer. Their demographics mean they run out of 20-somethings in about a decade, and you can't man an Army, Navy, and Air Force without 20-somethings. This is actually a lot of what brought down the Soviet Union. The low Slav birth rate (you don't make a lot of babies when you drink vodka until you pass out) meant that the USSR was going to become majority Muslim by around 2050, and the Red Army age group was going to get there around now. So they got rid of the Muslims, and now they are just stuck with the low Slav birth rate.

China is also running out of 20-somethings, thanks to the one child policy. But a shortage of 20-somethings in a population of 1.5 billion is a different proposition from a shortage of 20-somethings in a population of 150 million. They have other problems. They are a bunch of folks who don't like each other. Warlike north doesn't get along with business-like Yangtze Valley, and neither of them get along with the Cantonese south. Plus they have Tibet and the Uighurs in the west. Their solution has been to export cheap consumer goods and used the cash flow to finance make-work projects with little economic usefulness (the empty cities for one) to keep the people too busy to revolt. If that comes apart, they have economic ruin and they starve to death. And it is all dependent on imported oil. They consume about 13 MMBbl/day, going up, and they produce domestically about 4 MMBbl/day, so they are importing 9 MMBbl/day. About 2 MMBbl/day come from Siberia, and with a new pipeline that could go up to 4 MMBl/day. But that leaves 5 MMBbl/day to come from somewhere else, almost all Mideast. And until somebody figures out how to run a pipeline over the Himalayas, that has to come by sea--through the Straits of Hormuz, around India, through the Straits of Malacca or otherwise through Indonesia, and across the South China Sea. They are trying to ally with Iran to address the start of that trip, and they have built "islands" in the SCS to protect the last part, but they are badly exposed in between. If we can ally with India and Indonesia, we can pretty much cut their oil off any time we want to, and they can't really stop us. If they have to convoy oil tankers from the Mideast to China, that pretty much uses up every ship they have in PLAN, and more.

We won Cold War I because Truman bribed up an alliance to contain Soviet expansion in Europe, and Regan put pressure on their economy and collapsed them. We can do the same with China. Bribe up an alliance with Japan, Australia, India, Malaysia, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, and Thailand, and then we can strangle their oil if they provoke us. We can do it the same way we did Western Europe, economics (give them access to our markets on preferred basis, and move a lot of the manufacturing that we formerly had in China) and defense (keep a carrier battle group and an amphibious ready group in the SCS on an ongoing basis).
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