(09-29-2020 04:44 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  I wonder if we are going to start seeing more and more non-P5 schools dropping to the minimum of 14 just to cut down some of the excess.

That should read non-FBS schools, not non-P5 schools.

"FBS schools must sponsor 16 sports and award 200 or more scholarships across those sports. They must award 90% of the 85 scholarships in football and cannot split scholarships."

(09-29-2020 04:41 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(09-29-2020 01:48 PM)HatterFan Wrote:  effective next summer, La Salle is cutting baseball, softball, volleyball, men's swimming/diving, men's water polo, men's and women's tennis. This takes them from 25 sports down to 18, a similar sort of reduction to what we saw from GW and W&M.

https://goexplorers.com/news/2020/9/29/g...unity.aspx

Yikes! Why were they sponsoring so many sports in the first place?

Most of them weren't anywhere in the galaxy of fully funded scholarship-wise or operationally competitive with their A10 peers, but in these rough waters, "low budget" is still too much cash to spend.

This LaSalle move is strange to me. Seems like they are dropping things that don’t cost much and with just small/partial scholarships actually bring in students who wouldn’t go to LaSalle otherwise. Something like waterpolo probably never travels more than a few hours from campus in an area like Philly. They already have the facilities that will still be maintained.

Some of this seems to be poorly managing the athletics they have rather than offering too many.

Now, the conference sports like baseball and softball that have required travel built in is a little different. Makes St Louis look like a poor choice in a conference mate.

(09-30-2020 02:30 AM)Todor Wrote:  This LaSalle move is strange to me. Seems like they are dropping things that don’t cost much and with just small/partial scholarships actually bring in students who wouldn’t go to LaSalle otherwise.

Past Baseball/Softball, which will have a substantial hard money cost saving on the travel cost side, the rest seem a lot like saving some coaches salaries in those sports in order to avoid cutting sports that attract more alumni support.

(09-30-2020 07:38 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 02:30 AM)Todor Wrote:  This LaSalle move is strange to me. Seems like they are dropping things that don’t cost much and with just small/partial scholarships actually bring in students who wouldn’t go to LaSalle otherwise.

Past Baseball/Softball, which will have a substantial hard money cost saving on the travel cost side, the rest seem a lot like saving some coaches salaries in those sports in order to avoid cutting sports that attract more alumni support.

Volleyball is headcount. Full scholarships. Usually that's one sport which is protected. LaSalle's only the second school to drop it.

(09-30-2020 11:46 AM)jdgaucho Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 07:38 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(09-30-2020 02:30 AM)Todor Wrote:  This LaSalle move is strange to me. Seems like they are dropping things that don’t cost much and with just small/partial scholarships actually bring in students who wouldn’t go to LaSalle otherwise.

Past Baseball/Softball, which will have a substantial hard money cost saving on the travel cost side, the rest seem a lot like saving some coaches salaries in those sports in order to avoid cutting sports that attract more alumni support.

Volleyball is headcount. Full scholarships. Usually that's one sport which is protected. LaSalle's only the second school to drop it.

Women's Tennis is also headcount, but a number of schools have dropped it, as a package of dropping both Men and Women's Tennis.

With women's soccer, LAX, field hockey and water polo, LaSalle had the flexibility to drop two women's team sport that a lot of schools do not have.

(09-30-2020 02:30 AM)Todor Wrote:  This LaSalle move is strange to me. Seems like they are dropping things that don’t cost much and with just small/partial scholarships actually bring in students who wouldn’t go to LaSalle otherwise. Something like waterpolo probably never travels more than a few hours from campus in an area like Philly. They already have the facilities that will still be maintained.

LaSalle is in a serious credit crunch. They have $80 million in endowment versus $145 million of debt. Ironically, their debt was downgraded the same day that made this announcement.

https://www.bondbuyer.com/news/downgrade...t-struggle

I didn’t know LaSalle was that poor. Very small endowment for a school that old and its size. But in Philly, they are a definite bottom feeder in terms of prestige and desirability.

Fresno State's now on the list. They are cutting wrestling, lacrosse and men's tennis at the end of the '20-'21 school year.

https://gobulldogs.com/news/2020/10/16/g...anges.aspx

(10-16-2020 04:16 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Fresno State's now on the list. They are cutting wrestling, lacrosse and men's tennis at the end of the '20-'21 school year.

https://gobulldogs.com/news/2020/10/16/g...anges.aspx

down to FBS minimum 6 men's sports; Fresno dropping women's lacrosse leaves only 2 non Pac-12 programs on the West Coast: UC Davis & San Diego State.

Damn that sucks that another Wrestling program is gone

(10-16-2020 04:49 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Damn that sucks that another Wrestling program is gone

They may soon have to bring up Division II programs to have enough teams.

(10-16-2020 06:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-16-2020 04:49 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Damn that sucks that another Wrestling program is gone

They may soon have to bring up Division II programs to have enough teams.

Wrestling seems like it would be a really cheap sport .

(10-17-2020 08:22 AM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  

(10-16-2020 06:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-16-2020 04:49 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Damn that sucks that another Wrestling program is gone

They may soon have to bring up Division II programs to have enough teams.

Wrestling seems like it would be a really cheap sport .

Probably why it’s dropped. There isn’t much investment lost if they choose to remove it.

(10-17-2020 08:22 AM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  

(10-16-2020 06:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-16-2020 04:49 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Damn that sucks that another Wrestling program is gone

They may soon have to bring up Division II programs to have enough teams.

Wrestling seems like it would be a really cheap sport .

I remember reading it was the 2nd most dangerous sport after gymnastics. Lots of concussions.

But mainly its a men's sport that requires a fairly large squad so its an easy one to cut if you are trying to comply with Title IX.

(10-17-2020 09:01 AM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(10-17-2020 08:22 AM)CoastalVANDAL Wrote:  

(10-16-2020 06:42 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(10-16-2020 04:49 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  Damn that sucks that another Wrestling program is gone

They may soon have to bring up Division II programs to have enough teams.

Wrestling seems like it would be a really cheap sport .

Probably why it’s dropped. There isn’t much investment lost if they choose to remove it.

Except Fresno brought it back in 2018 (I think they previously dropped wrestling in 2006) only to cut it again in 2020.

Michigan State will cut men's and women's swimming/diving at year's end.

https://msuspartans.com/news/2020/10/22/...-2021.aspx

The biggest loser in this round of dropping sports is going to be the USA Olympic program.

Kansas City (fka UMKC) takes advantage of the 1-year waiver of minimum sports sponsorship requirements to suspend literally half its athletic department for the remainder of the school year. 7 of their 14 sports will not attempt to compete.

https://kcroos.com/news/2020/10/22/gener...grams.aspx

W&M has reinstated all cut sports for the time being