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UConn ripped to shreds in this article.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/26/uc...ports-cuts
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(05-26-2020 12:37 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  UConn ripped to shreds in this article.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/26/uc...ports-cuts

Just read the article and he's not entirely incorrect. It's his editorializing that is bothersome. I've heard many times that UConn should drop to FCS but I have 91.2 million reasons that prevent that from happening. And it's an old tired excuse about the stadium and it's distance from campus. Sure, it would be great to be in Storrs but that wasn't happening due to the NIMBY factor.

Keep in mind that U Miami plays 21 miles from campus and UCLA plays 27 miles away. UConn plays 20 miles from campus not the 30 he stated. Last I knew Lincoln Financial Field is not on Temple's campus as well.
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(05-26-2020 12:55 PM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(05-26-2020 12:37 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  UConn ripped to shreds in this article.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/26/uc...ports-cuts

Just read the article and he's not entirely incorrect. It's his editorializing that is bothersome. I've heard many times that UConn should drop to FCS but I have 91.2 million reasons that prevent that from happening. And it's an old tired excuse about the stadium and it's distance from campus. Sure, it would be great to be in Storrs but that wasn't happening due to the NIMBY factor.

Keep in mind that U Miami plays 21 miles from campus and UCLA plays 27 miles away. UConn plays 20 miles from campus not the 30 he stated. Last I knew Lincoln Financial Field is not on Temple's campus as well.

We're 9 miles from the Linc and it's too far.
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I remember posting about 15-16 years ago that UConn football was going to have an uphill climb and that they weren't going to add a whole lot to the Big East, and people just ripping me for it.
Wish I could go back and bump that post so bad right now....
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A great irony about UConn
Because you have that much hate in your heart? Lol.

Who cares. If you're rooting for programs to fall you have serious issues.

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Quote:Other Big East schools do not field an FBS-level football program, which allows up to 85 scholarships. In leaving the AAC and becoming an independent program, UConn football figures to save money on travel, and play at least one “guarantee game” in which it will be paid a sum of $1.5-$1.9 million to play a road game at a national power such as Clemson or Michigan.


More smoke being blown here. Buy games were possible in the AAC and the money was better. They are traveling an extra 1800 miles this season and have one fewer road game.

Quote:But these changes will not come close to the $10 million UConn needs to trim from athletics, which puts non-revenue sports in jeopardy.

It goes on to say golf is like 750k and track is like 1.5m and cutting those doesn't add up either.

Ladies and gentlemen the table has been set. FBS UConn football will be sacraficied. It will be ostensibly on the alter of covid 19, but that will be only a convient cover.
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(06-11-2020 08:27 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  I remember posting about 15-16 years ago that UConn football was going to have an uphill climb and that they weren't going to add a whole lot to the Big East, and people just ripping me for it.
Wish I could go back and bump that post so bad right now....

People were rightfully ripping you. Sure we sucked in this misfit league but we won 2 Big East titles in short order.
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(06-11-2020 10:14 PM)huskiesnyc Wrote:  
(06-11-2020 08:27 PM)SMUleopold Wrote:  I remember posting about 15-16 years ago that UConn football was going to have an uphill climb and that they weren't going to add a whole lot to the Big East, and people just ripping me for it.
Wish I could go back and bump that post so bad right now....

People were rightfully ripping you. Sure we sucked in this misfit league but we won 2 Big East titles in short order.

Nah.

I was definitely right.
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I don't think there was any irony in regards to the OP.

In 2013 UConn was still in a mindset of being a P5/BCS Athletic Department, still enjoying decent football and saw football as a way of keeping pace with the rest of FBS. I don't think they wanted to hurt anyone but was actively working to improve conference affiliation, which is what pretty much everyone in the G5 would like to do.

Nearly a decade's worth of terrible decisions by the admin and the ADs were way too much to overcome.

-Not increasing the pay of Edsall's original staff resulted in losing key coaches to bigger schools.

-Not accepting a lopsided but fair deal for a long term series with Notre Dame. This was really ego by the state and the admin. That deal looks pretty sweet now.

-Replacing Edsall with a caretaker Coach in Pasqualoni. Hathaway literally thought the program would just keep on trucking. Pasqualoni's staff was inferior. Edsall had a some real talent on hand. Moorhead, Ambrose, Orlando, Richardson etc.. Our DB coach was hired away by UGA.

-Keeping Pasqualoni for a third year and then replacing him with Diaco. Diaco was brought in to help Warde Manuel win some press conferences. He was loud and eccentric but he and his staff were even worse than Pasqualoni's. Recruiting went completely into the toilet.

-New AD comes in, extends Diaco and then fires him. We end up limited on who we can hire because there isn't much left. He brings back Edsall, who clashed with Lashlee. Lashlee left after one season. Lashlee could have been the HC.... Edsall was brought back in because it was thought that he knew how to make UConn successful. Only on his first go round he had the Big East and the BCS to sell recruits. Now not so much.

-UConn FB will sink or swim as an independent. Recruiting appears to be having a slight uptick but it is very early. Scheduling Armageddon has been avoided. A TV deal is in place. If the program continues to fail then the school will have failed. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

-As for the AAC, I think UConn fans will enjoy playing against some of their former AAC foes. Excited to see Temple, and I would love a series with Cincy. Most UConn fans are really nostalgic for the Big East football conference. So games against Syracuse and Rutgers will be appealing.
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And FTR, at first I wasn't happy about leaving the AAC. I am 100% a football fan. I like basketball doing well but I don't lose any sleep when they don't.

I always disliked the C7 in the Old Big East. They were mostly a bunch parasites who benefited from being in a BCS conference. I actively rooted against them after they left.

I think failing in the AAC was a major missed opportunity for UConn. I don't believe for a second that if UConn had different results that they still would have left. It's one thing to lose money and win and another to lose money and look pitiful on the field.

Over time I have seen the wisdom in it. I like the direction things are going in.
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RE: A great irony about UConn
(06-16-2020 01:04 PM)UConnFB Wrote:  I don't think there was any irony in regards to the OP.

In 2013 UConn was still in a mindset of being a P5/BCS Athletic Department, still enjoying decent football and saw football as a way of keeping pace with the rest of FBS. I don't think they wanted to hurt anyone but was actively working to improve conference affiliation, which is what pretty much everyone in the G5 would like to do.

Nearly a decade's worth of terrible decisions by the admin and the ADs were way too much to overcome.

-Not increasing the pay of Edsall's original staff resulted in losing key coaches to bigger schools.

-Not accepting a lopsided but fair deal for a long term series with Notre Dame. This was really ego by the state and the admin. That deal looks pretty sweet now.

-Replacing Edsall with a caretaker Coach in Pasqualoni. Hathaway literally thought the program would just keep on trucking. Pasqualoni's staff was inferior. Edsall had a some real talent on hand. Moorhead, Ambrose, Orlando, Richardson etc.. Our DB coach was hired away by UGA.

-Keeping Pasqualoni for a third year and then replacing him with Diaco. Diaco was brought in to help Warde Manuel win some press conferences. He was loud and eccentric but he and his staff were even worse than Pasqualoni's. Recruiting went completely into the toilet.

-New AD comes in, extends Diaco and then fires him. We end up limited on who we can hire because there isn't much left. He brings back Edsall, who clashed with Lashlee. Lashlee left after one season. Lashlee could have been the HC.... Edsall was brought back in because it was thought that he knew how to make UConn successful. Only on his first go round he had the Big East and the BCS to sell recruits. Now not so much.

-UConn FB will sink or swim as an independent. Recruiting appears to be having a slight uptick but it is very early. Scheduling Armageddon has been avoided. A TV deal is in place. If the program continues to fail then the school will have failed. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

-As for the AAC, I think UConn fans will enjoy playing against some of their former AAC foes. Excited to see Temple, and I would love a series with Cincy. Most UConn fans are really nostalgic for the Big East football conference. So games against Syracuse and Rutgers will be appealing.

Not trying to be an arse, but I just don't see it happening barring some massive change in the landscape. UC has most of their games filled for the most part of the next decade. UC also has to play Miami of Ohio every year, so the OOC scheduling has been FCS, Miami, and 1-2 P5s. There are a few other non-P5s like Western Michigan, Ohio and Western KY, but UC wants to schedule regional opponents OOC for a variety of reasons.

Like UConn fans, UC fans miss the Big East all-sports conference circa 2005-2011. We aren't happy about being in the AAC, losing out on revenue and not seeing another increase 12 years out, the loss of rivals (UofL, Pitt, WVU), etc. We don't have any alternatives unfortunately and just have to make the best out of our life in the AAC for now.
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(05-26-2020 01:06 PM)JHG722 Wrote:  
(05-26-2020 12:55 PM)WhalerFan Wrote:  
(05-26-2020 12:37 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  UConn ripped to shreds in this article.

https://www.si.com/college/2020/05/26/uc...ports-cuts

Just read the article and he's not entirely incorrect. It's his editorializing that is bothersome. I've heard many times that UConn should drop to FCS but I have 91.2 million reasons that prevent that from happening. And it's an old tired excuse about the stadium and it's distance from campus. Sure, it would be great to be in Storrs but that wasn't happening due to the NIMBY factor.

Keep in mind that U Miami plays 21 miles from campus and UCLA plays 27 miles away. UConn plays 20 miles from campus not the 30 he stated. Last I knew Lincoln Financial Field is not on Temple's campus as well.

We're 9 miles from the Linc and it's too far.

That's a subway ride from Temple's main campus (a straight shot downtown on the Broad Street Line) and a 7 minute walk to the stadium.



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(06-16-2020 01:04 PM)UConnFB Wrote:  I don't think there was any irony in regards to the OP.

In 2013 UConn was still in a mindset of being a P5/BCS Athletic Department, still enjoying decent football and saw football as a way of keeping pace with the rest of FBS. I don't think they wanted to hurt anyone but was actively working to improve conference affiliation, which is what pretty much everyone in the G5 would like to do.

Nearly a decade's worth of terrible decisions by the admin and the ADs were way too much to overcome.

-Not increasing the pay of Edsall's original staff resulted in losing key coaches to bigger schools.

-Not accepting a lopsided but fair deal for a long term series with Notre Dame. This was really ego by the state and the admin. That deal looks pretty sweet now.

-Replacing Edsall with a caretaker Coach in Pasqualoni. Hathaway literally thought the program would just keep on trucking. Pasqualoni's staff was inferior. Edsall had a some real talent on hand. Moorhead, Ambrose, Orlando, Richardson etc.. Our DB coach was hired away by UGA.

-Keeping Pasqualoni for a third year and then replacing him with Diaco. Diaco was brought in to help Warde Manuel win some press conferences. He was loud and eccentric but he and his staff were even worse than Pasqualoni's. Recruiting went completely into the toilet.

-New AD comes in, extends Diaco and then fires him. We end up limited on who we can hire because there isn't much left. He brings back Edsall, who clashed with Lashlee. Lashlee left after one season. Lashlee could have been the HC.... Edsall was brought back in because it was thought that he knew how to make UConn successful. Only on his first go round he had the Big East and the BCS to sell recruits. Now not so much.

-UConn FB will sink or swim as an independent. Recruiting appears to be having a slight uptick but it is very early. Scheduling Armageddon has been avoided. A TV deal is in place. If the program continues to fail then the school will have failed. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

-As for the AAC, I think UConn fans will enjoy playing against some of their former AAC foes. Excited to see Temple, and I would love a series with Cincy. Most UConn fans are really nostalgic for the Big East football conference. So games against Syracuse and Rutgers will be appealing.

That is a solid assessment. UConn so mismanaged the football program that it was doomed to have to undergo some kind of reset (whether that reset will work or not remains to be seen). Kevin Ollie tanking the basketball program after that natty didn't help either. While all the talk about moving to the Big East for travel cost savings and more historic rivals has some merit, I feel like it wasn’t the main reason for the move. I feel that our AD knew that the mismanagement and corresponding poor results of football all but eliminated us as a P5 call up. Do you go back to the Big East while you can or do you stay in the AAC and risk any (or all) of Cincy, Houston, Memphis, or UCF leaving for the P5 and leaving your basketball behind in a then watered down AAC? Seems like it was a decision that had to be made.
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Of all schools ECU felt the most betrayed by UCONN's departure. They left us vulnerable and afraid as now the worst football program in the league. We probably should sue them for emotional distress, alienation of affection, abuse, and satan worship.
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(06-16-2020 07:34 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  Of all schools ECU felt the most betrayed by UCONN's departure. They left us vulnerable and afraid as now the worst football program in the league. We probably should sue them for emotional distress, alienation of affection, abuse, and satan worship.
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(05-23-2020 01:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
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(05-22-2020 05:38 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The greatest irony about UConn’s betrayal is that if they had decided to desert the football side and depart with the Catholic 7 they would have been the 1 vote needed to disband the original Big East, screwing Cincinnati, USF, and all of the schools who were planning on joining as full members in 2013.

UConn and their basketball friends could have walked out with lots of cash and Cincinnati and USF wouldn’t have got the parting gifts from WVU, Pitt, Cuse, Rutgers, Louisville, and ND.

But didn't UConn get to split all that cash only three ways with only UC and USF?

I think splitting something three ways will give you more than splitting it 8 ways... I'm pretty sure about that.


SMU got some

Yeah, but UC, UConn and USF got the lion's share, right?

Yes they did. UConn made more $$ by staying than leaving. As they should, they did what was best for them, at the time. They did the same again when they left.
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(06-17-2020 07:02 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 01:48 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 01:32 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 01:20 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 05:38 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The greatest irony about UConn’s betrayal is that if they had decided to desert the football side and depart with the Catholic 7 they would have been the 1 vote needed to disband the original Big East, screwing Cincinnati, USF, and all of the schools who were planning on joining as full members in 2013.

UConn and their basketball friends could have walked out with lots of cash and Cincinnati and USF wouldn’t have got the parting gifts from WVU, Pitt, Cuse, Rutgers, Louisville, and ND.

But didn't UConn get to split all that cash only three ways with only UC and USF?

I think splitting something three ways will give you more than splitting it 8 ways... I'm pretty sure about that.


SMU got some

Yeah, but UC, UConn and USF got the lion's share, right?

Yes they did. UConn made more $$ by staying than leaving. As they should, they did what was best for them, at the time. They did the same again when they left.

But if they would have **** canned football and the expenses that came with it and left with the C7, would they be in less debt? Possibly have sustained basketball success a bit more? one wonders...
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