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Hey Everyone,

So we're working on putting together some great content for everyone here -- it has to do with highlighting some Tribe Football legends from the past.

However, as you can imagine, some (read: a lot) of info is not on the internet (not where we can find it, at least). If anyone here could help answer any of the below, it would be greatly appreciated!

1. Glen Bodnar -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), graduation year, and what number did he wear for W&M? A photo would be great.

2. Dick Pawlewicz -- what number did he wear at W&M?

3. Dave Conklin -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), and does anyone have a photo of him at W&M? Impossible to find it.

4. Vito Ragazzo -- what was his: number at W&M, and does anyone have a photo of him at W&M? Again, impossible to find it.

5. Mike Tomlin -- I'm estimating his height/weight at 5'9" 175 back in the W&M days...sound accurate?

6. Archie Harris -- Anyone have a photo of him? Who knows what number he wore at W&M?

7. Jack Bruce -- Again looking for a photo of him at W&M and the number he wore at W&M.

8. Mark Kelso -- Surprisingly impossible to find a photo of him at W&M...did he wear #38 at W&M?

A massive thank you in advance!
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(05-23-2020 02:40 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Hey Everyone,

So we're working on putting together some great content for everyone here -- it has to do with highlighting some Tribe Football legends from the past.

However, as you can imagine, some (read: a lot) of info is not on the internet (not where we can find it, at least). If anyone here could help answer any of the below, it would be greatly appreciated!

1. Glen Bodnar -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), graduation year, and what number did he wear for W&M? A photo would be great.

2. Dick Pawlewicz -- what number did he wear at W&M?

3. Dave Conklin -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), and does anyone have a photo of him at W&M? Impossible to find it.

4. Vito Ragazzo -- what was his: number at W&M, and does anyone have a photo of him at W&M? Again, impossible to find it.

5. Mike Tomlin -- I'm estimating his height/weight at 5'9" 175 back in the W&M days...sound accurate? Mike was listed as 6'0 180 in 1991.

6. Archie Harris -- Anyone have a photo of him? Who knows what number he wore at W&M? He wore #72. Interesting note - he also appeared in the movie "The Replacements".

7. Jack Bruce -- Again looking for a photo of him at W&M and the number he wore at W&M.

8. Mark Kelso -- Surprisingly impossible to find a photo of him at W&M...did he wear #38 at W&M? He wore #23.

A massive thank you in advance!

See info in Bold. I will also PM you with some pictures.
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Ragazzo wore #28
Bruce wore #10
Pawlewicz wore#81
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(05-23-2020 02:58 PM)Tribe1693 Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 02:40 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Hey Everyone,

So we're working on putting together some great content for everyone here -- it has to do with highlighting some Tribe Football legends from the past.

However, as you can imagine, some (read: a lot) of info is not on the internet (not where we can find it, at least). If anyone here could help answer any of the below, it would be greatly appreciated!

1. Glen Bodnar -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), graduation year, and what number did he wear for W&M? A photo would be great.

2. Dick Pawlewicz -- what number did he wear at W&M?

3. Dave Conklin -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), and does anyone have a photo of him at W&M? Impossible to find it.

4. Vito Ragazzo -- what was his: number at W&M, and does anyone have a photo of him at W&M? Again, impossible to find it.

5. Mike Tomlin -- I'm estimating his height/weight at 5'9" 175 back in the W&M days...sound accurate? Mike was listed as 6'0 180 in 1991.

6. Archie Harris -- Anyone have a photo of him? Who knows what number he wore at W&M? He wore #72. Interesting note - he also appeared in the movie "The Replacements".

7. Jack Bruce -- Again looking for a photo of him at W&M and the number he wore at W&M.

8. Mark Kelso -- Surprisingly impossible to find a photo of him at W&M...did he wear #38 at W&M? He wore #23.

A massive thank you in advance!

See info in Bold. I will also PM you with some pictures.

Thank you! Very helpful.
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(05-23-2020 03:29 PM)billymac Wrote:  Ragazzo wore #28
Bruce wore #10
Pawlewicz wore#81

Also very helpful -- appreciate this! Since Bruce played so long ago, in the 40s, I have no idea what his measurements were. Estimating them at 5'10" 170 lb for the time being -- but let me know if that sounds off to you at all. Probably an impossible task there.

Also estimating Dick Pawlewicz at 6'0" 225 lb.
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Still looking for info below, if anyone knows!

1. Glen Bodnar -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), graduation year, and what number did he wear for W&M? A photo would be great.

2. Dave Conklin -- height and weight (can be approx)

3. Vito Ragazzo -- does anyone have a photo of him at W&M?

4. Jack Bruce -- looking for a photo of him at W&M, probably very hard to find.

5. Dave Pocta -- what number was Dave Pocta?
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Here's the best I can do. All courtesy of W&M Athletics.

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Archie on right.

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Mark.

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"Jumpin' Jack" Bruce

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Vito #28.
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(05-23-2020 04:12 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Still looking for info below, if anyone knows!

1. Glen Bodnar -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), graduation year, and what number did he wear for W&M? A photo would be great.

2. Dave Conklin -- height and weight (can be approx)

3. Vito Ragazzo -- does anyone have a photo of him at W&M?

4. Jack Bruce -- looking for a photo of him at W&M, probably very hard to find.

5. Dave Pocta -- what number was Dave Pocta?

Bodnar wore 19
Pocta wore number 54
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Bodnar was an H-Back. He was tall. 6'5". Probably 235 lbs. He was Yagiello's favorite safety valve. He played for the Redskins scab team in 1987
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Amazing info -- THANK YOU all! I think you guys will like some of the content we push out related to these Tribe legends.

Only 1 remaining player with questions now, after looking back over my list (might actually be an impossible find):

Tex Warrington (Center) -- graduated '44, right before Lou Creekmur. Anchored the O-Line during some of the glory years. He played for the Brooklyn Dodgers (football), and seemingly wore #20 there.

If we can't dig anything up, I'll assume that was the # he wore at W&M.
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(05-23-2020 05:46 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Amazing info -- THANK YOU all! I think you guys will like some of the content we push out related to these Tribe legends.

Only 1 remaining player with questions now, after looking back over my list (might actually be an impossible find):

Tex Warrington (Center) -- graduated '44, right before Lou Creekmur. Anchored the O-Line during some of the glory years. He played for the Brooklyn Dodgers (football), and seemingly wore #20 there.

If we can't dig anything up, I'll assume that was the # he wore at W&M.

You can find old yearbooks with this info online. Search Colonial Echo archives with the year you are looking for.
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(05-23-2020 06:32 PM)Touchdown Green and Gold Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 05:46 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Amazing info -- THANK YOU all! I think you guys will like some of the content we push out related to these Tribe legends.

Only 1 remaining player with questions now, after looking back over my list (might actually be an impossible find):

Tex Warrington (Center) -- graduated '44, right before Lou Creekmur. Anchored the O-Line during some of the glory years. He played for the Brooklyn Dodgers (football), and seemingly wore #20 there.

If we can't dig anything up, I'll assume that was the # he wore at W&M.

You can find old yearbooks with this info online. Search Colonial Echo archives with the year you are looking for.

Conklin height/weight in this article:
https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-xpm-1...story.html
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(05-23-2020 06:32 PM)Touchdown Green and Gold Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 05:46 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Amazing info -- THANK YOU all! I think you guys will like some of the content we push out related to these Tribe legends.

Only 1 remaining player with questions now, after looking back over my list (might actually be an impossible find):

Tex Warrington (Center) -- graduated '44, right before Lou Creekmur. Anchored the O-Line during some of the glory years. He played for the Brooklyn Dodgers (football), and seemingly wore #20 there.

If we can't dig anything up, I'll assume that was the # he wore at W&M.

You can find old yearbooks with this info online. Search Colonial Echo archives with the year you are looking for.

Great idea -- just found him in the 1944 edition. He's bending down for a snap, but looks like he's wearing #25.

Thank you!
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(05-23-2020 06:59 PM)WM Beancounter Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 06:32 PM)Touchdown Green and Gold Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 05:46 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Amazing info -- THANK YOU all! I think you guys will like some of the content we push out related to these Tribe legends.

Only 1 remaining player with questions now, after looking back over my list (might actually be an impossible find):

Tex Warrington (Center) -- graduated '44, right before Lou Creekmur. Anchored the O-Line during some of the glory years. He played for the Brooklyn Dodgers (football), and seemingly wore #20 there.

If we can't dig anything up, I'll assume that was the # he wore at W&M.

Perfect, thanks! I think all of my questions were answered in less than 24 hours. Incredible.

You can find old yearbooks with this info online. Search Colonial Echo archives with the year you are looking for.

Conklin height/weight in this article:
https://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-xpm-1...story.html
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(05-23-2020 02:40 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Hey Everyone,

So we're working on putting together some great content for everyone here -- it has to do with highlighting some Tribe Football legends from the past.

However, as you can imagine, some (read: a lot) of info is not on the internet (not where we can find it, at least). If anyone here could help answer any of the below, it would be greatly appreciated!

1. Glen Bodnar -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx)...?

3. Dave Conklin -- what was his: height and weight (can be approx), ...?

5. Mike Tomlin -- I'm estimating his height/weight at 5'9" 175 back in the W&M days...sound accurate?

(05-23-2020 02:58 PM)Tribe1693 Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 02:40 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  5. Mike Tomlin -- I'm estimating his height/weight at 5'9" 175 back in the W&M days...sound accurate? Mike was listed as 6'0 180 in 1991.

See info in Bold. I will also PM you with some pictures.

(05-23-2020 04:09 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  ... Since Bruce played so long ago, in the 40s, I have no idea what his measurements were. Estimating them at 5'10" 170 lb for the time being -- but let me know if that sounds off to you at all. Probably an impossible task there.

Also estimating Dick Pawlewicz at 6'0" 225 lb.

(05-23-2020 05:46 PM)WMSportsBlog Wrote:  Tex Warrington (Center) -- graduated '44, right before Lou Creekmur. Anchored the O-Line during some of the glory years. He played for the Brooklyn Dodgers (football), and seemingly wore #20 there.

If we can't dig anything up, I'll assume that was the # he wore at W&M.

Seriously, guys? Estimating players' height and weight? Your estimate for Tomlin vice the listed size shows the problem with that (although, granted, we all know that many times the listed size of a player is inflated...but guessing it is even worse). Also, assuming a player wore the same number in the pros as he did in college is a bad assumption. In this internet age, any "fact" found online takes on the aura of truth. Your article with players' estimated sizes could become "fact" to future folks researching the internet. I know that you can do better.
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Jack Bruce set the W&M record for most interceptions in a game...3...which has since been tied by others.

When Vito Ragazzo caught 15 passes in one season he set the NCAA national record.
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