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RE: Democratic Party Official Admits to Stuffing Ballot Boxes in Philadelphia Elections
(05-22-2020 09:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 08:16 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 07:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 09:30 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  But we were told that voter fraud NEVER happens

1. Nobody here ever told you that...of course you can clear that up by posting a link.
2. This isn't even really voter fraud. This guy's not a voter here. He's an election official with access voters don't have who took money to pad numbers.
3. Lastly, there's nothing indicated in the information from the DOJ as to which candidates he padded the totals for...although you can assume they were all democrats.

Rather, what I and others have told you is that in person voter fraud rarely happens and even when it does, it does not happen in significant numbers enough to effect outcomes.

Lastly, before you go there, I'm not defending this guy. In fact, he should be sent away for a lot longer than he probably will be!

Which is precisely why ballot harvesting and vote by mail is such a rotten idea IF your goal is to have elections with as little fraud as possible.

I don't really disagree with any of that.

I'm glad we agree. I thought you were a supporter of what Pelosi and the rest of the Dem leadership in having vote by mail.
05-22-2020 09:57 AM
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RE: Democratic Party Official Admits to Stuffing Ballot Boxes in Philadelphia Elections
(05-22-2020 09:57 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 09:51 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 08:16 AM)miko33 Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 07:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 09:30 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  But we were told that voter fraud NEVER happens

1. Nobody here ever told you that...of course you can clear that up by posting a link.
2. This isn't even really voter fraud. This guy's not a voter here. He's an election official with access voters don't have who took money to pad numbers.
3. Lastly, there's nothing indicated in the information from the DOJ as to which candidates he padded the totals for...although you can assume they were all democrats.

Rather, what I and others have told you is that in person voter fraud rarely happens and even when it does, it does not happen in significant numbers enough to effect outcomes.

Lastly, before you go there, I'm not defending this guy. In fact, he should be sent away for a lot longer than he probably will be!

Which is precisely why ballot harvesting and vote by mail is such a rotten idea IF your goal is to have elections with as little fraud as possible.

I don't really disagree with any of that.

I'm glad we agree. I thought you were a supporter of what Pelosi and the rest of the Dem leadership in having vote by mail.

I do fully support an option to vote by mail. I'm not calling for it to be the preferred or only method, but it needs to be a viable option for anyone who truly wants/needs it. Additionally, in times of a public health crisis like this voters need that option to be safe while exercising their franchise.

TBH, I have paid NO attention at all to what Pelosi or the DNC wants.

But to that end, I fully support better methods all around to ensure that one person still only gets and mails in one ballot. I'm sure there are currently several states who do this quite well...but I would prefer a national system...or at least national guidelines or best practices.
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RE: Democratic Party Official Admits to Stuffing Ballot Boxes in Philadelphia Elections
(05-22-2020 08:34 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 07:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 09:30 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  But we were told that voter fraud NEVER happens

1. Nobody here ever told you that...of course you can clear that up by posting a link.
2. This isn't even really voter fraud. This guy's not a voter here. He's an election official with access voters don't have who took money to pad numbers.
3. Lastly, there's nothing indicated in the information from the DOJ as to which candidates he padded the totals for...although you can assume they were all democrats.

Rather, what I and others have told you is that in person voter fraud rarely happens and even when it does, it does not happen in significant numbers enough to effect outcomes.

Lastly, before you go there, I'm not defending this guy. In fact, he should be sent away for a lot longer than he probably will be!


Right

In person fraud rarely happens. So, comically, what’s the easiest way around that little hurdle?

Hey! How about mail in ballots instead?

C’mon. You’re not even really trying any more.

been tellin' ya guys he's a paid operative....ask him what he does for a living....just ask him....you're not on ignore...
05-22-2020 12:18 PM
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If republicans allow this, they deserve to lose.

05-22-2020 12:22 PM
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RE: Democratic Party Official Admits to Stuffing Ballot Boxes in Philadelphia Elections
(05-22-2020 09:50 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 08:16 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 07:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  2. This isn't even really voter fraud. This guy's not a voter here. He's an election official with access voters don't have who took money to pad numbers.

Wow...someone please let me see the dictionary that RWT uses.

This is "not" voter fraud?

There are times Tom when you make questionable statements.. and then there are times when you just jump in off the deep end.

As do you. Hence why I sad "isn't even really" and then went on to explain that this guy was not a voter. He's an election official manipulating results via his position as an elected official. Yes there was fraud, and yes vote totals were changed. Nobody is disputing that.

Bull$#!!.. play semantics all you want... Either it is fraud or it isn't. Just like there's no "Partially pregnant" .. this is either out and out voter fraud or it is isn't...

Guess which it is... (Or do we have to remind you of "pleading guility" in this article?)

I don't give a damn if he's not a voter, if he's an election official or if he's the ******* Speaker of the House...or the President of the g'damn Universe...

It's _FRAUD_.

But let's say I'll even let you defend you're "probably isn't" claim... Which part of the following is NOT voter fraud Tom?
  • pleaded guilty Thursday to stuffing ballot boxes in favor of Democratic candidates
  • by literally standing in a voting booth and voting over and over, as fast as he could, while he thought the coast was clear,”

Oh no, he was probably just voting for people who couldn't make it to the ballot box... yeah that's the next explanation of BS that's going to come out.

As for mail-in votes... Unless you're physically unable to make it to a voting booth for reasons of health or occupation... NO NO NO NO!!

Voting is your right, but you still have to do it within the confines of the rules and regulations set in place.

(hell, even anti-2A'ers shouldn't even have a problem with that .. they say we can only own guns under rules and regs in place.. then they try to make more rules and regs to narrow it down even further)
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RE: Democratic Party Official Admits to Stuffing Ballot Boxes
Can't remember if it was last Presidential election or in 2012. An international delegation came to the U.S. to observe the voting, going to a number of different states.

The delegates were astounded that a photo ID was not required in order to vote. Many of them said that in their (backwards, 3rd world) country, that was a requirement. They couldn't believe that this ONE thing that insured those who voted were who they said they were was not done in the USA.

As for proven election fraud cases, Heritage has some info. They said that "It does not capture all cases and certainly does not capture reported instances that are not investigated or prosecuted. It is intended to demonstrate the vulnerabilities in the election system and the many ways in which fraud is committed."

A Sampling of Recent Election Fraud Cases from Across the United States

Check it out. You can look state by state for the info.
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RE: Democratic Party Official Admits to Stuffing Ballot Boxes in Philadelphia Elections
(05-22-2020 07:07 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 09:30 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  But we were told that voter fraud NEVER happens

1. Nobody here ever told you that...of course you can clear that up by posting a link.
2. This isn't even really voter fraud. This guy's not a voter here. He's an election official with access voters don't have who took money to pad numbers.
3. Lastly, there's nothing indicated in the information from the DOJ as to which candidates he padded the totals for...although you can assume they were all democrats.

Rather, what I and others have told you is that in person voter fraud rarely happens and even when it does, it does not happen in significant numbers enough to effect outcomes.

Lastly, before you go there, I'm not defending this guy. In fact, he should be sent away for a lot longer than he probably will be!

Shut up CommieRed, just shut up. You're so full of shiate I'm surprised you survived the Toilet Paper shortage. You must have resorted to using the WashPo as TP.

I'm so sorry for you. You do know that it's not nice to abet wrong doing? If you're not the solution you become the problem.
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RE: Democratic Party Official Admits to Stuffing Ballot Boxes in Philadelphia Elections
Anybody can get and send a mail-in ballot any election they'd like. It's called absentee ballot. Been around forever.

Thing is, you have to affirmatively ask for the damn thing.

Apparently now even THAT is too much for the left.

By any means necessary I guess.
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I'm in awe of Mexico. To think that what people consider a third world country actually has Voter ID's and if I'm correct they are forced to vote (I'm not sure entirely on this point).

If and that's a big IF the Republicans win the House they should take it upon themselves to vote for Voter IDs. If a person needs an ID to receive Food Stamps and the like then they should be able to get a Voter ID. There's no excuse for not having one and the Demons only forbid it because they know they'd lose a LOT of elections because they'd be honest elections.
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