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Ultimate SEC expansion survey
The link below is a google survey I created on SEC expansion. Please feel free to complete it and if you want to share it on other message boards that get a lot of SEC fan traffic I’d appreciate it.

I’m hoping this will yield some great data on fan preference

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQ...sp=sf_link
05-19-2020 10:16 AM
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(05-19-2020 10:16 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The link below is a google survey I created on SEC expansion. Please feel free to complete it and if you want to share it on other message boards that get a lot of SEC fan traffic I’d appreciate it.

I’m hoping this will yield some great data on fan preference

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQ...sp=sf_link

I wouldn't want to add anyone. But if you do add, it depends on how many you add. The key would be to keep the 10 team core together as much as possible. If you add 4, you would want them from the west. If you add 10, you would want them from the east.
05-19-2020 10:26 AM
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RE: Ultimate SEC expansion survey
If any responses look weird, it's mine. I chose Texas and Oklahoma as my top two but needed to pick a "fanbase" so I chose my favorite SEC school, Florida. I guess if I were a real Florida fan, should I have chosen FSU #1 or would I want to keep them out?
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RE: Ultimate SEC expansion survey
THE best get for the SEC is UNC and UVA

But that’s not super realistic

The best REALISTIC get for the SEC is OU and KU

-Strips the B12 of its top blue blood FB and BB teams
-Adds another AAU school
-Adds much needed MBB power to SEC line up
-Adds a population boost the size of Massachusetts to footprint
-Solidifies control of DFW and KC markets
-No massive egos or undesirable political tagalongs

All that said, I don’t see expansion beyond 14 as especially likely for anyone
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RE: Ultimate SEC expansion survey
Am I the only one who can't open the link without an error?

Am I an idiot? Sure! I'm just not sure if that's the problem or something else?
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If the SEC can't expand into Virginia or North Carolina, go north. Grab Cincy for a foothold in populous Ohio.
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RE: Ultimate SEC expansion survey
(05-19-2020 11:35 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  THE best get for the SEC is UNC and UVA

But that’s not super realistic

The best REALISTIC get for the SEC is OU and KU

-Strips the B12 of its top blue blood FB and BB teams
-Adds another AAU school
-Adds much needed MBB power to SEC line up
-Adds a population boost the size of Massachusetts to footprint
-Solidifies control of DFW and KC markets
-No massive egos or undesirable political tagalongs

All that said, I don’t see expansion beyond 14 as especially likely for anyone

I think 16 is a good place to work towards. My only issue with 14 is that it's always been a bit clunky whereas 16 gives you a little more flexibility with how you work the schedule because everything is divisible by 4.

Oklahoma and Kansas work for me.

I would say it's realistic though because unless ESPN or another network is willing to dump a ton of extra money into the Big 12, Oklahoma especially is going to want out even though they'd probably rather keep the Big 12 together.
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RE: Ultimate SEC expansion survey
(05-19-2020 10:16 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The link below is a google survey I created on SEC expansion. Please feel free to complete it and if you want to share it on other message boards that get a lot of SEC fan traffic I’d appreciate it.

I’m hoping this will yield some great data on fan preference

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQ...sp=sf_link

You should modify Question 3 so as to not require someone to make 10 picks. I just wanted to submit 2 selections and hit submit, but it kicked it back and said I had to pick all 10, so I gave up and left the survey.
05-19-2020 01:45 PM
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(05-19-2020 11:35 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  THE best get for the SEC is UNC and UVA

But that’s not super realistic

The best REALISTIC get for the SEC is OU and KU

-Strips the B12 of its top blue blood FB and BB teams
-Adds another AAU school
-Adds much needed MBB power to SEC line up
-Adds a population boost the size of Massachusetts to footprint
-Solidifies control of DFW and KC markets
-No massive egos or undesirable political tagalongs

All that said, I don’t see expansion beyond 14 as especially likely for anyone

Having a future wife and in-laws that are all Hog fans with season tickets for FB and BB and living here in Fayetteville, I wouldn't mind seeing Kansas coming to town for basketball. The UK games are raucous...it's actually a little surprising to me, but I actually think Arkansas fans are more rabid about basketball than football, even when the FB team is good.

Then UT or OU for football would be swell. I don't know why Arkansas has such little history with OU and hasn't played OSU in 40 years.
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RE: Ultimate SEC expansion survey
(05-19-2020 01:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 10:16 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The link below is a google survey I created on SEC expansion. Please feel free to complete it and if you want to share it on other message boards that get a lot of SEC fan traffic I’d appreciate it.

I’m hoping this will yield some great data on fan preference

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQ...sp=sf_link

You should modify Question 3 so as to not require someone to make 10 picks. I just wanted to submit 2 selections and hit submit, but it kicked it back and said I had to pick all 10, so I gave up and left the survey.

Yes. I went ahead and picked 10, but it would be a lot easier for us to pick 2. It may be better for your data results, also.

Otherwise, it's a good survey. Good idea.
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(05-19-2020 11:49 AM)cubucks Wrote:  Am I the only one who can't open the link without an error?

Am I an idiot? Sure! I'm just not sure if that's the problem or something else?

Try copying and pasting it. Maybe something is wrong with the hyperlink
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(05-19-2020 02:21 PM)johnintx Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 01:45 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 10:16 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  The link below is a google survey I created on SEC expansion. Please feel free to complete it and if you want to share it on other message boards that get a lot of SEC fan traffic I’d appreciate it.

I’m hoping this will yield some great data on fan preference

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQ...sp=sf_link

You should modify Question 3 so as to not require someone to make 10 picks. I just wanted to submit 2 selections and hit submit, but it kicked it back and said I had to pick all 10, so I gave up and left the survey.

Yes. I went ahead and picked 10, but it would be a lot easier for us to pick 2. It may be better for your data results, also.

Otherwise, it's a good survey. Good idea.

I can’t take full credit for it. Georgia Tech Swagger posted a thread last month regarding reshuffling the membership of C-USA and the SBC to create more regional friendly conferences. I thought it be interesting to see what the fan bases of some P5s thought regarding schools joining their conference.

I wanted folks to rank their top 10 even if their preference was just adding 2 just to see what the feelings were regarding different schools.
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(05-19-2020 02:00 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 11:35 AM)10thMountain Wrote:  THE best get for the SEC is UNC and UVA

But that’s not super realistic

The best REALISTIC get for the SEC is OU and KU

-Strips the B12 of its top blue blood FB and BB teams
-Adds another AAU school
-Adds much needed MBB power to SEC line up
-Adds a population boost the size of Massachusetts to footprint
-Solidifies control of DFW and KC markets
-No massive egos or undesirable political tagalongs

All that said, I don’t see expansion beyond 14 as especially likely for anyone

Having a future wife and in-laws that are all Hog fans with season tickets for FB and BB and living here in Fayetteville, I wouldn't mind seeing Kansas coming to town for basketball. The UK games are raucous...it's actually a little surprising to me, but I actually think Arkansas fans are more rabid about basketball than football, even when the FB team is good.

Then UT or OU for football would be swell. I don't know why Arkansas has such little history with OU and hasn't played OSU in 40 years.

Hog games in Bud Walton are an amazing atmosphere if you’ve never been. Hoping Buzz Williams has our basketball team winning again soon so we can be competitive with them on the basketball side of the rivalry and as you said, would love to see KU visiting Reed again, always a huge ructions crowd for a big name like KU
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(05-19-2020 02:22 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 11:49 AM)cubucks Wrote:  Am I the only one who can't open the link without an error?

Am I an idiot? Sure! I'm just not sure if that's the problem or something else?

Try copying and pasting it. Maybe something is wrong with the hyperlink

cubucks, make sure you are logged in to your Google account. If you are not logged in, Google apps will not work for you.
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There is an option to choose no SEC school and identify as a fan of "none of these teams". I'm not partial to any SEC school.

I'm for any combination of Oklahoma/Oklahoma State, Oklahoma/Texas, or Oklahoma/Kansas. I filled out the other lines with various combinations of ACC schools.
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I'm for staying at 14. I personally think 14 is as big as a conference can get. I'd prefer 9 conference games per conference but giving schools the freedom to schedule any ooc games they want. I'm one of the few who like FBS-FCS games no matter when they are scheduled.
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(05-19-2020 05:09 PM)bigblueblindness Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 02:22 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 11:49 AM)cubucks Wrote:  Am I the only one who can't open the link without an error?

Am I an idiot? Sure! I'm just not sure if that's the problem or something else?

Try copying and pasting it. Maybe something is wrong with the hyperlink

cubucks, make sure you are logged in to your Google account. If you are not logged in, Google apps will not work for you.
Thanks guys!
I've just confirmed the idiot part previously mentioned.
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Just filled not out

Personally prefer 14
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If any one is on other SEC message boards, fb groups etc. feel free to share the link. The more results the better.

When GTS did this with the SBC/C-USA there were over 800 responses. For a statistician, that’s awesome.

I look forward to sharing the data you all helped provide once we have a big enough data set.

Interesting that there hasn’t been a Missouri or Vanderbilt fan yet.
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If the SEC must expand, please look west. There are lots of fine candidates in Texas and the midlands.

Be kind to the ACC.
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