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Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
She has been commisioner since 2015 and the conference has consistently regressed. Is it a case of the preseidents not wanting to admit they made a bad hire? How many presidents are still around since the hire? Do we have a bunch of presidents that don't think we can do any better as a conference? What would it hurt to give someone else a shot? It couldn't get much worse. Do these "academics" not want to fire her because she is a woman and that would look bad diversity wise? If this conference was being run like a business she would jave never been hired and if she was she would have been fired a few years ago. Why not hire a TV exec like the AAC did? Instead we hired a university administrator from Tulsa.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
(05-18-2020 09:08 PM)MT FAN Wrote:  She has been commisioner since 2015 and the conference has consistently regressed. Is it a case of the preseidents not wanting to admit they made a bad hire? How many presidents are still around since the hire? Do we have a bunch of presidents that don't think we can do any better as a conference? What would it hurt to give someone else a shot? It couldn't get much worse. Do these "academics" not want to fire her because she is a woman and that would look bad diversity wise? If this conference was being run like a business she would jave never been hired and if she was she would have been fired a few years ago. Why not hire a TV exec like the AAC did? Instead we hired a university administrator from Tulsa.

If a CEO ran their corporation the way Judy has run C-USA, they would be put in jail. 07-coffee3
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
Is she actually alive? Haven't seen her for a while.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
Five years is plenty of time. That means it is time for new blood. Shouldn't be that hard to find an up-and-coming assistant commissioner ready to perform at least as well as Judy.
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clt says we have a few”fire Judy “banners that you can borrow.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
It’s not The fault of the commissioner that the members of the conference suck. That’s the fault of the universities. Open a food truck selling dog $*** tacos and see if people buy. CUSA has regressed because of the members not preforming.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
(05-19-2020 09:08 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  It’s not The fault of the commissioner that the members of the conference suck. That’s the fault of the universities. Open a food truck selling dog $*** tacos and see if people buy. CUSA has regressed because of the members not preforming.

You are 100% correct on the why but even selling dog crap Judy doubled the payout from the first contract. Could someone else did better? I dont know but here are the facts.

CUSA as a conference screwed espn and signed with Fox. That's a fact. Another fact, when Fox started signing P5 content. CUSA was not needed by Fox.

Judy had very little to work with when she came in. Fox was out of the picture because they signed higher profile content

espn wanted no part because CUSA screwed them over after they agreed on a contract.

So two of the three players was out of the picture and that left CBSSN. While they wanted the CUSA championship games. They did not need as many other games. Why? espn had so much content they sold games to CBSSN cheaper than it would have cost them to buy CUSA. With the same ratings.

So not only was Judy selling dog crap the leftovers from CUSA 2.0 were playing worse than dog crap. ...no value. If there was value CBS would have paid for it. So she cobbled together what was left...internet streaming. CUSA was the first guinea pig for streaming. This was in a short period of time.

After 2 years Judy doubled the money which is still not great but $400k. And almost every game played in CUSA can be viewed from your livingroom. As a fan you are having it better than anytime in your schools history...

able to watch more games sitting on the couch. This conference message board is made up of cheap ass fans. Fans that complain about paying $5 a month or even $10 a month to watch their school play football and basketball.

Why blame Judy when all she has to sell is dog crap and then she has to convince those people this conference has fans that actual care? Hell I would guess 1/5 or less of the fans on this board has season tickets.

Look in the mirror and at each of our teams and that's why it's a miracle this conference has what it's got


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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
Solid post by WKUYG. Judy, from her point of view, was brought in to be CUSA commissioner to help the conference get the most number of teams into the tournament since she served on the selection committee. Then this basketball conference becomes trash at the sport outside of 1.5 teams per year. Even worse, the NCAA moves the goal posts and makes the selection process more secretive so her previous experience isn't as helpful. Do I think she's doing amazing? No, the tarps in Frisco show that. But the pod play was a pretty decent idea if this conference could put together a good top pod.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
(05-19-2020 09:48 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:08 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  It’s not The fault of the commissioner that the members of the conference suck. That’s the fault of the universities. Open a food truck selling dog $*** tacos and see if people buy. CUSA has regressed because of the members not preforming.

You are 100% correct on the why but even selling dog crap Judy doubled the payout from the first contract. Could someone else did better? I dont know but here are the facts.

CUSA as a conference screwed espn and signed with Fox. That's a fact. Another fact, when Fox started signing P5 content. CUSA was not needed by Fox.

Judy had very little to work with when she came in. Fox was out of the picture because they signed higher profile content

espn wanted no part because CUSA screwed them over after they agreed on a contract.

So two of the three players was out of the picture and that left CBSSN. While they wanted the CUSA championship games. They did not need as many other games. Why? espn had so much content they sold games to CBSSN cheaper than it would have cost them to buy CUSA. With the same ratings.

So not only was Judy selling dog crap the leftovers from CUSA 2.0 were playing worse than dog crap. ...no value. If there was value CBS would have paid for it. So she cobbled together what was left...internet streaming. CUSA was the first guinea pig for streaming. This was in a short period of time.

After 2 years Judy doubled the money which is still not great but $400k. And almost every game played in CUSA can be viewed from your livingroom. As a fan you are having it better than anytime in your schools history...

able to watch more games sitting on the couch. This conference message board is made up of cheap ass fans. Fans that complain about paying $5 a month or even $10 a month to watch their school play football and basketball.

Why blame Judy when all she has to sell is dog crap and then she has to convince those people this conference has fans that actual care? Hell I would guess 1/5 or less of the fans on this board has season tickets.

Look in the mirror and at each of our teams and that's why it's a miracle this conference has what it's got


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Judy was the one who negotiated the first 200,000 payout. She didn't increase anything but her first failure. The TV money went from 1 million per year to 200,000 on her watch. She said everyone's money would go down. We soon learned that was false though after every single other conference even the Missouri Valley conference of all things got pay increase while we got an incredible 1/5th the original pay. I don't care how much she says our schools suck why can everyone but her get pay increases.

Also the first year of cusa 3.0 the average bcs rankings for the teams were higher than the aac. So no she didn't inherit a turd sandwich. Every single year of her tenure the conference has gotten worse. She inherited a mid major and during her guidance its turned to trash.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
(05-19-2020 09:08 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  It’s not The fault of the commissioner that the members of the conference suck. That’s the fault of the universities. Open a food truck selling dog $*** tacos and see if people buy. CUSA has regressed because of the members not preforming.

Absolutely, unquestionably, sincerely and totally correct. Our presidents aren't dumb bunnies, they know you cant take a pile of rotten eggs and make an edible omelet. McLeod is incompetent but not her fault there aren't the necessary ingredients.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
Judy still has her job because a majority of 14 University leaders and their ADs don't think they can do better.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
Two points:

1) A decrease in TV revenue was inevitable in Judy's first negotiation. But an 80% decrease tells me that Judy took the first deal she got, and that isn't a negotiation. A strong case can be made that the $400K per school per year from the most recent negotiation should have been close to the minimum C-USA should have gotten in the earlier negotiation. And the current number would be more like $500K to $600K per school if that had been done.

2) Has the PR image of the C-USA leadership improved or declined under Judy? In my opinion it has declined significantly. And since perception is reality, the conference is weaker with Judy in the top leadership role than it should be. The iconic image of Judy in the toy car will forever be her C-USA legacy.
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it dayum sure isn't due to sleeping with the 'brass'....

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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
We can do better. Are the major problems her fault? Of course not. Excellent points by all in this thread, however, five years and we lack leadership. Some people can sell ice cubes to eskimos. We need someone with more skill, connections, innovative ideas, etc.. I know it is not that simple and the conference is sliding-- but that is exactly the reason for changing the commissioner.

ANALOGY: At Alabama you can win a national football title with a QB who "manages" the offense since the rest of the team is highly talented.

We are like the G5 who needs a "star" at QB to have a chance at a New Year's Day bowl game. She is at best a good manager and has had five years to improve.
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We play our games on Saturday. That is important. I never want to see a UAB USM or UAB LaTech game on a Tuesday or Wednesday night in front of 3000 fans on ESPN8. You build a fan base that buys season tickets and donates to the university by having fans attend games. The casual sports fan/gambler who watches Midweek espn games are not going to buy T-shirts and tickets. At our level the fans are the lifeblood of our programs and screwing them over for an extra 50k -100k in tv money is short sighted and bad economics
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(05-19-2020 02:42 PM)FriscoDawg Wrote:  Two points:

1) A decrease in TV revenue was inevitable in Judy's first negotiation. But an 80% decrease tells me that Judy took the first deal she got, and that isn't a negotiation. A strong case can be made that the $400K per school per year from the most recent negotiation should have been close to the minimum C-USA should have gotten in the earlier negotiation. And the current number would be more like $500K to $600K per school if that had been done.

2) Has the PR image of the C-USA leadership improved or declined under Judy? In my opinion it has declined significantly. And since perception is reality, the conference is weaker with Judy in the top leadership role than it should be. The iconic image of Judy in the toy car will forever be her C-USA legacy.

Always remember- the speed of the Captain is the speed of the crew. And Judy is a really bad captain. She's awful!
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(05-19-2020 09:08 AM)UAB Schnauzer Wrote:  It’s not The fault of the commissioner that the members of the conference suck. That’s the fault of the universities. Open a food truck selling dog $*** tacos and see if people buy. CUSA has regressed because of the members not preforming.

You have a point. Are you suggesting that the presidents at some universities are not adequately supporting their athletics?
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
We have 28 Presidents and AD's in this conference. Why haven't they fired her?After all it is clear she has not really helped the image of this conference. Are our leaders that incompetent?

Of course not, thus the only possible answers are the 14 schools are not on the same page as to the trajectory of the league and Judy has to play deal maker, or the league leaders know there will be an eventual split and there is no reason for a new commissioner.
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RE: Why hasn't Judy McLeod been fired?
Just because CUSA schools "suck" at being good on the fields/courts doesn't also mean the commissioner sucks. The two are exclusive of each other. And clearly a struggling conference like CUSA needs a jam-up good commish! Judy could become commish of the SEC and those schools would continue to do very well, especially in football, but they would have a sucky commissioner.

I think it is way past time to cure one of the ills that plagues CUSA...let's try someone else as commish.
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We will take Judy and you guys can have Keith Gill.
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