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(05-30-2020 07:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an assessment of CUSA and Sun Belt football over the past 3-4 years that involves a bit less cherry-picking:

CUSA
2017-2019: 252 W, 280 L (0.474); Avg Sagarin = 56.88
2016-2019: 329 W, 368 L (0.472); Avg Sagarin = 57.03

Sun Belt
2017-2019: 196 W, 204 L (0.490); Avg Sagarin = 58.37
2016-2019: 262 W, 276 L (0.487); Avg Saragin = 58.56

So if one considers 3-4 seasons an adequate sample size, the Sun Belt is the slightly taller midget in football strength.

No that just means that the teams at the very bottom of C-USA have lost a whole lot of games. The simple truth is C-USA has consistently produced more winning programs, and the numbers prove that.

Once you factor in C-USA's better basketball and higher athletic budgets, it isn't even close.
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RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(05-30-2020 07:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an assessment of CUSA and Sun Belt football over the past 3-4 years that involves a bit less cherry-picking:

CUSA
2017-2019: 252 W, 280 L (0.474); Avg Sagarin = 56.88
2016-2019: 329 W, 368 L (0.472); Avg Sagarin = 57.03

Sun Belt
2017-2019: 196 W, 204 L (0.490); Avg Sagarin = 58.37
2016-2019: 262 W, 276 L (0.487); Avg Saragin = 58.56

So if one considers 3-4 seasons an adequate sample size, the Sun Belt is the slightly taller midget in football strength.

No that just means that the teams at the very bottom of C-USA have lost a whole lot of games. The simple truth is C-USA has consistently produced more winning programs, and the numbers prove that.

Once you factor in C-USA's better basketball and higher athletic budgets, it isn't even close.
So, those ‘teams at the very bottom of C-USA’ are somehow, someway, not really in the coosa conference? lol
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CUSA isn't really better on the court in basketball that the Sun Belt

RPI:

19/20: SBC 14th - CUSA 17th - http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

18/19: SBC 17th - CUSA 13th - http://realtimerpi.com/2018-2019/rpi_conf_Men.html

17/18: SBC 18th - CUSA 15th - http://realtimerpi.com/2017-2018/rpi_conf_Men.html

16/17: SBC 13th - CUSA 23rd - http://realtimerpi.com/2016-2017/rpi_conf_Men.html

15/16: SBC 17th - CUSA 22nd - http://realtimerpi.com/2015-2016/rpi_conf_Men.html
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(05-30-2020 08:08 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an assessment of CUSA and Sun Belt football over the past 3-4 years that involves a bit less cherry-picking:

CUSA
2017-2019: 252 W, 280 L (0.474); Avg Sagarin = 56.88
2016-2019: 329 W, 368 L (0.472); Avg Sagarin = 57.03

Sun Belt
2017-2019: 196 W, 204 L (0.490); Avg Sagarin = 58.37
2016-2019: 262 W, 276 L (0.487); Avg Saragin = 58.56

So if one considers 3-4 seasons an adequate sample size, the Sun Belt is the slightly taller midget in football strength.

No that just means that the teams at the very bottom of C-USA have lost a whole lot of games. The simple truth is C-USA has consistently produced more winning programs, and the numbers prove that.

Once you factor in C-USA's better basketball and higher athletic budgets, it isn't even close.
So, those ‘teams at the very bottom of C-USA’ are somehow, someway, not really in the coosa conference? lol

No they are part of C-USA. They just have really big losing records over the past few seasons. My point is that the majority of Sun Belt programs have losing records over the past 3 or 4 seasons. 60% of the Sun Belt has failed to post overall winning records over the Past 3 or 4 seasons.

The majority of C-USA programs have posted overall winning records for the past 3 or 4 seasons.

You can have a different standard for conference strength if you choose, but I will always prefer the conference where the majority are winning programs over a conference where the majority are losing programs.
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(05-30-2020 08:38 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:08 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an assessment of CUSA and Sun Belt football over the past 3-4 years that involves a bit less cherry-picking:

CUSA
2017-2019: 252 W, 280 L (0.474); Avg Sagarin = 56.88
2016-2019: 329 W, 368 L (0.472); Avg Sagarin = 57.03

Sun Belt
2017-2019: 196 W, 204 L (0.490); Avg Sagarin = 58.37
2016-2019: 262 W, 276 L (0.487); Avg Saragin = 58.56

So if one considers 3-4 seasons an adequate sample size, the Sun Belt is the slightly taller midget in football strength.

No that just means that the teams at the very bottom of C-USA have lost a whole lot of games. The simple truth is C-USA has consistently produced more winning programs, and the numbers prove that.

Once you factor in C-USA's better basketball and higher athletic budgets, it isn't even close.
So, those ‘teams at the very bottom of C-USA’ are somehow, someway, not really in the coosa conference? lol

No they are part of C-USA. They just have really big losing records over the past few seasons. My point is that the majority of Sun Belt programs have losing records over the past 3 or 4 seasons. 60% of the Sun Belt has failed to post overall winning records over the Past 3 or 4 seasons.

The majority of C-USA programs have posted overall winning records for the past 3 or 4 seasons.

You can have a different standard for conference strength if you choose, but I will always prefer the conference where the majority are winning programs over a conference where the majority are losing programs.
No, your point was that we should disregard a chunk of the conference, because they don’t fit your narrative. Period.
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(05-30-2020 08:11 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  CUSA isn't really better on the court in basketball that the Sun Belt

RPI:

19/20: SBC 14th - CUSA 17th - http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

18/19: SBC 17th - CUSA 13th - http://realtimerpi.com/2018-2019/rpi_conf_Men.html

17/18: SBC 18th - CUSA 15th - http://realtimerpi.com/2017-2018/rpi_conf_Men.html

16/17: SBC 13th - CUSA 23rd - http://realtimerpi.com/2016-2017/rpi_conf_Men.html

15/16: SBC 17th - CUSA 22nd - http://realtimerpi.com/2015-2016/rpi_conf_Men.html

I know this odd basketball season was cut short, but there is still good information that indicates the strength of our conferences. North Texas was the regular season C-USA Champ, while Little Rock was the regular season Sun Belt Champ. We actually played each other this season, and the results were telling. North Texas stomped a mud hole in Little Rock beating them by 23 points (76-53). It was the Sun Belt Champs worst beating of the season. Regardless of what those rpi computer models say, I know for a fact the battles we had with WKU, and LA Tech were far tougher than the beatings we put on Little Rock and UT-A. I really don't think anyone believes that Sun Belt basketball is as good as C-USA basketball.
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(05-30-2020 08:43 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:38 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:08 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an assessment of CUSA and Sun Belt football over the past 3-4 years that involves a bit less cherry-picking:

CUSA
2017-2019: 252 W, 280 L (0.474); Avg Sagarin = 56.88
2016-2019: 329 W, 368 L (0.472); Avg Sagarin = 57.03

Sun Belt
2017-2019: 196 W, 204 L (0.490); Avg Sagarin = 58.37
2016-2019: 262 W, 276 L (0.487); Avg Saragin = 58.56

So if one considers 3-4 seasons an adequate sample size, the Sun Belt is the slightly taller midget in football strength.

No that just means that the teams at the very bottom of C-USA have lost a whole lot of games. The simple truth is C-USA has consistently produced more winning programs, and the numbers prove that.

Once you factor in C-USA's better basketball and higher athletic budgets, it isn't even close.
So, those ‘teams at the very bottom of C-USA’ are somehow, someway, not really in the coosa conference? lol

No they are part of C-USA. They just have really big losing records over the past few seasons. My point is that the majority of Sun Belt programs have losing records over the past 3 or 4 seasons. 60% of the Sun Belt has failed to post overall winning records over the Past 3 or 4 seasons.

The majority of C-USA programs have posted overall winning records for the past 3 or 4 seasons.

You can have a different standard for conference strength if you choose, but I will always prefer the conference where the majority are winning programs over a conference where the majority are losing programs.
No, your point was that we should disregard a chunk of the conference, because they don’t fit your narrative. Period.

The the point was always that C-USA has more winning programs and the Sun Belt has too many losing programs. That isn't a personal narrative, just the actual facts.
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(05-30-2020 08:08 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:31 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Here's an assessment of CUSA and Sun Belt football over the past 3-4 years that involves a bit less cherry-picking:

CUSA
2017-2019: 252 W, 280 L (0.474); Avg Sagarin = 56.88
2016-2019: 329 W, 368 L (0.472); Avg Sagarin = 57.03

Sun Belt
2017-2019: 196 W, 204 L (0.490); Avg Sagarin = 58.37
2016-2019: 262 W, 276 L (0.487); Avg Saragin = 58.56

So if one considers 3-4 seasons an adequate sample size, the Sun Belt is the slightly taller midget in football strength.

No that just means that the teams at the very bottom of C-USA have lost a whole lot of games. The simple truth is C-USA has consistently produced more winning programs, and the numbers prove that.

Once you factor in C-USA's better basketball and higher athletic budgets, it isn't even close.
So, those ‘teams at the very bottom of C-USA’ are somehow, someway, not really in the coosa conference? lol


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(05-30-2020 09:01 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:11 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  CUSA isn't really better on the court in basketball that the Sun Belt

RPI:

19/20: SBC 14th - CUSA 17th - http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html

18/19: SBC 17th - CUSA 13th - http://realtimerpi.com/2018-2019/rpi_conf_Men.html

17/18: SBC 18th - CUSA 15th - http://realtimerpi.com/2017-2018/rpi_conf_Men.html

16/17: SBC 13th - CUSA 23rd - http://realtimerpi.com/2016-2017/rpi_conf_Men.html

15/16: SBC 17th - CUSA 22nd - http://realtimerpi.com/2015-2016/rpi_conf_Men.html

I know this odd basketball season was cut short, but there is still good information that indicates the strength of our conferences. North Texas was the regular season C-USA Champ, while Little Rock was the regular season Sun Belt Champ. We actually played each other this season, and the results were telling. North Texas stomped a mud hole in Little Rock beating them by 23 points (76-53). It was the Sun Belt Champs worst beating of the season. Regardless of what those rpi computer models say, I know for a fact the battles we had with WKU, and LA Tech were far tougher than the beatings we put on Little Rock and UT-A. I really don't think anyone believes that Sun Belt basketball is as good as C-USA basketball.

One game isn’t a good sample size. Kentucky lost to Evansville this year (prior to their coach’s departure) and I don’t think many are using that game to claim the Missouri Valley is better than the SEC. Likewise #16 seed UMBC beat #1 Virginia in the NCAA Tournament by 20 points a couple years ago and I don’t think anyone is claiming the America East Conference is better than the ACC.
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(05-30-2020 09:04 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:43 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:38 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:08 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 07:46 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  No that just means that the teams at the very bottom of C-USA have lost a whole lot of games. The simple truth is C-USA has consistently produced more winning programs, and the numbers prove that.

Once you factor in C-USA's better basketball and higher athletic budgets, it isn't even close.
So, those ‘teams at the very bottom of C-USA’ are somehow, someway, not really in the coosa conference? lol

No they are part of C-USA. They just have really big losing records over the past few seasons. My point is that the majority of Sun Belt programs have losing records over the past 3 or 4 seasons. 60% of the Sun Belt has failed to post overall winning records over the Past 3 or 4 seasons.

The majority of C-USA programs have posted overall winning records for the past 3 or 4 seasons.

You can have a different standard for conference strength if you choose, but I will always prefer the conference where the majority are winning programs over a conference where the majority are losing programs.
No, your point was that we should disregard a chunk of the conference, because they don’t fit your narrative. Period.

The the point was always that C-USA has more winning programs and the Sun Belt has too many losing programs. That isn't a personal narrative, just the actual facts.

OK, if the percentage of football programs in a conference that have winning records over a certain period of time is your measurement of choice, why should we stop at 3 or 4 years? Sure, it's convenient to stop at 4 given UNT's 1-11 season 5 years ago, but to get a better sample size, how about we go back 6 years, to when the last Sun Belt school (WKU) defected to CUSA?

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Interesting breakdown, no? So if you're just counting winning vs. losing programs (I should note that UNT is among the latter), CUSA has 6 vs. 8 (6/14 = 43%), while the Sun Belt has 5 vs. 7 (5/12 = 42%). Thus, the tiniest of edges to CUSA, right? But not all the schools spent the same amount of time in each conference, so it would make sense to weight them by number of years in the conference. CUSA's winning programs over this time have a combined 34 years vs. 47 for their losing programs (34/81 = 42%), while the Sun Belt's winning programs have a combined 30 years vs. 35 for their losing programs (30/65 = 46%). So slight edge to the Sun Belt, by your own measurement. Oops.

For me, all this goes to show is that both conferences have been comparably mediocre in football on the whole in recent years.
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Rice football on TV for body bag games vs App getting picked up by national tv during the 12 day periods mid season decisions are made. Huge difference.

Again counting Stadium as a nationally televised game is a ridiculous statement.
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(05-31-2020 07:42 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Rice football on TV for body bag games vs App getting picked up by national tv during the 12 day periods mid season decisions are made. Huge difference.

Again counting Stadium as a nationally televised game is a ridiculous statement.

Rice didn’t have a bodybag game. Of the 4 OOC games someone posted about, 1 was @Army and 3 were officially home games vs P5 schools.
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(05-31-2020 07:42 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Rice football on TV for body bag games vs App getting picked up by national tv during the 12 day periods mid season decisions are made. Huge difference.

Again counting Stadium as a nationally televised game is a ridiculous statement.

Rice didn’t have a bodybag game. Of the 4 OOC games someone posted about, 1 was @Army and 3 were officially home games vs P5 schools.

LSU is also a Rice home game. Rice and Houston is an even deal. And Rice damn near beat Baylor. We’re trending in the right direction again now.
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(05-28-2020 05:24 PM)ken d Wrote:  Now that's what I call smack talk! Not only does he call them "Lafayette" instead of "Louisiana", but he also implies that they should want to "move up" to CUSA.

I can't wait to hear the Louisiana AD's response. I doubt any school in the Sunbelt considers the current version of CUSA to be a step up.

Most of us refer to those schools as "La Laf" and La Mon"

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(05-30-2020 10:48 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 09:04 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:43 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:38 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  
(05-30-2020 08:08 PM)FrankyP Wrote:  So, those ‘teams at the very bottom of C-USA’ are somehow, someway, not really in the coosa conference? lol

No they are part of C-USA. They just have really big losing records over the past few seasons. My point is that the majority of Sun Belt programs have losing records over the past 3 or 4 seasons. 60% of the Sun Belt has failed to post overall winning records over the Past 3 or 4 seasons.

The majority of C-USA programs have posted overall winning records for the past 3 or 4 seasons.

You can have a different standard for conference strength if you choose, but I will always prefer the conference where the majority are winning programs over a conference where the majority are losing programs.
No, your point was that we should disregard a chunk of the conference, because they don’t fit your narrative. Period.

The the point was always that C-USA has more winning programs and the Sun Belt has too many losing programs. That isn't a personal narrative, just the actual facts.

OK, if the percentage of football programs in a conference that have winning records over a certain period of time is your measurement of choice, why should we stop at 3 or 4 years? Sure, it's convenient to stop at 4 given UNT's 1-11 season 5 years ago, but to get a better sample size, how about we go back 6 years, to when the last Sun Belt school (WKU) defected to CUSA?

[Image: oDyqeOe.png]

Interesting breakdown, no? So if you're just counting winning vs. losing programs (I should note that UNT is among the latter), CUSA has 6 vs. 8 (6/14 = 43%), while the Sun Belt has 5 vs. 7 (5/12 = 42%). Thus, the tiniest of edges to CUSA, right? But not all the schools spent the same amount of time in each conference, so it would make sense to weight them by number of years in the conference. CUSA's winning programs over this time have a combined 34 years vs. 47 for their losing programs (34/81 = 42%), while the Sun Belt's winning programs have a combined 30 years vs. 35 for their losing programs (30/65 = 46%). So slight edge to the Sun Belt, by your own measurement. Oops.

For me, all this goes to show is that both conferences have been comparably mediocre in football on the whole in recent years.

When you look at the entire history of our conferences since the last round of realignment, you end up with historical data. That is not a good measure for understanding the current strength of each conference. We need to keep the data recent. The team records of the 3 or 4 most recent seasons are a much more reliable standard for understanding the current strength of each conference. For example, from 1965 to 1986 Oregon only produced 4 winning seasons, and that has zero impact on Oregon's current strength, or in the greater scheme, the overall strength/weakness of the PAC.
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(05-31-2020 07:42 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Rice football on TV for body bag games vs App getting picked up by national tv during the 12 day periods mid season decisions are made. Huge difference.

Again counting Stadium as a nationally televised game is a ridiculous statement.

Rice didn’t have a bodybag game. Of the 4 OOC games someone posted about, 1 was @Army and 3 were officially home games vs P5 schools.

It’s Rice football, every game is a body bag game.
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(05-31-2020 10:33 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 09:54 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 07:42 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Rice football on TV for body bag games vs App getting picked up by national tv during the 12 day periods mid season decisions are made. Huge difference.

Again counting Stadium as a nationally televised game is a ridiculous statement.

Rice didn’t have a bodybag game. Of the 4 OOC games someone posted about, 1 was @Army and 3 were officially home games vs P5 schools.

LSU is also a Rice home game. Rice and Houston is an even deal. And Rice damn near beat Baylor. We’re trending in the right direction again now.

Rice has been mentioned a few times on the AAC board as a possible expansion school, due to your history in the SWC, AAU status, etc. Tulane would be an excellent rivalry, as would SMU and Houston.

It would be interesting for you to come over to the AAC message board some time to make your case. You will get some support.

Right now, the AAC as a conference is just sitting tight, and doesn't seem inclined to invite any schools, but that may well change if one or two schools emerge from the pack over the next 2-3 seasons.

Of all the non-MWC schools, Rice probably has the strongest long-term FB legacy, and the strongest national "brand" in academics and FB history due to SWC membership. Also helps to be in a big city and in fairly close proximity to 4 AAC schools, including Tulsa.
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(05-31-2020 09:27 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 10:33 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 09:54 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 07:42 AM)Saint3333 Wrote:  Rice football on TV for body bag games vs App getting picked up by national tv during the 12 day periods mid season decisions are made. Huge difference.

Again counting Stadium as a nationally televised game is a ridiculous statement.

Rice didn’t have a bodybag game. Of the 4 OOC games someone posted about, 1 was @Army and 3 were officially home games vs P5 schools.

LSU is also a Rice home game. Rice and Houston is an even deal. And Rice damn near beat Baylor. We’re trending in the right direction again now.

Rice has been mentioned a few times on the AAC board as a possible expansion school, due to your history in the SWC, AAU status, etc. Tulane would be an excellent rivalry, as would SMU and Houston.

It would be interesting for you to come over to the AAC message board some time to make your case. You will get some support.

Right now, the AAC as a conference is just sitting tight, and doesn't seem inclined to invite any schools, but that may well change if one or two schools emerge from the pack over the next 2-3 seasons.

Of all the non-MWC schools, Rice probably has the strongest long-term FB legacy, and the strongest national "brand" in academics and FB history due to SWC membership. Also helps to be in a big city and in fairly close proximity to 4 AAC schools, including Tulsa.

I'm kind of undecided beyond I think App State for FB-only is the top choice. Clearly their football program is solid and has a good fan following as well as interest from TV viewers.

After that, Rice is a top candidate for me. I think Rice could seal the deal if their administration would engage boosters and ramp up investment in the program like SMU has done. I'm sure Rice can raise money to do that. If we saw Rice re-doing Rice Stadium to reduce size and upgrade amenities, and if we saw them investing in a solid basketball coach...that would do a lot to help their AAC membership imo.
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RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
Why has La Tech historically gone there own way? Like being in the WAC for so long... Is it their history, location, base? They definitely seem to view themselves differently than other seemingly similar institutions. Any insights?
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