Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
Author Message
BePcr07 Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,071
Joined: Dec 2015
Reputation: 105
I Root For: Boise St & Zags
Location:
Post: #101
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(07-26-2020 06:58 PM)panite Wrote:  
(07-26-2020 06:39 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-26-2020 06:00 PM)Todor Wrote:  
(07-26-2020 02:00 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-26-2020 01:55 PM)EigenEagle Wrote:  Honestly, this seems like a dick move by La Tech.

First of all the conference is making them cancel this game, and more importantly is La Tech even going to be making any real money off of this game? Were they going to have limited or any crowds for September 19th?

I can't remember the last time anyone pulled this kind of shameless low class move. Ridonculous.

07-coffee3

Oh, I don't know. A deals a deal, and business is business. Not everyone can shrug off half a mil and say "oh well" And I'm sure we will see some more schools looking to collect from others in the coming months.

Suing an HBCU for canceling a game in the middle of a pandemic, as if that doesn't qualify as an "Act of God", is patently ridiculous and shameful.

This is the world we live in. 01-scout 01-gts 01-france

It may or may not qualify as a force majeure event. Depends on how their contract is worded - a contract to which both parties agreed. Often, a force majeure clause requires one of the parties to officially declare a force majeure event has begun and the parties usually have some time period to resolve the matter between them or wait an allotted amount of time then make a decision. Penalties are often excluded from terminating a contract due to a force majeure event. This tells me that either the parties explicitly agreed to such penalties or this does not qualify as a force majeure event (at least not yet) under the contract.

Tacky? Probably. Contractual? Also, probably. I do think this says a lot about where Louisiana Tech’s athletic department is by risking really bad PR by pursuing these damages.
(This post was last modified: 07-27-2020 12:33 AM by BePcr07.)
07-27-2020 12:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
AssyrianDuke Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 2,444
Joined: Mar 2016
Reputation: 51
I Root For: James Madison
Location: Loudoun County, VA
Post: #102
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
From a "force majeure" perspective, most contracts have some sort of language that establishes the cancellation is outside the control of either school. By that logic, it would appear that the cancellation was outside the control of PVAM; namely, that their conference elected to not play football this fall.

That said, it is a poorly worded tweet, and I'm not sure if there are behind the scenes discussions happening to try and figure this mess out as cleanly as possible. A lot of games are up in the air, and while a lot of contracts stipulate "acts of God" it is still not decided whether a pandemic qualifies.
07-27-2020 08:52 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
quo vadis Online
Legend
*

Posts: 34,703
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 977
I Root For: USF/Georgetown
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Post: #103
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
A good article on the various cancellations, and possible fees, involving all Louisiana schools:

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/...6b102.html
07-27-2020 09:07 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
fresnofanatic Offline
Special Teams
*

Posts: 736
Joined: Jul 2009
Reputation: 31
I Root For: fresno state
Location:
Post: #104
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
I think CUSA and Sunbelt need to bury the hatchet and become the first super conference. Cut down on travel for all sports and settle things on the field in a 4-team conference football championship playoff: 3 division winners and one at large. Gets NCAA to approve no inter division requirement if a super conference with three or more divisions and has at least 9 members in each division.

East Div: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, App St, Coastal Carolina, GA State, GA Southern, FIU, FAU

Central Div: WKU, MTSU, UAB, Jacks State, Troy, USA, USM, Little Rock (adds FB), ASU

West Div: ULM, LaTech, ULL, Rice, UTSA, Tx St, UNT, UTA (adds FB), UTEP
(This post was last modified: 07-28-2020 09:07 AM by fresnofanatic.)
07-28-2020 08:59 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Michael in Raleigh Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,801
Joined: Jul 2014
Reputation: 72
I Root For: App State
Location:
Post: #105
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(07-28-2020 08:59 AM)fresnofanatic Wrote:  I think CUSA and Sunbelt need to bury the hatchet and become the first super conference. Cut down on travel for all sports and settle things on the field in a 4-team conference football championship playoff: 3 division winners and one at large. Gets NCAA to approve no inter division requirement if a super conference with three or more divisions and has at least 9 members in each division.

East Div: Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, App St, Coastal Carolina, GA State, GA Southern, FIU, FAU

Central Div: WKU, MTSU, UAB, Jacks State, Troy, USA, USM, Little Rock (adds FB), ASU

West Div: ULM, LaTech, ULL, Rice, UTSA, Tx St, UNT, UTA (adds FB), UTEP

26 teams for 1 automatic NCAA bid? Thanks, but no thanks.
07-28-2020 11:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
CoastalJuan Offline
Business Drunk
*

Posts: 3,859
Joined: Sep 2014
Reputation: 171
I Root For: ECU
Location: Right near da beeech
Post: #106
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(05-28-2020 05:00 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

Louisiana AD after a few beers.

[Image: giphy.gif?cid=ecf05e47zun2gdwhnyzr71mwdi...=giphy.gif]
07-29-2020 07:27 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
quo vadis Online
Legend
*

Posts: 34,703
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 977
I Root For: USF/Georgetown
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Post: #107
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(07-27-2020 08:52 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  From a "force majeure" perspective, most contracts have some sort of language that establishes the cancellation is outside the control of either school. By that logic, it would appear that the cancellation was outside the control of PVAM; namely, that their conference elected to not play football this fall.

That said, it is a poorly worded tweet, and I'm not sure if there are behind the scenes discussions happening to try and figure this mess out as cleanly as possible. A lot of games are up in the air, and while a lot of contracts stipulate "acts of God" it is still not decided whether a pandemic qualifies.

According to the Baton Rouge Advocate, the LT - Prairie View contract has a clause for "Acts of God and Nature".

I would imagine it would be hard for anyone to argue that a pandemic isn't an "Act of God and Nature", unless they believe it was manufactured in a Chinese laboratory.

07-coffee3
(This post was last modified: 07-29-2020 08:42 AM by quo vadis.)
07-29-2020 08:38 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
HellBlazer Offline
All American
*

Posts: 2,865
Joined: Nov 2003
Reputation: 47
I Root For: UAB!
Location: COOSA RIVER
Post: #108
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
Economics is going to start making a big difference. Having a wife work at a D-1 College is eye opening. some schools are borrowing money already to make payroll.....It is worse than they are reporting.
07-30-2020 08:13 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
quo vadis Online
Legend
*

Posts: 34,703
Joined: Aug 2008
Reputation: 977
I Root For: USF/Georgetown
Location: Baton Rouge, LA
Post: #109
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(07-30-2020 08:13 AM)HellBlazer Wrote:  Economics is going to start making a big difference. Having a wife work at a D-1 College is eye opening. some schools are borrowing money already to make payroll.....It is worse than they are reporting.

What is strange is how non-uniform the impact has been. E.g., we've seen some major schools like Arizona and Michigan announce hundreds-of-millions in losses, and we're all familiar with Akron's situation.

On the other hand, down here in Louisiana, which has always had one of the most poverty-funded university systems, with most schools other than LSU scraping by hand to mouth even during good times, there have been no such announcements - and believe me, when these schools feel a pinch they squawk. The state just used a bunch of Federal relief money to plug holes in the state budget and everything seems fine for this fiscal year, though dire warnings have been sounded about 2021-2022. But that's a year from now.

It's a very uneven situation with some schools being immediately hammered and others not.
(This post was last modified: 07-30-2020 08:32 AM by quo vadis.)
07-30-2020 08:31 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
balanced_view Offline
1st String
*

Posts: 1,083
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 32
I Root For: Louisiana
Location:
Post: #110
RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(07-30-2020 08:31 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(07-30-2020 08:13 AM)HellBlazer Wrote:  Economics is going to start making a big difference. Having a wife work at a D-1 College is eye opening. some schools are borrowing money already to make payroll.....It is worse than they are reporting.

What is strange is how non-uniform the impact has been. E.g., we've seen some major schools like Arizona and Michigan announce hundreds-of-millions in losses, and we're all familiar with Akron's situation.

On the other hand, down here in Louisiana, which has always had one of the most poverty-funded university systems, with most schools other than LSU scraping by hand to mouth even during good times, there have been no such announcements - and believe me, when these schools feel a pinch they squawk. The state just used a bunch of Federal relief money to plug holes in the state budget and everything seems fine for this fiscal year, though dire warnings have been sounded about 2021-2022. But that's a year from now.

It's a very uneven situation with some schools being immediately hammered and others not.

At the moment of this response, im not sure any state of Louisiana schools have lost much towards this upcoming year. last i heard, everyone was close to full enrollment levels, which would be an increase from years past. also, football seasons have not been lost yet. so while everyone knows big losses are coming, seems like nothing worth screaming about just yet, because everyone else is in the same boat and its expected to come at some point.
07-30-2020 10:25 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2020 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2020 MyBB Group.