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(05-31-2020 08:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 08:25 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 07:55 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
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(05-31-2020 08:51 AM)Stammers Wrote:  I have no clue wtf you are talking about. Are you really seriously comparing MLB teams who play a 162 game regular season with college football teams that play 12? IF football teams could play 4 games in 8 days like basketball, I would be all for it; the more the merrier. You haven't addressed a single point I made; just a rant about underdogs. I'll shorten it a bit to make it easier for you.

- Do you eliminate every CCG?
- IF the #4 seed loses by an average of 23 points, how do you think a team 50 spots lower than them will fare?
- How do you justify having a 16 team tournament where the #9,10,11,12,14,15,16 are not even involved?

We haven't even talked about ratings. Which games do you think would do better ratings? This is what would happen by eliminating each CCG and going to 16 teams versus the current format and 8 teams.

16 TEAM PLAYOFF
1 LSU - UR Miami, OH
2 Ohio State - UR FAU
3 Clemson - 24 Virginia (rematch of ACC CCG, Clemson won by 44 points)
4 Oklahoma - 20 Appalachian State
5 Georgia - 19 Boise State
6 Oregon - 17 Memphis (GREAT matchup for us!)
7 Baylor - 15 Notre Dame (assume ND joins a league or else ineligible)
8 Wisconsin - 11 Utah

OR
CCG SCHEDULE + 8 TEAM PLAYOFF
5 Utah - 13 Oregon
1 Ohio State - 8 Wisconsin
4 Georgia - 2 LSU
23 Virginia - 3 Clemson
7 Baylor - 6 Oklahoma
20 Cincinnati - 17 Memphis
UR Hawaii - 21 Boise
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1 LSU - 17 Memphis
2 Ohio State - 7 Baylor
3 Clemson - 6 Oregon
4 Oklahoma - 5 Georgia

AGAIN, every #1 versus #4 has been a blowout and 3 out of the 6 #2 versus #3 have had a margin of victory of at least 27 (TWENTY SEVEN) points. 9 out of the 12 games involving the top 4 haven't been competitive. You want to make more of them exponentially less competitive?

None of what you are saying makes any sense.

Every sport seems to be adding teams to their playoffs. Usually every year the "No Fair Leagues" NFC/AFC championship games are blowouts . Do you think the NFL should reduce the number of playoff teams ?

My only concern with your position is, you want to cut out the little guys--the MEMPHIS/UCF /BOISE types----who cares about the blowouts ---heck just lay the points. You seem to imply that the so-called power 5 are the only one worthy of the chance for the national championship. Give the little guys a shot----regardless of the odds. Have you personally ever bought a lottery ticket----what were those odds for you----if you have bought that ticket---why do you think you should have a shot at glory but not UCF 2 years ago ?----Hickory vs I don't remember LOL wants to hear from you.

How can you complain about number of playoff teams --when division 2 football has 30 ? playoff teams---do you think the fans of those teams care that some scores could be lopsided ?

I have enjoyed your posts over the years Stammers---and many times have backed you up---but in this we will have to agree to disagree---go MEMPHIS TIGERS----and hey LIL OLE MEMPHIS-- I sure hope one day that you get the CHANCE to cover that 40 point spread in the opening round of the NATIONAL CFB playoffs against one of them big power 5 deserving teams.

I keep trying to scale it down for you. I really want you to understand so I'll keep trying. Cheerleading aside, you haven't addressed anything that I've talked about.

- HUGE revenue stream from the networks to the conferences for their CCG
- Logistics
- Additional Injuries
- Players opting out of a 4 game playoff

Please try and answer these 3 at least.

- Do you eliminate every CCG?
- IF the #4 seed loses by an average of 23 points, how do you think a team 50 spots lower than them will fare?
- How do you justify having a 16 team tournament where the #9,10,11,12,14,16 are not even involved?

I forgot two very important points...

YOUR COACH LEAVES
That means that you have to have your interim coach and whatever staff you can cobble together, coach a playoff game on one week's notice. As it applies to Memphis, Norvell leaves with the DC and other staff right after the last regular season game, and then you have a week to prepare for a playoff game with a skeleton staff and possibly with players opting out.

HOW MANY CINDERELLAS CAN YOU HAVE?
The #4 team has historically had virtually no chance. If that is the case you can argue that 3/4 of the field has no shot at reaching the final. How do you justify that?

My justification is ---They do have a shot---just like you do with your lottery ticket--it may not be a great shot-but a shot non the less -- all UCF wanted was a fightin chance.

Does not division 2 play the same amount of regular season games---and then a 30 team or there about playoff ? ....and again, I contend-- if it is the actual NATIONAL playoffs---opposed to boring bowl games---that most if not all players would play.....but hey maybe Sabin would say "hey--that Stammers guy says LIL OLE MEMPHIS/UCF shouldn't even be here"----so maybe he rests his ENTIRE team against us and I cover that 40--- when they only win by 30 LOL

With 8 teams UCF gets their shot, so neither I, and more importantly you have a clue what you are talking about. Second, for the 4TH TIME, would you cancel every single CCG?

I don't have the power or authorization . I'm still trying to spell Sabine correctly !
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I think the bouncer just done threw you out
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(05-31-2020 08:25 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Oh yea---to answer your 3 questions---A) don't care---- B) I don't care how many points the LIL OLE MEMPHIS TIGERS beat Ohio St by---the more the better---C- D) If LIL OLE MEMPHIS TIGERS had a chance every year to win the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP---I don't think we would still be losing coaches----if the AAC had a guaranteed ticket every year to the FB dance----we would have a better chance than 95% of all so-called power teams to make it. Hell we might even have people lobbying to come coach here. If the AAC gets a ticket---ITS A GAME CHANGER for the LIL OLE MEMPHIS TIGERS !

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(05-31-2020 09:08 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  I think the bouncer just done threw you out

Stammers is a bouncer ?
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Some comments from the peanut gallery....

Stammers, I agree with some of what you say, but one thing you keep hanging on to is the 23 point margin of victory average for the 1 vs 4 game. Remember, from the CCG weekend to the playoff game is almost a month. I propose that part of that margin is due to the time the teams have to rest, study, and prepare for that game. Aren't teams allowed 14-15 days for workouts in that time frame? What would the effect be if the first playoff game was two weeks after CCGs? If we are playing a "what-if" game for a 16-team playoff, why not set it up that soon after the CCG and then let them be like the NFL playoffs with winners playing the next week? May have to work around Christmas, but that's for the TV folks to figure out since they are driving this whole show anyway ($$$$).

But yeah, take the 10 CCG winners and add the next six runners-up, rank them 1-16, and turn it loose. You never know, 1 may curbstomp 16, but have a devastating injury - I don't wish that on anyone, but it can happen any time they tee it up. How do they fare as the competition gets better? It ends up being like any other "tournament" - the team that has some luck and gets on a roll might just have a chance. And that's all teams can ask for - a chance.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth. You guys carry on....
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(05-31-2020 08:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 08:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  [quote='jsw3ent' pid='16841638' dateline='1590974725']
[quote='Stammers' pid='16841618' dateline='1590972934']
[quote='jsw3ent' pid='16841606' dateline='1590972163']

HOW MANY CINDERELLAS CAN YOU HAVE?
The #4 team has historically had virtually no chance. If that is the case you can argue that 3/4 of the field has no shot at reaching the final. How do you justify that?

#4 Ohio State won it all in 2015.
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(06-01-2020 11:16 AM)former guest Wrote:  Some comments from the peanut gallery....

Stammers, I agree with some of what you say, but one thing you keep hanging on to is the 23 point margin of victory average for the 1 vs 4 game. Remember, from the CCG weekend to the playoff game is almost a month. I propose that part of that margin is due to the time the teams have to rest, study, and prepare for that game. Aren't teams allowed 14-15 days for workouts in that time frame? What would the effect be if the first playoff game was two weeks after CCGs? If we are playing a "what-if" game for a 16-team playoff, why not set it up that soon after the CCG and then let them be like the NFL playoffs with winners playing the next week? May have to work around Christmas, but that's for the TV folks to figure out since they are driving this whole show anyway ($$$$).

But yeah, take the 10 CCG winners and add the next six runners-up, rank them 1-16, and turn it loose. You never know, 1 may curbstomp 16, but have a devastating injury - I don't wish that on anyone, but it can happen any time they tee it up. How do they fare as the competition gets better? It ends up being like any other "tournament" - the team that has some luck and gets on a roll might just have a chance. And that's all teams can ask for - a chance.

Anyway, my 2 cents worth. You guys carry on....

True enough, no doubt that it comes into play. You also have to factor in that some teams have their bye week in the first 2 weeks. That would mean that you could theoretically have college kids playing games 15 weeks in a row. I don't think it is reasonable to make a national title come down to a war of attrition; and it would probably end up being that regardless of who wins.
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(06-01-2020 11:29 AM)CKMcDan Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 08:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-31-2020 08:37 PM)Stammers Wrote:  [quote='jsw3ent' pid='16841638' dateline='1590974725']
[quote='Stammers' pid='16841618' dateline='1590972934']
[quote='jsw3ent' pid='16841606' dateline='1590972163']

HOW MANY CINDERELLAS CAN YOU HAVE?
The #4 team has historically had virtually no chance. If that is the case you can argue that 3/4 of the field has no shot at reaching the final. How do you justify that?

#4 Ohio State won it all in 2015.

Great point and good catch. Alabama also won in 2017 as the #4 seed; so that part of my argument is demolished.

National Champions By Seed:
#1 - 1
#2 - 3
#3 - 0
#4 - 2
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If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.
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(06-01-2020 04:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.

But there would likely be 6 at-large bids in a 16-team scenario, if we are talking 10 conference champs auto qualifying. If Michigan is top 8, they are more than likely going to make it in.
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(06-01-2020 04:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.

If it is by ranked teams --then that puts the human bias in play once again. If it is a ranking--then it needs to be some type of formula computer type thing.... and screw Michigan---they should have beat Ohio St.----they had their chance. Every conference champ needs to get in
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(06-01-2020 08:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 04:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.

If it is by ranked teams --then that puts the human bias in play once again. If it is a ranking--then it needs to be some type of formula computer type thing.... and screw Michigan---they should have beat Ohio St.----they had their chance. Every conference champ needs to get in

So using your very scientific, very stat centric, I hate Memphis/Joe Namath won a Super Bowl 51 years ago system for seeding, this who the 16 participants would have been last year.

$EC: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn
Big Ten: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State
Big 12: Oklahoma, Baylor
ACC: Clemson
PAC12: Utah
AAC: Memphis
MWC: Boise
Sun Belt: Appalachian State
CUSA: FAU
Mid American: Miami, OH

IF you think in a million years, that anyone; literally anyone would agree to a 16 team playoff system where the AAC, MWC, CUSA, Mid American, and Sun Belt conferences have the same number of teams as the ACC and PAC12...

You honestly can't be helped.
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(06-01-2020 10:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 08:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 04:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.

If it is by ranked teams --then that puts the human bias in play once again. If it is a ranking--then it needs to be some type of formula computer type thing.... and screw Michigan---they should have beat Ohio St.----they had their chance. Every conference champ needs to get in

So using your very scientific, very stat centric, I hate Memphis/Joe Namath won a Super Bowl 51 years ago system for seeding, this who the 16 participants would have been last year.

$EC: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn
Big Ten: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State
Big 12: Oklahoma, Baylor
ACC: Clemson
PAC12: Utah
AAC: Memphis
MWC: Boise
Sun Belt: Appalachian State
CUSA: FAU
Mid American: Miami, OH

IF you think in a million years, that anyone; literally anyone would agree to a 16 team playoff system where the AAC, MWC, CUSA, Mid American, and Sun Belt conferences have the same number of teams as the ACC and PAC12...

You honestly can't be helped.

You're probably right about me not being able to be helped--that's for sure. But why 16----division 2 invites 28 ? teams. That way we all would be able to take the 40 pts ---when all those undeserving invited teams cover----heck even the money line +900 when the MEMPHIS TIGERS 28pt underdogs beat Ga. straight up.
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(06-01-2020 10:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 08:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 04:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.

If it is by ranked teams --then that puts the human bias in play once again. If it is a ranking--then it needs to be some type of formula computer type thing.... and screw Michigan---they should have beat Ohio St.----they had their chance. Every conference champ needs to get in

So using your very scientific, very stat centric, I hate Memphis/Joe Namath won a Super Bowl 51 years ago system for seeding, this who the 16 participants would have been last year.

$EC: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn
Big Ten: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State
Big 12: Oklahoma, Baylor
ACC: Clemson
PAC12: Utah
AAC: Memphis
MWC: Boise
Sun Belt: Appalachian State
CUSA: FAU
Mid American: Miami, OH

IF you think in a million years, that anyone; literally anyone would agree to a 16 team playoff system where the AAC, MWC, CUSA, Mid American, and Sun Belt conferences have the same number of teams as the ACC and PAC12...

You honestly can't be helped.

The AAC, MWC, CUSA, MAC, and SBC would agree to it. 05-stirthepot
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(06-02-2020 12:47 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 10:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 08:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 04:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.

If it is by ranked teams --then that puts the human bias in play once again. If it is a ranking--then it needs to be some type of formula computer type thing.... and screw Michigan---they should have beat Ohio St.----they had their chance. Every conference champ needs to get in

So using your very scientific, very stat centric, I hate Memphis/Joe Namath won a Super Bowl 51 years ago system for seeding, this who the 16 participants would have been last year.

$EC: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn
Big Ten: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State
Big 12: Oklahoma, Baylor
ACC: Clemson
PAC12: Utah
AAC: Memphis
MWC: Boise
Sun Belt: Appalachian State
CUSA: FAU
Mid American: Miami, OH

IF you think in a million years, that anyone; literally anyone would agree to a 16 team playoff system where the AAC, MWC, CUSA, Mid American, and Sun Belt conferences have the same number of teams as the ACC and PAC12...

You honestly can't be helped.

You're probably right about me not being able to be helped--that's for sure. But why 16----division 2 invites 28 ? teams. That way we all would be able to take the 40 pts ---when all those undeserving invited teams cover----heck even the money line +900 when the MEMPHIS TIGERS 28pt underdogs beat Ga. straight up.

IMO, it’s difficult to compare FCS structure to FBS structure. The balance of power/revenue gap is different, because almost all FCS teams lose money. The difference in revenue between FBS schools can be enormous. Penn State’s athletic dept brought in $110m more than Memphis. Texas topped Boise St by $171m, or about 450%. You’d get the occasional competitive game, but most teams simply don’t have the depth to compete in a sixteen team playoff with the elite.

Instead of a 12 game schedule, the FCS has 11. They have no CCG. They are in much better condition going into the playoffs based on those two factors alone. They have no bowl games. All playoff games (up to the championship game) are played on the campus of the higher ranked team.

I didn’t check with Snopes, but I think all of this is accurate. Not exactly apples to apples.
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(06-02-2020 01:11 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 12:47 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 10:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 08:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 04:47 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you go to 16 you cant just accept every conference champion...

You have to have a floor somewhere...Rank teams from 1-32 (Whatever-Number-You-want). If the conference champion is not in that ranking they are excluded.

Is if fair to tell Michigan, we know you are the a top 8 team in the country but you are not going to be included because you play in the same division as OSU.

Yeah I know the idea helps Memphis and the have nots...But I also want the tourney to be somewhat representative of the best teams in the country.

If it is by ranked teams --then that puts the human bias in play once again. If it is a ranking--then it needs to be some type of formula computer type thing.... and screw Michigan---they should have beat Ohio St.----they had their chance. Every conference champ needs to get in

So using your very scientific, very stat centric, I hate Memphis/Joe Namath won a Super Bowl 51 years ago system for seeding, this who the 16 participants would have been last year.

$EC: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn
Big Ten: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State
Big 12: Oklahoma, Baylor
ACC: Clemson
PAC12: Utah
AAC: Memphis
MWC: Boise
Sun Belt: Appalachian State
CUSA: FAU
Mid American: Miami, OH

IF you think in a million years, that anyone; literally anyone would agree to a 16 team playoff system where the AAC, MWC, CUSA, Mid American, and Sun Belt conferences have the same number of teams as the ACC and PAC12...

You honestly can't be helped.

You're probably right about me not being able to be helped--that's for sure. But why 16----division 2 invites 28 ? teams. That way we all would be able to take the 40 pts ---when all those undeserving invited teams cover----heck even the money line +900 when the MEMPHIS TIGERS 28pt underdogs beat Ga. straight up.

IMO, it’s difficult to compare FCS structure to FBS structure. The balance of power/revenue gap is different, because almost all FCS teams lose money. The difference in revenue between FBS schools can be enormous. Penn State’s athletic dept brought in $110m more than Memphis. Texas topped Boise St by $171m, or about 450%. You’d get the occasional competitive game, but most teams simply don’t have the depth to compete in a sixteen team playoff with the elite.

Instead of a 12 game schedule, the FCS has 11. They have no CCG. They are in much better condition going into the playoffs based on those two factors alone. They have no bowl games. All playoff games (up to the championship game) are played on the campus of the higher ranked team.

I didn’t check with Snopes, but I think all of this is accurate. Not exactly apples to apples.

I guess you're right-----but I have never understood the obsession of bowl games---to me they have always been akin to NFL preseason games----they really mean nothing and always political-- screwing the little guys----It wouldnt hurt my feelings if they were eliminated or incorporated into some type of expanded playoffs .
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(06-02-2020 12:56 PM)Alanda Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 10:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  So using your very scientific, very stat centric, I hate Memphis/Joe Namath won a Super Bowl 51 years ago system for seeding, this who the 16 participants would have been last year.

$EC: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn
Big Ten: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State
Big 12: Oklahoma, Baylor
ACC: Clemson
PAC12: Utah
AAC: Memphis
MWC: Boise
Sun Belt: Appalachian State
CUSA: FAU
Mid American: Miami, OH

IF you think in a million years, that anyone; literally anyone would agree to a 16 team playoff system where the AAC, MWC, CUSA, Mid American, and Sun Belt conferences have the same number of teams as the ACC and PAC12...

You honestly can't be helped.

The AAC, MWC, CUSA, MAC, and SBC would agree to it. 05-stirthepot

Shoot, I'm anybody, and I would approve of it! Of course if Stammers meant anybody in a decision-making position, then that's a different statement.

And I have proof I can't be helped - my wife has been telling me that since the quarantine started....

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06-02-2020 01:47 PM
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RE: Highest ranked Group of 5 team in the country is....
(06-02-2020 01:28 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 01:11 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  
(06-02-2020 12:47 AM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 10:04 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(06-01-2020 08:10 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  If it is by ranked teams --then that puts the human bias in play once again. If it is a ranking--then it needs to be some type of formula computer type thing.... and screw Michigan---they should have beat Ohio St.----they had their chance. Every conference champ needs to get in

So using your very scientific, very stat centric, I hate Memphis/Joe Namath won a Super Bowl 51 years ago system for seeding, this who the 16 participants would have been last year.

$EC: LSU, Georgia, Florida, Auburn
Big Ten: Ohio State, Wisconsin, Penn State
Big 12: Oklahoma, Baylor
ACC: Clemson
PAC12: Utah
AAC: Memphis
MWC: Boise
Sun Belt: Appalachian State
CUSA: FAU
Mid American: Miami, OH

IF you think in a million years, that anyone; literally anyone would agree to a 16 team playoff system where the AAC, MWC, CUSA, Mid American, and Sun Belt conferences have the same number of teams as the ACC and PAC12...

You honestly can't be helped.

You're probably right about me not being able to be helped--that's for sure. But why 16----division 2 invites 28 ? teams. That way we all would be able to take the 40 pts ---when all those undeserving invited teams cover----heck even the money line +900 when the MEMPHIS TIGERS 28pt underdogs beat Ga. straight up.

IMO, it’s difficult to compare FCS structure to FBS structure. The balance of power/revenue gap is different, because almost all FCS teams lose money. The difference in revenue between FBS schools can be enormous. Penn State’s athletic dept brought in $110m more than Memphis. Texas topped Boise St by $171m, or about 450%. You’d get the occasional competitive game, but most teams simply don’t have the depth to compete in a sixteen team playoff with the elite.

Instead of a 12 game schedule, the FCS has 11. They have no CCG. They are in much better condition going into the playoffs based on those two factors alone. They have no bowl games. All playoff games (up to the championship game) are played on the campus of the higher ranked team.

I didn’t check with Snopes, but I think all of this is accurate. Not exactly apples to apples.

I guess you're right-----but I have never understood the obsession of bowl games---to me they have always been akin to NFL preseason games----they really mean nothing and always political-- screwing the little guys----It wouldnt hurt my feelings if they were eliminated or incorporated into some type of expanded playoffs .

I don’t know that I’m right. I’m just spitballing. The playoffs as they now stand rotate between six member bowls. I suppose they’d just grow that list. I agree that the remaining bowls mean little. They’re just a post-season reward for players and fans and most schools break even at best.
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RE: Highest ranked Group of 5 team in the country is....
The only reason for the existence of many of the bowls is to give ESPiN content to show the frenzied football fanbase and to sell advertising to many corporations for their own profits. They couldn't care less about the participating schools making anything or breaking even.
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