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(07-22-2020 10:32 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Destroying evidence of their espionage?

Pretty obvious. But now it means you have to use NY, Chicago, LA or San Francisco to get visas. Article I read talked about medical spying. The Texas Medical Center in Houston is a major medical research center with about 40 institutions, including 2 medical schools, 3 nursing schools and 6 major hospitals. There are components of the University of Texas, Texas A&M, University of Houston, Texas Women's University and Prairie View University there and Rice University is right across the street. I imagine they use the consulate for spying on the oil industry as well.

We also have 5 consulates. I bet the people in Wuhan are hoping they are the ones the Chinese close. But I'm sure we use that one for intelligence gathering.
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(07-22-2020 10:34 AM)bullet Wrote:  There are a lot of things you can only get in China.
But I've been saying for a while, a businessperson is nuts if they source in China when there is a viable alternative, especially on food and toys. No ethics over there and massive pollution and contamination.

There are a number of places in South/SE Asia that offer the same low cost advantages China does, without so many negatives. India, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia, Indonesia, Philippines come to mind, as well as Singapore and Taiwan (but labor is more expensive in the latter two).

What else do these places have in common?

Simple. If we could form an alliance with those countries, as well as existing alliances with Japan and South Korea, we could severely box China in. Most of those countries are in the so-called first island chain, a stated conquest objective of China. If we or our allies controlled them instead of China, we could interdict China's exports and pretty much block the oil imports without which China cannot survive.

China imports roughly 75% of the oil it uses. It gets about 15% from Russia, and with a new pipeline that could double. That leaves it dependent on the Mideast for about 40% of its oil, about 5 mmBbl/day, and until somebody figures out how to build a pipeline across the Himalayas (hint: not happening), all that oil has to come by sea--through the Straits of Hormuz, around India, through the Straits of Malacca or otherwise through the Indonesian archipelago. Even if they take the much longer route south of Australia, at some point it has to come through the first island chain, as do all of China's seaborne exports. If the People's Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) has to convoy tankers from the Persian/Arabian Gulf, that pretty much takes everything they have, and severely curtails their ability to threaten their neighbors.

China's military, including PLAN, is not being built to confront the USA. It is being built to intimidate its neighbors.

So here's the plan. To win Cold War II (and that's what it is now) we reprise what we did to win Cold War I. Truman bribed up an alliance to contain Russian expansion, and Reagan put enough pressure on their economy to collapse the Soviet Union. We can do that now. The carrot we offer to seal the bribe is pretty much analogous to what we did in the 1940s. We get out of China and bring the essential stuff home. Then we give every one of those countries a huge economic boost by moving the cheap consumer goods out of China and into them--divided up fairly evenly, it's about a 10% boost to GDP for each of them. And we give them the same military protection deal that we gave NATO. And just like Truman did with the Berlin Airlift, we back it up by having a carrier battle group and an amphibious ready group in the South China Sea permanently. Make China understand that to bully its neighbors it has to go through us, and if they piss us off we can cut off their oil and bankrupt their economy.

It's kind of like the bully who used to beat you up and steal your lunch money on your way to school, until one day your big brother just happened along, and now he doesn't bully you any more.
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Anybody following the flooding in China? Three Gorges Dam causing some concern after historic rains. Aerial photos seem to show some deformation.

https://spectator.org/three-gorges-dam-c...ood-china/


Quote:On July 21 Chinese state-run voicebox the Global Times cited engineers as saying that the "elastic deformation is recoverable and not permanent, and that of the Three Gorges Dam has always been within the design limits." In another article on July 22, the Global Times cited Wang Hao, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, as claiming that the "concrete materials used by the dam are different from ordinary concrete" and that it will continue to cure and strengthen until it reaches its "peak strength in 100 years."

Beyond the integrity of the dam, many have questioned the structure's purported purpose of flood control, given the extensive flooding recently seen both above and below the dam. Some Chinese citizens immediately downstream of the dam in cities such as Yichang, which has been hit by severe floods this year, suspect that authorities have been releasing more water from the dam than they are willing to admit to protect it rather than people from harm.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3972343
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(07-25-2020 09:34 AM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Anybody following the flooding in China? Three Gorges Dam causing some concern after historic rains. Aerial photos seem to show some deformation.

https://spectator.org/three-gorges-dam-c...ood-china/


Quote:On July 21 Chinese state-run voicebox the Global Times cited engineers as saying that the "elastic deformation is recoverable and not permanent, and that of the Three Gorges Dam has always been within the design limits." In another article on July 22, the Global Times cited Wang Hao, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, as claiming that the "concrete materials used by the dam are different from ordinary concrete" and that it will continue to cure and strengthen until it reaches its "peak strength in 100 years."

Beyond the integrity of the dam, many have questioned the structure's purported purpose of flood control, given the extensive flooding recently seen both above and below the dam. Some Chinese citizens immediately downstream of the dam in cities such as Yichang, which has been hit by severe floods this year, suspect that authorities have been releasing more water from the dam than they are willing to admit to protect it rather than people from harm.

https://www.taiwannews.com.tw/en/news/3972343


Let's be perfectly clear about the implications of this: Over 1,000,000 people will die in the immediate breech flood and the lion's share of China's agricultural regions will be destroyed and they're already experiencing runs on grain depositories because they haven't been importing US corn/soybeans due to the trade war.
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The photos are apparently a stitching error in Google Maps which has since been updated.

However that's not the same as saying there's no problem. There is severe systemic flooding in the region. The Chinese government has said the dam has had some deflection.
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Hey! Enough of the hard R at the end of Uighers ok?It's a word laced with hate that only they are allowed to use to refer to themselves.
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China takes control of US consulate in Chengdu. The CCP gave no advanced warning they just barged in.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomac...retaliates
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Google translation: The U.S. Embassy in Beijing is crowded with people to face-to-face every day!
Voting with your feet, if China and the United States decouple, China will become Iran and Russia in a miserable situation!


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Gotta refill the National Grain Depository while you can...


https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-econo...ng-us-ties

Quote:China’s agricultural imports surge in June, as worsening US ties stoke fears of supply disruptions

China’s total imports of grains, including wheat, barley, corn, rice, sorghum and soybeans, jumped 80.6 per cent by volume in June

China is importing more to comply with the US trade deal, but also to fill domestic supply gaps and hold down food prices
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