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This stream might technically last longer than Amash's candidacy.
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The emblem looks like one for Trumps golf clubs. His hair over a tee
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(05-21-2020 06:21 PM)shere khan Wrote:  The emblem looks like one for Trumps golf clubs. His hair over a tee

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Well that was an unmitigated train wreck.

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(05-22-2020 08:32 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Well that was an unmitigated train wreck.
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Yes it was, and the VP debate was if anything worse.

I cannot under any circumstances vote for Biden, I don't really want to vote for Trump, and the libertarians are not offering me much to choose from.

If Amash had 1) stayed in the race, and 2) not gone off the rails with his extended anti-Trump diatribe, he would have been an easy choice. Now it's hard for me to muster at least as much enthusiasm as I had for Gary Johnson after Aleppo about any of these candidates.

Of the candidates I saw, I think my preferred ticket would be two out of the three of Jorgensen, Monds, and Hornberger, but boy that was not an exciting bunch.

I think Amash was trying to appeal to never-Trump conservatives and build some kind of base there. But the never-Trumpers are neocons, at the other end of the scale from libertarians, and Trump is too libertarian for them, so they told him no thanks, and he had pretty much chopped the heads off any other support group.

While I'm talking about motives, my thoughts on Aleppo are that Johnson started out as the fair haired boy of the MSM because they thought he would take votes away from Trump. So his early interviews were softball tosses with a few jokes about weed. Then polls started showing that he would take away more Hillary voters, so all of a sudden the MSM decided to go gotcha. If you know how these interviews work, the producers have a pre-show brief with the interviewee and his handlers and they go over what will be covered and rule out any no-go areas. It's why Hillary or Obama never got hard questions about some things. So they go through the brief, Johnson is focused on what they discussed in the brief, and they drop Aleppo out of left field. And gotcha! If you can find it, the whole tone of that interview was totally different from the earlier interviews that he got when he was the MSM's secret weapon to ensure Hillary won.
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Does anybody know if Hornberger is any relation to Dallas tax lawyer Willie Hornberger? They're both originally from Texas, both went to TexasU law school, and it's not the most common surname, although it may be more common in German Texas.
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(05-22-2020 09:01 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  [Gary] Johnson started out as the fair haired boy of the MSM because they thought he would take votes away from Trump. So his early interviews were softball tosses with a few jokes about weed. Then polls started showing that he would take away more Hillary voters, so all of a sudden the MSM decided to go gotcha.
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What no love for Vermin Supreme or the guy who wants to outlaw pineapple on pizza or the guy that wants to shut down the entire government, turn the power over to Congress and be a custodian of the people?
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Hornberger is a firebrand. Jorgensen is more reasonable but lacks oratory punch. Monds is a straight-up bad orator.

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At this point, I have to say I’m leaning Trump. Biden is out of the question. I’ll reserve final judgment until I see what the 3rd parties have to offer, but at the moment what they’re offering seems bleak.
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(05-22-2020 09:44 AM)gdunn Wrote:  What no love for Vermin Supreme or the guy who wants to outlaw pineapple on pizza or the guy that wants to shut down the entire government, turn the power over to Congress and be a custodian of the people?

I hate to say it but he is as good or bad as the rest of them. They are all awful. Where are the Harry Browne's today?
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(05-22-2020 09:28 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Does anybody know if Hornberger is any relation to Dallas tax lawyer Willie Hornberger? They're both originally from Texas, both went to TexasU law school, and it's not the most common surname, although it may be more common in German Texas.

did you just have lunch with Dallas tax lawyer Willie Hornberger? maybe his sister?

or do we all have yet another thread to avoid in the event that this guy somehow becomes prominent?
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(05-22-2020 03:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 09:44 AM)gdunn Wrote:  What no love for Vermin Supreme or the guy who wants to outlaw pineapple on pizza or the guy that wants to shut down the entire government, turn the power over to Congress and be a custodian of the people?

I hate to say it but he is as good or bad as the rest of them. They are all awful. Where are the Harry Browne's today?

if one is not electable, why not just run into an inanimate object, or toss lawn Jarts into the mirror...the end result will always be the same...
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(05-22-2020 07:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 03:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 09:44 AM)gdunn Wrote:  What no love for Vermin Supreme or the guy who wants to outlaw pineapple on pizza or the guy that wants to shut down the entire government, turn the power over to Congress and be a custodian of the people?

I hate to say it but he is as good or bad as the rest of them. They are all awful. Where are the Harry Browne's today?

if one is not electable, why not just run into an inanimate object, or toss lawn Jarts into the mirror...the end result will always be the same...

because those inanimate objects always bark back at you.

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(05-22-2020 07:18 PM)EagleX Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 07:04 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 03:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 09:44 AM)gdunn Wrote:  What no love for Vermin Supreme or the guy who wants to outlaw pineapple on pizza or the guy that wants to shut down the entire government, turn the power over to Congress and be a custodian of the people?

I hate to say it but he is as good or bad as the rest of them. They are all awful. Where are the Harry Browne's today?

if one is not electable, why not just run into an inanimate object, or toss lawn Jarts into the mirror...the end result will always be the same...

because those inanimate objects always bark back at you.

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I am watching the live stream of the placing names into nomination ---- all done via a massive zoom session.

I am fairly impressed how they are doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcD_q4kvp_c

Edited to add: they are using someone with a physical 20 sided die to determine the order in which the top 5 token gainers will address the convention.

Apparently the candidate whose policy is 'ZOMBIE PREPAREDNESS AND THE PONY BASED ECONOMY' was third in the number of nominating tokens --- calls himself Vermin Supreme and he wears a wizard hat.
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(05-23-2020 12:39 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I am watching the live stream of the placing names into nomination ---- all done via a massive zoom session.

I am fairly impressed how they are doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcD_q4kvp_c

Edited to add: they are using someone with a physical 20 sided die to determine the order in which the top 5 token gainers will address the convention.

Apparently the candidate whose policy is 'ZOMBIE PREPAREDNESS AND THE PONY BASED ECONOMY' was third in the number of nominating tokens --- calls himself Vermin Supreme and he wears a wizard hat.

which I am certain will equate to posts on #muhVidalpage....

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(05-23-2020 12:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 12:39 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I am watching the live stream of the placing names into nomination ---- all done via a massive zoom session.

I am fairly impressed how they are doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcD_q4kvp_c

Edited to add: they are using someone with a physical 20 sided die to determine the order in which the top 5 token gainers will address the convention.

Apparently the candidate whose policy is 'ZOMBIE PREPAREDNESS AND THE PONY BASED ECONOMY' was third in the number of nominating tokens --- calls himself Vermin Supreme and he wears a wizard hat.


which I am certain will equate to posts on #muhVidalpage....

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Stink -- hopefully you would LOVE Vermin's campaign swag as much as I am in awe of it (I think it brilliant):

This stuff is as inspired as the Kinky Friedman for Governor swag --- that was so good I bought that when living in CA.

'TEXAS LOVES THE KINK'

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(05-23-2020 12:59 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 12:55 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 12:39 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  I am watching the live stream of the placing names into nomination ---- all done via a massive zoom session.

I am fairly impressed how they are doing this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcD_q4kvp_c

Edited to add: they are using someone with a physical 20 sided die to determine the order in which the top 5 token gainers will address the convention.

Apparently the candidate whose policy is 'ZOMBIE PREPAREDNESS AND THE PONY BASED ECONOMY' was third in the number of nominating tokens --- calls himself Vermin Supreme and he wears a wizard hat.


which I am certain will equate to posts on #muhVidalpage....

@gothedistance

Stink -- hopefully you would LOVE Vermin's campaign swag as much as I am in awe of it (I think it brilliant):

This stuff is as inspired as the Kinky Friedman for Governor swag --- that was so good I bought that when living in CA.

'TEXAS LOVES THE KINK'

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lmmfao...your sig is #perfecto sans 100% agave... 03-wink

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As Milton Friedman once said, "I am a libertarian with a small 'l' and a Republican with a capital 'R'. And I am a Republican with a capital 'R' on grounds of expediency, not on principle.”

Philosophically I am libertarian, but the tent is so wide it brings in the freak show. I just can't....
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