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RE: Georgia and LSU in 2022 & 2023
(05-19-2020 08:04 PM)blazr Wrote:  We’d have half our roster beat up playing non-conf games. The Boise and Gonzaga (and maybe UCF) formula is simple even if it does take time: dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity, win some bowl games v P5, recruits start considering you (and you can offer immediate PT), then P5 teams are looking to play you to keep those recruits away and even, possible, for paydays at neutral fields (everybody loves the underdog).

We’re in the “dominate CUSA” phase (then maybe the “dominate something else” phase). Winning another CUSA West crown & Champ Game (to wish LF goodbye) will be more meaningful and advance our cause more than a win v Miami (though that would be icing on the cake) even if it doesn’t seem so now.

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(05-19-2020 04:01 PM)UABDB23 Wrote:  I feel that if we want to be an elite program we need to schedule elite teams, whenever and wherever.

Just simply scheduling these games against elite competition isn't going to cut it. We need to win one of these games at some point or be competitive if we lose if we want to be taken seriously as a football program.
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RE: Georgia and LSU in 2022 & 2023
(05-19-2020 08:04 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 04:01 PM)UABDB23 Wrote:  I have a very different opinion on scheduling than many do on this board. I feel that if we want to be an elite program we need to schedule elite teams, whenever and wherever. If we wish to move up in the college football world we need to play better opponents. Last year our program seemed to downplay the Tenn game. I don’t understand that. recruits, AAC and fans take notice when you play (and sometimes beat) teams like that. We must have a stronger schedule if we wish to become a stronger program. If we must play two power 5 top tier teams on the road a year so be it.


We’d have half our roster beat up playing non-conf games. The Boise and Gonzaga (and maybe UCF) formula is simple even if it does take time: dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity, win some bowl games v P5, recruits start considering you (and you can offer immediate PT), then P5 teams are looking to play you to keep those recruits away and even, possible, for paydays at neutral fields (everybody loves the underdog).

We’re in the “dominate CUSA” phase (then maybe the “dominate something else” phase). Winning another CUSA West crown & Champ Game (to wish LF goodbye) will be more meaningful and advance our cause more than a win v Miami (though that would be icing on the cake) even if it doesn’t seem so now.


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We aren’t dominating anything until we at least get through the west unscathed. We also can’t take CCG losses like we did last year. We may be heading in the right direction, but we are far from a separate entity in CUSA at the moment.
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If we want to be the next Boise we have to win our conference repeatedly. We also need to win some OOC games that we're not supposed to. Beating up on some of the weakest schedules in football is nice for our W/L record, but it won't gain the respect we want.
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Clark is turning up the heat on the team by scheduling up. Time to win some of these bigger games. None of the P5 games since the return have been as competitive as the Mi$$ St game in Clarks first year. I think weve struggled a bit in recruiting the past two years and I suspect the weak schedules didnt help.
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(05-19-2020 09:46 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 08:04 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 04:01 PM)UABDB23 Wrote:  I have a very different opinion on scheduling than many do on this board. I feel that if we want to be an elite program we need to schedule elite teams, whenever and wherever. If we wish to move up in the college football world we need to play better opponents. Last year our program seemed to downplay the Tenn game. I don’t understand that. recruits, AAC and fans take notice when you play (and sometimes beat) teams like that. We must have a stronger schedule if we wish to become a stronger program. If we must play two power 5 top tier teams on the road a year so be it.


We’d have half our roster beat up playing non-conf games. The Boise and Gonzaga (and maybe UCF) formula is simple even if it does take time: dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity, win some bowl games v P5, recruits start considering you (and you can offer immediate PT), then P5 teams are looking to play you to keep those recruits away and even, possible, for paydays at neutral fields (everybody loves the underdog).

We’re in the “dominate CUSA” phase (then maybe the “dominate something else” phase). Winning another CUSA West crown & Champ Game (to wish LF goodbye) will be more meaningful and advance our cause more than a win v Miami (though that would be icing on the cake) even if it doesn’t seem so now.


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We aren’t dominating anything until we at least get through the west unscathed. We also can’t take CCG losses like we did last year. We may be heading in the right direction, but we are far from a separate entity in CUSA at the moment.

You're right. Hence, Step 1: "dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity"

Gotta get Step 1 complete.
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RE: Georgia and LSU in 2022 & 2023
(05-19-2020 11:53 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:46 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 08:04 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 04:01 PM)UABDB23 Wrote:  I have a very different opinion on scheduling than many do on this board. I feel that if we want to be an elite program we need to schedule elite teams, whenever and wherever. If we wish to move up in the college football world we need to play better opponents. Last year our program seemed to downplay the Tenn game. I don’t understand that. recruits, AAC and fans take notice when you play (and sometimes beat) teams like that. We must have a stronger schedule if we wish to become a stronger program. If we must play two power 5 top tier teams on the road a year so be it.


We’d have half our roster beat up playing non-conf games. The Boise and Gonzaga (and maybe UCF) formula is simple even if it does take time: dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity, win some bowl games v P5, recruits start considering you (and you can offer immediate PT), then P5 teams are looking to play you to keep those recruits away and even, possible, for paydays at neutral fields (everybody loves the underdog).

We’re in the “dominate CUSA” phase (then maybe the “dominate something else” phase). Winning another CUSA West crown & Champ Game (to wish LF goodbye) will be more meaningful and advance our cause more than a win v Miami (though that would be icing on the cake) even if it doesn’t seem so now.


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We aren’t dominating anything until we at least get through the west unscathed. We also can’t take CCG losses like we did last year. We may be heading in the right direction, but we are far from a separate entity in CUSA at the moment.

You're right. Hence, Step 1: "dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity"

Gotta get Step 1 complete.

I agree. We need to absolutely dominate CUSA.
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(05-20-2020 06:34 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 11:53 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:46 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 08:04 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 04:01 PM)UABDB23 Wrote:  I have a very different opinion on scheduling than many do on this board. I feel that if we want to be an elite program we need to schedule elite teams, whenever and wherever. If we wish to move up in the college football world we need to play better opponents. Last year our program seemed to downplay the Tenn game. I don’t understand that. recruits, AAC and fans take notice when you play (and sometimes beat) teams like that. We must have a stronger schedule if we wish to become a stronger program. If we must play two power 5 top tier teams on the road a year so be it.

We’d have half our roster beat up playing non-conf games. The Boise and Gonzaga (and maybe UCF) formula is simple even if it does take time: dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity, win some bowl games v P5, recruits start considering you (and you can offer immediate PT), then P5 teams are looking to play you to keep those recruits away and even, possible, for paydays at neutral fields (everybody loves the underdog).

We’re in the “dominate CUSA” phase (then maybe the “dominate something else” phase). Winning another CUSA West crown & Champ Game (to wish LF goodbye) will be more meaningful and advance our cause more than a win v Miami (though that would be icing on the cake) even if it doesn’t seem so now.


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We aren’t dominating anything until we at least get through the west unscathed. We also can’t take CCG losses like we did last year. We may be heading in the right direction, but we are far from a separate entity in CUSA at the moment.

You're right. Hence, Step 1: "dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity"

Gotta get Step 1 complete.

I agree. We need to absolutely dominate CUSA.

If we're going to dominate CUSA, we need to improve our recruiting. Clark is great at getting more from less but eventually we need to create more separation from the rest of the league talent-wise too.
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(05-20-2020 06:46 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 06:34 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 11:53 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:46 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 08:04 PM)blazr Wrote:  We’d have half our roster beat up playing non-conf games. The Boise and Gonzaga (and maybe UCF) formula is simple even if it does take time: dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity, win some bowl games v P5, recruits start considering you (and you can offer immediate PT), then P5 teams are looking to play you to keep those recruits away and even, possible, for paydays at neutral fields (everybody loves the underdog).

We’re in the “dominate CUSA” phase (then maybe the “dominate something else” phase). Winning another CUSA West crown & Champ Game (to wish LF goodbye) will be more meaningful and advance our cause more than a win v Miami (though that would be icing on the cake) even if it doesn’t seem so now.


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We aren’t dominating anything until we at least get through the west unscathed. We also can’t take CCG losses like we did last year. We may be heading in the right direction, but we are far from a separate entity in CUSA at the moment.

You're right. Hence, Step 1: "dominate your conf so much that you almost become a separate entity"

Gotta get Step 1 complete.

I agree. We need to absolutely dominate CUSA.

If we're going to dominate CUSA, we need to improve our recruiting. Clark is great at getting more from less but eventually we need to create more separation from the rest of the league talent-wise too.

Sometimes I think people here forget or just don’t understand the long lasting effects shutting down the program caused. Other than the benefit we got by being able to offer extended eligibility to judos and transfers we took a multi year recruiting hit. After three successful years the stigma is largely gone with high school recruits but it takes years to recover from the talent loss
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