We will see record levels of cheating, of this I am certain. Problem is, so many large blue cities that swamp the vote of their states have dem AGs that control the election procedures.
"Nothing to see here. Move on. I don't care if you ARE GOP election monitors. You CAN'T be in this back room where the votes are tallied."
(05-26-2020 02:05 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: We will see record levels of cheating, of this I am certain. Problem is, so many large blue cities that swamp the vote of their states have dem AGs that control the election procedures.
"Nothing to see here. Move on. I don't care if you ARE GOP election monitors. You CAN'T be in this back room where the votes are tallied."
Dems rampantly carried out voter fraud in the South in the Civil War era. Why would anyone think that has changed?
(05-26-2020 02:05 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote: We will see record levels of cheating, of this I am certain. Problem is, so many large blue cities that swamp the vote of their states have dem AGs that control the election procedures.
"Nothing to see here. Move on. I don't care if you ARE GOP election monitors. You CAN'T be in this back room where the votes are tallied."
Dems rampantly carried out voter fraud in the South in the Civil War era. Why would anyone think that has changed?
It was their hallmark in NY during the Tammany Hall days.
CNN Host Insists Voter Fraud is 'Basically Non-Existant'; Gets Schooled By Alabama Sec of State
Quote:Merrill tells her, “I know that since I’ve been the Secretary of State in Alabama – five years, four months and eight days – we’ve had six convictions on voter fraud, we’ve had two elections that have been overturned. Five of the six that have been convicted were convicted for fraudulent activity related to absentee balloting. I know that for a fact.”
“Are you aware that the research shows that in-person voting is more likely to result in voter fraud, which, overall, is basically nonexistent?” Keilar asked with a derisive chuckle. “So it’s kind of odd that we’re having this conversation, but it’s mostly in-person voting, not absentee ballot voting.”
The unflappable Merrill struck back and told her, “everyone is entitled to their opinions but they’re not entitled to their own facts. And the facts in our state show that we have had voter fraud, that we have had people convicted and those people are currently incarcerated. Period. We’re making it easy to vote and hard to cheat in Alabama.”
Perhaps these young so called journalists are unaware of how stupid they look when they do this kind of thing. Arrogant and unaware. But then, their audience is mostly brain dead fools that believe the nonsense and airports where nobody is watching it.
(05-27-2020 02:54 PM)fsquid Wrote: again, show where it has been statistically significant. Of course there is some amount of fraud in anything involving humans.
It's never been done before, so no one can show anything. If you don't believe Trump when he said, "Whoever cheats the best will win" you're completely naive.
(05-27-2020 02:54 PM)fsquid Wrote: again, show where it has been statistically significant. Of course there is some amount of fraud in anything involving humans.
Heritage has a page where they document election fraud cases by state. Nobody has an exhaustive list partly because it isn't looked for and unfortunately, when somebody is caught, it is usually AFTER an election.
Fraudulent voting can swing close elections. Look at all the states that have tens of thousands of people on the voting rolls that are either dead or have moved out of state. Some people vote in two different states. There are lots of ways to cheat the system, which is basically an honor system. That's asking for trouble as few people have any honor anymore.
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Quote:Citizen journalist Colleen Vera has discovered evidence of what appears to be a massive voter fraud ring operating in the state of Texas involving mail-in voting and Democrat political campaigns. Evidence presented below includes a video of a Democrat campaign surrogate harvesting mail ballots from a nursing home, audio of a Democrat campaign worker admitting to harvesting ballots from a nursing home, and mail-in ballots from Harris County that all have the same handwriting and envelope process.
Vera alleges that the campaign of Democrat Congresswoman Sheila Jackson Lee recently paid two convicted forgers, and that other Democrat campaigns have also paid convicted forgers for canvassing efforts. I spoke to Collen Vera regarding her findings:
After the 2016 Democratic Primary, a candidate for Harris County Constable (Pct 3), Jasen Rabalais, filed a lawsuit claiming that a campaign worker for another candidate,Michel Pappillion, “deliberately falsified, illegally completed or unlawfully influenced the ballots and early voting applications of elderly residents in Harris County.”
The lawsuit was dismissed. But the following audio tapes had been made by the Rabalais campaign after he found out that an “alleged harvester” was working for an opponent’s campaign.
Quote:If President Trump is seeking a high-ranking Democrat to side with him against mail-in election ballots – in a bid to build bipartisan opposition to the idea in Congress -- he could try contacting U.S. Rep. Jerry Nadler.
Although Nadler, as chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, helped lead the impeachment fight against Trump last year, a C-SPAN video clip from 2004 shows the New Yorker speaking out strongly against paper-based ballots during a Capitol Hill hearing.
At the hearing -- in which lawmakers examined perceived voting problems in an Ohio election -- a member of the public spoke in support of paper ballots, later citing research by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology that she said showed hand-counted paper ballots to be “among the most reliable” voting methods.
Nadler didn’t agree.
“Paper ballots are extremely susceptible to fraud,” he said. “And at least with the old clunky voting machines that we have in New York, the deliberate fraud is way down compared to paper.
“When the machines break down, they vote on paper – they’ve had real problems,” he added.
Nadler didn’t have a suggestion for an absolutely reliable voting method, but said, “There’s gotta be a way of getting the best of our methodologies.”
The woman from the audience continued her support of paper ballots.
“At least if there’s a miscount you can discover it,” she said. “You can’t discover miscounts with these machines.”
Nadler then pitched “optical scan with paper” as a compromise solution – meaning paper ballots would be scanned electronically to count the votes. But he wasn’t ready to endorse a hand-counted paper-based system.
“I want a paper trail, I want paper somewhere,” Nadler said. “But pure paper with no machines? I can show you experience which would make your head spin.”
Earlier this month, Nadler accused President Trump of opposing mail-in ballots because he was worried that voters "won't vote for you."
In a Tuesday morning Twitter message, President Trump asserted that mail-in ballots would be “substantially fraudulent” if used for the 2020 presidential election.
The president’s argument appeared in line with that of a 2005 bipartisan report prepared by a federal election reform panel chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former U.S. Secretary of State James Baker.
“Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud,” the report concluded.
But a mail-in plan has been suggested for November in a $3.6 billion proposal this month by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.
Democrats such as California Gov. Gavin Newsom have also supported mail-in voting for some remaining state primary elections.
Mail-In Ballots Make Voter Fraud Easy. I Know Because I Did It.
Quote:The coronavirus outbreak is wreaking havoc on America’s elections, as evidenced by the fight over Wisconsin’s primary this week.
One proposed solution is moving everyone to voting by mail, but President Trump isn’t a fan. “A lot of people cheat with mail-in voting,” he said last week.
He’s got a point. I’ve done it myself.
In 2011, when I was living in Palm Beach County, Florida, I decided to test the system, and so I asked for three voter registration applications.
I filled them out, listing three different names — two that I pulled out of my head Rebecca Bugle and Hannah Arendt — and my own name, Margaret Menge.
I listed my real date of birth, and made up dates of birth for the other two. On the lines where the application asked for a driver’s license number or last four of social security number, I wrote “none” as the instructions said to do if a person has neither of these.
A few weeks later I got two notices back, saying applications for Rebecca Bugle and Margaret Menge could not be processed because a driver’s license number or social security number was not provided.
But I also received in my mailbox a new voter information card for Hannah Arendt.
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...the fact is that they check names of people applying to register to vote against several different databases, but they have no way to check to see whether someone exists.
That’s just one way people can cheat with absentee ballots. There are many more.
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Also in 2019, a Democratic city clerk in Southfield, Michigan, was arrested and charged with six felonies for falsifying absentee ballot records to say that 193 of the ballots in one election were missing signatures or a return date, when in fact they had both. The correct records were found in the trash can in her office.
In the new $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief bill, Congress awarded $400 million to states to support elections — specifically, to help pay for changes that need to be made to elections, including a shift to more voting by mail.
But J. Christian Adams of the Public Interest Legal Foundation (PILF) says if states aren’t careful, they’ll be issuing “an open invitation to fraud.”
“There are two big problems with vote by mail,” Adams told InsideSources. “Number one are the sort of things we discovered in the Justice Department when I was there — of people voting the ballot for other people through undue influence. That’s the first one. The second one — the voter rolls are a mess.”
Adams’ organization has sued several states and counties for refusing to maintain accurate voter rolls, allowing the names of thousands of dead voters, felons and non-citizens to remain in the system. Messy voter rolls make election fraud much easier, Adams says.
............................... PILF is currently suing Allegheny County, Pennsylvania, for allowing the same person to register to vote seven times.
“It’s the exact same name, the exact same date of birth,” Adams said, as well as the same address. But the city and state won’t remove the extra registrations.
“In a vote by mail scheme, they’ll mail seven ballots,” he said.
States, I’ve since discovered, have no access to any master list of American citizens. So they can check to see if “Hannah Arendt” is a felon, or if she passed away as they can access death records.
But they have no way of checking to see whether an American citizen with that birth date exists. It’s an enormous hole in the ballot security system.
Eight years have passed, and I assumed that someone had taken ‘Hannah Arendt’ off the rolls by now.
But sure enough, when I checked the county website a few days ago, she was still there — with a message that read: “We have been unable to verify that this is your correct address. Please confirm or update your address with our office or use this website’s “Change of Address” feature before voting in the next election.”
I won’t be casting that fraudulent ballot. But I have to wonder: will my vote in the next election be canceled out by somebody who did?[quote]
From an article on voter fraud in Philadelphia.....here are a few excerpts:
Pennsylvania: How Democrats Can Steal An Election[/size]
Quote:In Pennsylvania, more insidious than the overt fraud just exposed by the Justice Department, are the myriad subtler ways in which perhaps more systematized election fraud occurs. Out-of-date voter rolls often list multiple names at the same address. Deceased voters may not be immediately purged. Once an individual has voted in Pennsylvania, a poll worker is not permitted to ask for identification. If that individual keeps voting, their name remains on the rolls without question. That’s how dead people vote. That’s how multiple residents at the same address vote. Moreover, if a live voter has recently moved, it is possible they can vote in two different polling places. In the past few years, Pennsylvanians have been successfully prosecuted for: fraudulent use of absentee ballots, either through forgery, or filing without the real voter’s knowledge; duplicate voting; ineligible voting due to lack of citizenship; and, multiple registrations both inside and out of state. These abuses frequently occur in other states as well.
Quote:In 2019, Democrat Gov. Tom Wolf signed a law that all registered voters could apply for an absentee ballot without having to provide a reason. Previously, one could only vote absentee by stating on the application that one would be out of state on election day or was physically prevented from voting in person.
Quote:With Democrats in a vast majority, Philadelphia as of one week ago had received 158,000 write-in ballots compared with a presidential election record of 23,000. Allegheny County, which includes Pittsburgh, had received more than 225,000 ballots when in a normal primary they receive 10,000.
Quote:Additionally, alarm bells should be ringing in every Republican’s heart from an article published in Politico, May 24, 2020, by Holly Otterbein:
Key swing state warns of November election ‘nightmare’.
‘Pennsylvania could determine the presidency. But it might not be clear for days who won the state on Nov. 3.
Election officials throughout the critical battleground, which is implementing no-excuse mail-in voting for the first time ever amid pandemic, say they are unlikely to finish counting those ballots the night of the general election.
If the race is close enough – as it was in 2016, when Donald Trump carried the state by only 44,000 votes – that could mean the status of one of the nation’s biggest swing states could remain up in the air long past Election Day.
“My nightmare is that on Election Day in November, you’re waiting for Montgomery County results to declare Pennsylvania to declare who wins the White House,” said Montgomery County Commissioner Ken Lawrence, a Democrat who chairs the Board of Elections there. “The reality is that all of our counties are going to be in that same situation, and it will take a while to actually count the ballots.”
Less than two weeks away from Pennsylvania’s primary, some state election officials said they lack the funding and staff needed to handle the massive influx of mail-in ballots they’ve received for that race.
They also said the fact that they legally can’t start counting those ballots until the morning of Election Day is complicating matters…’
Rewind: ‘ … they legally can’t start counting those ballots until the morning of Election Day…’?!
If the officials start counting on the morning of election day, how is a cross check enacted to ensure that double in-person voting is thwarted? If not stopped, the Democrats seem to be setting the stage for How to steal an election, in November.
Quote:It turns out yet again that Trump was right all along. And Democrats have indeed been paying for fake votes. But as usual, the truth didn’t come from the media. It came from an independent citizen journalist who dug through public records to find a dirty tale of corruption that everyone missed –– including the mainstream media.
In a 2016 election for constable in Harris County, Texas candidate Jasen Rabalais had a nurse approach him and offer to get him fraudulent votes - from seniors. He refused the offer but was taken aback when she turned up on election day working for one of his opponents, Michel Pappillion. He lost to Pappillion in a run off by 37 votes.
Rabalais filed a lawsuit.
Quote:Colleen Vera, a conservative pundit of Texas Trash Talk, took the charges seriously and there was proof to show for it. The suspect accused of fraud, a woman named Gloria Palmer, explains how she does mail-in ballot harvesting in two videos posted by Vera on her YouTube channel.
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Because Palmer was employed by U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-T.X., an outspoken liberal and Trump critic. Federal records show that the Democratic congresswoman paid Palmer more than $2,000 for campaign assistance.
If Vera’s sleuthing is right, that means that lawmakers in the Democratic Party are paying convicted forgers to “help” fill out ballots for old, sick, vulnerable patients inside retirement homes.
It is jaw dropping how simple and easy to pull off this scheme was.
Republicans are going to vote by mail because of the coronavirus. Several poll workers from both parties and the voters caught the virus voting. Republicans told him that there are no such thing as long as it is done right. Utah is doing it, and Trump have not called them out.
