bill dazzle
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RE: Louisiana Tech AD has a message for you realignmentologists
(05-30-2020 12:53 PM)johnbragg Wrote: (05-30-2020 11:56 AM)EigenEagle Wrote: (05-30-2020 11:26 AM)ESE84 Wrote: (05-30-2020 07:09 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: CUSA fans clinging to the old days when they were the better conference. Those days are over.
Basketball - only thing that matters are tournament credits, Both are a one bid league.
Football - SBC higher ranked conference and therefore more CFB revenue three of the last four years. Better TV contract, App had 8 nationally televised games last year, you’d have to add 3-4 CUSA teams to reach that numbers.
Baseball - SBC has always been better
Your televised football games claim is without merit. I believe you get to 8 with the championship game and bowl game. That means 6 regular season games? Rice had 5 nationally televised games in 2019 consisting of Army, Baylor, Texas, Wake Forest and North Texas. Our champions, Florida Atlantic, played Ohio State, UCF, Charlotte, Marshall, Southern Miss, UAB, and SMU on national television. That’s 7 for FAU and 5 for Rice.
The hyperbolic baseball claim is equally ridiculous, but I don’t want to take the time to look up the facts. Congratulations on adding Coastal Carolina, though. Solid baseball program.
Well, we're picking up Saturday ESPN while you play on CBSNBC Sports or whatever it's called that no one watches.
Now I'm mildly interested. Let's see what wikipedia has to say
14 Sun Belt home games televised on ESPN / 2/ U, counting the CCG.
(Appalachian State was on ESPN twice (CCG), ESPN-2 twice (@SC) and ESPN-U 3 times).
CUSA? 13 games on CBS-SN, 9 games on NFL Network, 14 games on Stadium. (Some number of the CBS-SN and Stadium games were also on Facebook, if anyone cares.) That's 22 nationally televised games, plus whatever you consider Stadium.
So CUSA has more nationally televised games, but the Sun Belt games are on ESPN networks.
For the question at hand, CUSA vs Sun Belt, 4 of Rice's 5 national TV appearances were non-conference. Wake Forest and Baylor and Texas and Army are playing Rice because it's Rice (SWC pedigree, academic halo), not because they're CUSA over Sun Belt.
CUSA's big talking point over the Sun Belt at this point is that CUSA has some programs with some pedigree (Rice, UTEP, Southern Miss, Marshall), while Sun Belt has a bunch of former FCS national champions (App State, Georgia Southern, ULM) What does that get you in 2020?
I'm almost 60 and work in the media (for a publication covering sports, business and politics). I talk to lots of folks who are very knowledgeable about college athletics and academia in general — people who do not have an agenda and who not trash talk like some on this board. And if I were to poll, say, 100 of these type people with this question: Which is the more prestigious conference based on a combination of football, men's basketball, baseball, all other sports, academic budgets, athletic department budgets, endowments, academic credibility and attractiveness of campus locations? ... all 100 would say C-USA.
So to answer your question: What does that get you in 2020? Nothing. Other than C-USA has a much better image than the Belt with most folks who know this stuff and who don't post on message boards. And I type that having noted previously on this board that I hugely respect what the Sun Belt has done in reinventing itself and in, particularly, in making strong progress in football.
I'm an MTSU graduate and would be the first to admit I might be a bit biased. True, C-USA has its flaws. But these people I talk to know their stuff and they shoot straight. They overwhelmingly place C-USA over the Sun Belt.
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