Out freaking standing on Archie! He had a lot of legit schools offering him too. VCU, St Louis, UNT, UC Santa Barbara, Buffalo, Toledo, San Jose State, among others
Now that Archie is signed, I think one has to ponder, would we have snagged him without the AUBC? I feel like a top 35 combo guard signee doesn't happen with the Convo. I like what Coach By is doing in high school recruitment and the transfer porta. I hope this season is the start of a nice upward trajectory in the W-L column. Looking forward to seeing Archie in the purple and gold.
(11-09-2022 02:08 PM)CarRamrod Wrote: Now that Archie is signed, I think one has to ponder, would we have snagged him without the AUBC? I feel like a top 35 combo guard signee doesn't happen with the Convo. I like what Coach By is doing in high school recruitment and the transfer porta. I hope this season is the start of a nice upward trajectory in the W-L column. Looking forward to seeing Archie in the purple and gold.
The AUBC most definitely made an impression. From the integrated practice court, the locker room, weight training and other support spaces, the AUBC is as good as it gets. The Convo wouldn’t had had a chance to get this player. Same goes for being able to offer the full cost of attendance. Coach By is doing well in the wild-wild west of recruiting in this NiL/transfer portal world we now live in.
6’7” Jaylen Carey commits to dukes over ole miss, fau, fiu, southern miss, chatty, Ohio, bowling green, Stetson, fgcu
He's got a big body and might even grow some more as his brother Vernon Carey is 6'10" 270lbs. Vernon went to Duke and now plays for the Washington Wizards.
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6’7” Jaylen Carey commits to dukes over ole miss, fau, fiu, southern miss, chatty, Ohio, bowling green, Stetson, fgcu
This is a huge signing! In more than one way. It’s not just his height (either 6’7” or 6’8” depending on what review you’re reading), this young man weighs around 260#!!!
Here’s a link to some video when he was just 13 years old. This player could very well turn into the impact C JMU hasn’t had since Denzel Bowles.
(11-15-2022 11:41 PM)olddawg Wrote: Saw somewhere that he was 6'7" 260lbs at age 13?!
He’s definitely a load, and given his pro brother’s height, there’s a possibility he may still grow a couple 2-3 inches. His signing, along with the PG from Houston, are encouraging indication that Coach By and staff are knocking it out of the park with recruiting.
In addition to his brother who is in the NBA (was #6 national overall recruit in that crazy Duke class with Reddish and Barrett), dad played 8 seasons as an o lineman for the Dolphins after winning a national championship at the U in 2001.
Really good bloodlines.
The tape I've seen on Jaylen looks really good. If he were 6 10 like bro he'd be a high majo talent IMO. Good footwork, efficient, complete game.
(11-16-2022 06:52 AM)PhillyDuke Wrote: In addition to his brother who is in the NBA (was #6 national overall recruit in that crazy Duke class with Reddish and Barrett), dad played 8 seasons as an o lineman for the Dolphins after winning a national championship at the U in 2001.
Really good bloodlines.
The tape I've seen on Jaylen looks really good. If he were 6 10 like bro he'd be a high majo talent IMO. Good footwork, efficient, complete game.
Very excited for this get! We’ll just have to up our smoothie game if he succeeds here and the high majors start calling in the portal.
As regular posters here may recall me saying, I believe we have a very good men's basketball team that is is one key position from being an extremely good, maybe even dominant (by Sun Belt standards) basketball team. We lack a true post player who can score down low, kick out for treys, block shots, and cause opposing teams fits in the paint.
As some may also recall, I have voiced my jealousy and perplexion regarding the abundance of riches at Duke University in the 7-footer department.
Duke lists five centers on their roster. Senior Ryan Young is the midget at 6'10" and he is the sixth man, playing 20 minutes per game, mostly as a hybrid 4/5. All of the others are 7'+ underclassmen, as follows:
Kyle Filipowski - 7' freshman starter and the team's best player, averaging 15 points and 9 reebs a game. Can move to the NBA next season if he wants to.
Derek Lively, 7'1" freshman - comes off the bench, 18 minutes per game, 5 points, 5 reebs, quick and mobile, a shot-blocking machine, leads the team in that category by a long shot (pun intended). I believe he also has next-level potential and may be gone after this year or may be next year's star if Filipowski leaves.
Christian Reeves - another 7'1" freshman. Very talented but only scores 1 point in 3 minutes per game. If both Filipowski and Lively move to the NBA next year, Reeves could move into the spotlight. If Flip and Lively both stay for another year at Duke, would Reeves consider the transfer portal? I would certainly think so.
This brings us to our fourth and most interesting 7-footer (my opinion) and the one most likely to transfer. Stanley Borden is a 7' sophomore walk-on from Istanbul, Turkey. A very cerebral player (will make a great coach someday), Borden has range and ability that appears to be untested according to the limited film available. He moves well, has a sweet hook and mid-range jumper (which makes me believe he could be a threat from behind the arc), plays solid post defense, is a shot-blocking machine, and is a very popular player (quite a character, actually, as demonstrated by his saxophone intro to Duke fans at the beginning of the season - video below).
Because of the transfer portal, Coach By could make huge recruiting advances using Duke as a more-than-fertile recruiting ground. Borden would be a great place to start.
(02-18-2023 02:21 PM)Purple Wrote: As regular posters here may recall me saying, I believe we have a very good men's basketball team that is is one key position from being an extremely good, maybe even dominant (by Sun Belt standards) basketball team. We lack a true post player who can score down low, kick out for treys, block shots, and cause opposing teams fits in the paint.
As some may also recall, I have voiced my jealousy and perplexion regarding the abundance of riches at Duke University in the 7-footer department.
Duke lists five centers on their roster. Senior Ryan Young is the midget at 6'10" and he is the sixth man, playing 20 minutes per game, mostly as a hybrid 4/5. All of the others are 7'+ underclassmen, as follows:
Kyle Filipowski - 7' freshman starter and the team's best player, averaging 15 points and 9 reebs a game. Can move to the NBA next season if he wants to.
Derek Lively, 7'1" freshman - comes off the bench, 18 minutes per game, 5 points, 5 reebs, quick and mobile, a shot-blocking machine, leads the team in that category by a long shot (pun intended). I believe he also has next-level potential and may be gone after this year or may be next year's star if Filipowski leaves.
Christian Reeves - another 7'1" freshman. Very talented but only scores 1 point in 3 minutes per game. If both Filipowski and Lively move to the NBA next year, Reeves could move into the spotlight. If Flip and Lively both stay for another year at Duke, would Reeves consider the transfer portal? I would certainly think so.
This brings us to our fourth and most interesting 7-footer (my opinion) and the one most likely to transfer. Stanley Borden is a 7' sophomore walk-on from Istanbul, Turkey. A very cerebral player (will make a great coach someday), Borden has range and ability that appears to be untested according to the limited film available. He moves well, has a sweet hook and mid-range jumper (which makes me believe he could be a threat from behind the arc), plays solid post defense, is a shot-blocking machine, and is a very popular player (quite a character, actually, as demonstrated by his saxophone intro to Duke fans at the beginning of the season - video below).
Because of the transfer portal, Coach By could make huge recruiting advances using Duke as a more-than-fertile recruiting ground. Borden would be a great place to start.
Fast forward to the 3:00 mark....
Borden is a stiff who doesn’t see the floor at Duke.
Byington likes players who can play 3,4,5 positions.
Doesn’t fit what Byington likes or wants. Hard pass.
(02-18-2023 02:21 PM)Purple Wrote: As regular posters here may recall me saying, I believe we have a very good men's basketball team that is is one key position from being an extremely good, maybe even dominant (by Sun Belt standards) basketball team. We lack a true post player who can score down low, kick out for treys, block shots, and cause opposing teams fits in the paint.
As some may also recall, I have voiced my jealousy and perplexion regarding the abundance of riches at Duke University in the 7-footer department.
Duke lists five centers on their roster. Senior Ryan Young is the midget at 6'10" and he is the sixth man, playing 20 minutes per game, mostly as a hybrid 4/5. All of the others are 7'+ underclassmen, as follows:
Kyle Filipowski - 7' freshman starter and the team's best player, averaging 15 points and 9 reebs a game. Can move to the NBA next season if he wants to.
Derek Lively, 7'1" freshman - comes off the bench, 18 minutes per game, 5 points, 5 reebs, quick and mobile, a shot-blocking machine, leads the team in that category by a long shot (pun intended). I believe he also has next-level potential and may be gone after this year or may be next year's star if Filipowski leaves.
Christian Reeves - another 7'1" freshman. Very talented but only scores 1 point in 3 minutes per game. If both Filipowski and Lively move to the NBA next year, Reeves could move into the spotlight. If Flip and Lively both stay for another year at Duke, would Reeves consider the transfer portal? I would certainly think so.
This brings us to our fourth and most interesting 7-footer (my opinion) and the one most likely to transfer. Stanley Borden is a 7' sophomore walk-on from Istanbul, Turkey. A very cerebral player (will make a great coach someday), Borden has range and ability that appears to be untested according to the limited film available. He moves well, has a sweet hook and mid-range jumper (which makes me believe he could be a threat from behind the arc), plays solid post defense, is a shot-blocking machine, and is a very popular player (quite a character, actually, as demonstrated by his saxophone intro to Duke fans at the beginning of the season - video below).
Because of the transfer portal, Coach By could make huge recruiting advances using Duke as a more-than-fertile recruiting ground. Borden would be a great place to start.
Fast forward to the 3:00 mark....
Borden is a stiff who doesn’t see the floor at Duke.
Byington likes players who can play 3,4,5 positions.
Doesn’t fit what Byington likes or wants. Hard pass.
I disagree. Borden moves well for a big guy. So, you think By will only accept a 7-footer who can play small forward and hopefully shooting guard and point guard? You said Byington likes players who can play 3 to 5 positions, including centers, I guess, which is obviously ridiculous. Dirk Nowitzki was a once-in-a-lifetime player, and he was limited to 3 positions (I guess you could argue that he could play 2-guard, but that would be a real stretch). And, we aren't exactly an elite P5 like Duke that selects rather than recruits. We NEED a big guy and I think Borden looks like a good one.
Just because Borden is on the bench behind four blue-chip, All-American-caliber centers doesn't make him a "stiff." Where do you see a "stiff" in this video?....
(This post was last modified: 02-18-2023 10:15 PM by Purple.)
(02-18-2023 02:21 PM)Purple Wrote: As regular posters here may recall me saying, I believe we have a very good men's basketball team that is is one key position from being an extremely good, maybe even dominant (by Sun Belt standards) basketball team. We lack a true post player who can score down low, kick out for treys, block shots, and cause opposing teams fits in the paint.
As some may also recall, I have voiced my jealousy and perplexion regarding the abundance of riches at Duke University in the 7-footer department.
Duke lists five centers on their roster. Senior Ryan Young is the midget at 6'10" and he is the sixth man, playing 20 minutes per game, mostly as a hybrid 4/5. All of the others are 7'+ underclassmen, as follows:
Kyle Filipowski - 7' freshman starter and the team's best player, averaging 15 points and 9 reebs a game. Can move to the NBA next season if he wants to.
Derek Lively, 7'1" freshman - comes off the bench, 18 minutes per game, 5 points, 5 reebs, quick and mobile, a shot-blocking machine, leads the team in that category by a long shot (pun intended). I believe he also has next-level potential and may be gone after this year or may be next year's star if Filipowski leaves.
Christian Reeves - another 7'1" freshman. Very talented but only scores 1 point in 3 minutes per game. If both Filipowski and Lively move to the NBA next year, Reeves could move into the spotlight. If Flip and Lively both stay for another year at Duke, would Reeves consider the transfer portal? I would certainly think so.
This brings us to our fourth and most interesting 7-footer (my opinion) and the one most likely to transfer. Stanley Borden is a 7' sophomore walk-on from Istanbul, Turkey. A very cerebral player (will make a great coach someday), Borden has range and ability that appears to be untested according to the limited film available. He moves well, has a sweet hook and mid-range jumper (which makes me believe he could be a threat from behind the arc), plays solid post defense, is a shot-blocking machine, and is a very popular player (quite a character, actually, as demonstrated by his saxophone intro to Duke fans at the beginning of the season - video below).
Because of the transfer portal, Coach By could make huge recruiting advances using Duke as a more-than-fertile recruiting ground. Borden would be a great place to start.
Fast forward to the 3:00 mark....
Borden is a stiff who doesn’t see the floor at Duke.
Byington likes players who can play 3,4,5 positions.
Doesn’t fit what Byington likes or wants. Hard pass.
Yeah, I think we just need a Mezzie Offurum that's 2-3 inches taller for a full 4 years. I don't think we need a 7 footer just to say we have a 7 footer. There is a reason the 6'10 kid we have on the roster now doesn't play and a reason why Alex Schultz (I think that was his name) didnt get any playing time in the Lou Rowe era over DeVelle Phillips or Dwight Wilson.
Would we accept a 6’11” Jordan Brown who plays for Louisiana and will be the Sun Belt player of the year?
Of course.
Having 13 scholarship players all being tweeners is unnecessary. There is no reason why Byington couldn’t have at least one big guy on the roster to be a rim protector on defense and a post player on offense. Maybe even 2. Lots o’ roster spots for different skill sets and all 13 guys are not going to be used in each game.
(02-18-2023 10:17 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote: Would we accept a 6’11” Jordan Brown who plays for Louisiana and will be the Sun Belt player of the year?
Of course.
Having 13 scholarship players all being tweeners is unnecessary. There is no reason why Byington couldn’t have at least one big guy on the roster to be a rim protector on defense and a post player on offense. Maybe even 2. Lots o’ roster spots for different skill sets and all 13 guys are not going to be used in each game.
But I guess thats the knock on Byington is his rigidness to getting guys to fit his system instead of making a system to fit the players he gets. Obviously that doesn't mean go back to the drawing board, but making concessions on tempo to be more efficient around the rim on both ends I think would be a plus. But getting someone quick and athletic enough to both make us more efficient on each end without compromising the pace of play that Byington wants would be huge.
(02-18-2023 10:17 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote: Would we accept a 6’11” Jordan Brown who plays for Louisiana and will be the Sun Belt player of the year?
Of course.
Having 13 scholarship players all being tweeners is unnecessary. There is no reason why Byington couldn’t have at least one big guy on the roster to be a rim protector on defense and a post player on offense. Maybe even 2. Lots o’ roster spots for different skill sets and all 13 guys are not going to be used in each game.
Don’t disagree that he can’t do this or won’t do this.
Some folks want to run him out of town because of how he built and coaches this team. Get over it.
Future recruiting cycles (transfers and freshman) could bring us a bigger post player who defends and rebounds. Thinking of an upgrade to Amadi spot who is limited and hasn’t grown.
Mezie and Sule are vets that are very well suited to Byingtons system and difficult to play against. I posted last week that teams that are “taller” or “heavier” often have produced nothing against us. For a variety of reasons.
But the talented bigs aren’t a dime a dozen. Guard/Forwards are and what Byington likes for his system. Not yours (not you specifically) or some Trisha Traditional style or ball from 1987.
He definitely tried stepping outside of what he normally goes for with Mensah and with last year's freshmen, none of them worked out. I'd love to see a 6'10"+ guy as much as anyone else, but I doubt Byington is gonna force it again. I think he'd rather have a 6'8" Julien Wooden and Mezie Offurum, or a 6'7" Alonzo Sule and Justin Amadi than a 7 footer who doesn't fit the playing style.
They play exciting basketball and they're winning, I'm pretty damn happy with what we've got going right now. If the inconsistency from earlier in the year was still there we would've lost more than one of the last eight and I'd be a lot more concerned.
