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(05-24-2020 11:58 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I hope you and your family have be spared. I hope you and your's thrive. 100K dead and counting with a big resurgence just about the time conference play begins. Until there is a viable vaccine or at least an effective treatment that can fight the disease I will not be risking contagion and death. I am concerned about so many who are willing to risk their own life for a football game and are also willing to aid in the spread of a highly contagious and lethal virus when there is a global pandemic.

If your politics tell you to believe fabrication and magical thinking, you should probably become apolitical!

All the resources and money should have gone toward protecting the elderly and those afflicted with severe underlying medical conditions. Florida was supposed to be the be the next New York, but it hasn't. New York and surrounding states are what they are because of New York politicians.

You don't know this because your news sources would rather report on Trump calling a missile super duper. Trump has worked every day, but the left is destroying him over playing golf, while giving Pelosi a free pass for sitting at home.

My politics tells me to believe no one. Your politics tell you that Trump is always lying, and Obama, Clinton, Schitt, Nadler, Pelosi, Brennan, McCabe, Clapper, Strzok and Comey are honest.

Your suggestion for others to become apolitical because of what they believe, is incredible given what you believe. Pure insanity.

You have no idea what I believe, but because I don't believe what you choose to believe you call me insane. Who is hating who? Most of the left hates Trump that is true, but most of the right hates the majority of americans.
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Trump called a missile super duper.

huh. That's news to me.
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(Yesterday 12:22 AM)Keeper Wrote:  
(Yesterday 12:10 AM)Stammers Wrote:  
(05-24-2020 11:58 PM)Keeper Wrote:  I hope you and your family have be spared. I hope you and your's thrive. 100K dead and counting with a big resurgence just about the time conference play begins. Until there is a viable vaccine or at least an effective treatment that can fight the disease I will not be risking contagion and death. I am concerned about so many who are willing to risk their own life for a football game and are also willing to aid in the spread of a highly contagious and lethal virus when there is a global pandemic.

If your politics tell you to believe fabrication and magical thinking, you should probably become apolitical!

All the resources and money should have gone toward protecting the elderly and those afflicted with severe underlying medical conditions. Florida was supposed to be the be the next New York, but it hasn't. New York and surrounding states are what they are because of New York politicians.

You don't know this because your news sources would rather report on Trump calling a missile super duper. Trump has worked every day, but the left is destroying him over playing golf, while giving Pelosi a free pass for sitting at home.

My politics tells me to believe no one. Your politics tell you that Trump is always lying, and Obama, Clinton, Schitt, Nadler, Pelosi, Brennan, McCabe, Clapper, Strzok and Comey are honest.

Your suggestion for others to become apolitical because of what they believe, is incredible given what you believe. Pure insanity.

You have no idea what I believe, but because I don't believe what you choose to believe you call me insane. Who is hating who? Most of the left hates Trump that is true, but most of the right hates the majority of americans.

More insanity from the tolerant left. Amazing.
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Yep, this is all Obama's fault.
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(05-22-2020 10:52 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 07:49 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 11:15 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:12 PM)steves Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:58 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  Good luck with that. Many schools are cancelling fall break and wrapping up in person classes before Thanksgiving so students don’t travel all over the country and potentially bring COVID-19 back to campus during those two breaks. Or worse yet so that asymptotic students don’t take the disease all over the place and seed new outbreaks.

So sending 150+ staff and students all across the country 6 weeks in the fall likely isn’t happening. That’s what 60ish teams on the road each week? At a time when most universities have banned all sponsored travel. The season looks less and less likely with each passing day.

Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.

I’m not playing politics at all. I want football and life back to normal as much as anyone else.

I’m just pointing out that higher ed in general is being very cautious towards reopening. If they are adjusting term schedules to avoid students traveling home for fall break and Thanksgiving and then back to campus, do you really think they are going to be eager to travel across country several times across the fall? My guess is no.

I also think we are seeing to wife a variety of university plans to accommodate a standardized football season. NCAA has lots of rules about what you can do as far as practice goes based on whether or not classes are in session. With many schools starting classes early, some starting classes late, etc. the variability in fall camps and practice time will be immense. The NCAA tries to standardize things to fit their idea of fairness. These things are most definitely at conflict with each other.

And the theory of no sports in 2020 continues to crumble...

NCAA allows athletes to begin on-campus workouts

I wouldn’t call it a theory. I am just pointing out that universities are taking this virus very seriously to the point that they are making huge changes to the way they operate. That will surely have an impact on whether or how sports are played. Just because the NCAA says athletes can return to campus doesn’t mean all university presidents and local/state governments will allow it right away.

How well do you think it will go over if Ohio State starts workouts June 1st and fall camp August 1st but Michigan doesn’t let athletes back to campus until August? If Michigan starts their semester early to end by Thanksgiving but Ohio State doesn’t, then one school has a few weeks of 2 a days and the other doesn’t have any. These things will get messy, quickly.

It's a theory when you say "The season looks less and less likely with each passing day". And it does crumble when, in fact, the season looks more and more likely with each passing day. Given the data, and what is happening all over the globe with sports starting back.
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(05-24-2020 08:52 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  If social distancing requirements cause there to be a shortage of available seats we can allocate each season ticket holder fewer tickets for a game or two , so instead of getting 4 tickets to every game I might get 4 tickets to 5 games and no tickets to two games, OR 4 tickets to 3 games and 2 tickets to 4 games. this will work for us in football

Yeah, we probably will see packages offered like this - IF fans are permitted and depending upon the capacity restrictions.
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(05-24-2020 11:58 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Until there is a viable vaccine or at least an effective treatment that can fight the disease I will not be risking contagion and death. I am concerned about so many who are willing to risk their own life for a football game and are also willing to aid in the spread of a highly contagious and lethal virus when there is a global pandemic.

If your politics tell you to believe fabrication and magical thinking, you should probably become apolitical!

Thank you for your concern. I hope you are able to not leave your house until there is a vaccine. I hope your groceries are delivered by robots, and you don't have to leave the house to work. I hope you don't have to go to any clinic. I hope your mental health hangs in there for zero human interaction for the next - forever how long - year? Heck, I hope there is a vaccine. Oh - and I hope no one else lives in your household, because who knows where they are going.

You see, it's not just a football game. It's all of life. And there's no politics involved with wanting to earn a living, and be with family/friends. I simply study the data, evaluate risks and make decisions. This is a risk I can manage right now. Nothing magical about it.
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(Yesterday 12:54 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-24-2020 11:58 PM)Keeper Wrote:  Until there is a viable vaccine or at least an effective treatment that can fight the disease I will not be risking contagion and death. I am concerned about so many who are willing to risk their own life for a football game and are also willing to aid in the spread of a highly contagious and lethal virus when there is a global pandemic.

If your politics tell you to believe fabrication and magical thinking, you should probably become apolitical!

Thank you for your concern. I hope you are able to not leave your house until there is a vaccine. I hope your groceries are delivered by robots, and you don't have to leave the house to work. I hope you don't have to go to any clinic. I hope your mental health hangs in there for zero human interaction for the next - forever how long - year? Heck, I hope there is a vaccine. Oh - and I hope no one else lives in your household, because who knows where they are going.

You see, it's not just a football game. It's all of life. And there's no politics involved with wanting to earn a living, and be with family/friends. I simply study the data, evaluate risks and make decisions. This is a risk I can manage right now. Nothing magical about it.

More than likely he falls under one of three categories. He is either wealthy and this doesn't affect him; he is retired, or he will make as much or almost as much from unemployment benefits as his regular paycheck.

Nobody with any skin in the game would say that it is perfectly cool to wait a year or more in isolation for a vaccine.
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(Yesterday 11:57 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Yep, this is all Obama's fault.

1. The Chinese Communist Party
2. The WHO
3. Fauci
4. NYC Democrats

Then maybe you can put Trump at #5.
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(Yesterday 11:57 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Yep, this is all Obama's fault.

O I get it now....It was Obama's super duper missile.

This is making more sense all the time.
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03-lmfao03-lmfao
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(Yesterday 12:40 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 10:52 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 07:49 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 11:15 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:12 PM)steves Wrote:  Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.

I’m not playing politics at all. I want football and life back to normal as much as anyone else.

I’m just pointing out that higher ed in general is being very cautious towards reopening. If they are adjusting term schedules to avoid students traveling home for fall break and Thanksgiving and then back to campus, do you really think they are going to be eager to travel across country several times across the fall? My guess is no.

I also think we are seeing to wife a variety of university plans to accommodate a standardized football season. NCAA has lots of rules about what you can do as far as practice goes based on whether or not classes are in session. With many schools starting classes early, some starting classes late, etc. the variability in fall camps and practice time will be immense. The NCAA tries to standardize things to fit their idea of fairness. These things are most definitely at conflict with each other.

And the theory of no sports in 2020 continues to crumble...

NCAA allows athletes to begin on-campus workouts

I wouldn’t call it a theory. I am just pointing out that universities are taking this virus very seriously to the point that they are making huge changes to the way they operate. That will surely have an impact on whether or how sports are played. Just because the NCAA says athletes can return to campus doesn’t mean all university presidents and local/state governments will allow it right away.

How well do you think it will go over if Ohio State starts workouts June 1st and fall camp August 1st but Michigan doesn’t let athletes back to campus until August? If Michigan starts their semester early to end by Thanksgiving but Ohio State doesn’t, then one school has a few weeks of 2 a days and the other doesn’t have any. These things will get messy, quickly.

It's a theory when you say "The season looks less and less likely with each passing day". And it does crumble when, in fact, the season looks more and more likely with each passing day. Given the data, and what is happening all over the globe with sports starting back.

NCAA President Mark Emmert: No Sports Without Students on Campus

Michigan President: No UM football unless all students on campus
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