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RE: MAC Realignment?
(06-28-2020 10:37 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(06-28-2020 08:52 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  It's getting harder with the old Big East splitting into two multi-bid conferences for those at-large bids.

Yes, the timeline of those A-10 bids has the tale of the tape on that front as well.

It's not an easy climb ... finding that first coach that can recruit and game day coach up a program and wants to stay and build rather than take the bigger money offer when it comes along, that is stumbling across a winning lottery ticket lying on the street.

But building up the basketball side of the conference offers a more workable goal to work to than hoping to land a basketball school that on it's own will upgrade conference basketball while also for some mysterious reason wish to leave it's current, likely stronger, basketball conference.

100% agree and thought Jon Steinbrecher's BB plan from around 8 years ago was very good, even-thou seen some post not liking it and remember parts of it. Schedule more home games and games that help the RPI. The later really forget what he exactly said and was more complicated along with an incentive of a slightly un-equal distribution of NCAA Credits.
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RE: MAC Realignment?
(06-28-2020 02:33 PM)Steve1981 Wrote:  
(06-28-2020 10:37 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(06-28-2020 08:52 AM)Steve1981 Wrote:  It's getting harder with the old Big East splitting into two multi-bid conferences for those at-large bids.

Yes, the timeline of those A-10 bids has the tale of the tape on that front as well.

It's not an easy climb ... finding that first coach that can recruit and game day coach up a program and wants to stay and build rather than take the bigger money offer when it comes along, that is stumbling across a winning lottery ticket lying on the street.

But building up the basketball side of the conference offers a more workable goal to work to than hoping to land a basketball school that on it's own will upgrade conference basketball while also for some mysterious reason wish to leave it's current, likely stronger, basketball conference.

100% agree and thought Jon Steinbrecher's BB plan from around 8 years ago was very good, even-thou seen some post not liking it and remember parts of it. Schedule more home games and games that help the RPI. The later really forget what he exactly said and was more complicated along with an incentive of a slightly un-equal distribution of NCAA Credits.

MAC distribution is fairly unequal but the bottom teams at least get 1/3rd of the annual basketball fund payout.

A10 is really unequal to the point where only the top teams play each other from the prior year. For that reason its almost like its 2 conferences in one. Talking to SLU fans that is one of the reasons why they feel "fat dumb and happy" in the A10 because of that inequality.

The WCC did have equal distribution until quite recently when Gonzaga threatened a move to the MWC if they didn't make it an unequal distribution.

With the unequal distribution on basketball money what mid major conference you play in means less than what it ever did before since you could dominate it and take on the basketball revenue for yourself.
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RE: MAC Realignment?
I'm pretty sure the MAC has an equal distribution, at least for the auto-bid tourney credit. Teams that earn additional credits by winning a game or 2 should IMO receive 25%-50% of those credits with the conference splitting the remainder. Not doing that just promotes freeloading. You saw that in the WCC for years. Schools like Portland, Loyola Marymount, and Pacific pocketed the money Gonzaga brought in without reinvesting in their program.
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RE: MAC Realignment?
All I could find from a quick good search was an announcement in 2018 of a modestly unequal payment, paying 30% of the units earned from NCAA tourney wins to the schools that earned it for the two years after the win. There are also NET oriented bonuses for Q1 and Q2 wins, which I assume are taken out of the NCAA unit revenue, which replace the previous RPI oriented bonuses for out of conference winning percentage.

30% on two years per win nets out as 0% per appearance for a one and out and 5% per appearance for a 1-1 performance. I'd crank that bonus for winning appearances up to more like 50% the first three years, 25% the last three years, for 37.5% overall per winning appearance, and still give bonuses out of the autobid, maybe 15% to tournament champion and 10% to regular season champion.
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RE: MAC Realignment?
(06-30-2020 12:28 PM)kreed5120 Wrote:  I'm pretty sure the MAC has an equal distribution, at least for the auto-bid tourney credit.

No it was adjusted after Ohio's sweet 16 to provide more incentive.
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