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RE: Football attendance plan
(05-19-2020 09:58 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 03:03 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  My guess...

Games will be played.
Schedule will be modified to limit travel and get done more quickly. Not sure how this happens with tv contracts and all, but they can figure it out. Maybe as simple as conference games only, no open weeks, with championships and a limited post-season. Try to get finished before a second wave possibly hits in winter.
Testing of entire teams every week. Positive test leads to a 2-week quarantine for the player only. (English Premier League has just announced a 1-week player quarantine which could become the model for pro sports.)
No band. Limited students. Cheerleaders are fine.
Attendance is tough to predict. Right now, I guess 1/3 capacity. Seat costs will be a premium, and availability based upon priority points.
Gates will open much earlier to allow fans to avoid the rush. Masks are mandatory. Bathrooms are fine, due to limited capacity and increased availability of sanitizer.
If restaurants reopen safely over coming months, concessions will have momentum for business as usual.
Tiger Lane will remain open, but limited capacity. Screens will be setup outside the stadium for fans to distantly attend.

Good luck with that. Many schools are cancelling fall break and wrapping up in person classes before Thanksgiving so students don’t travel all over the country and potentially bring COVID-19 back to campus during those two breaks. Or worse yet so that asymptotic students don’t take the disease all over the place and seed new outbreaks.

So sending 150+ staff and students all across the country 6 weeks in the fall likely isn’t happening. That’s what 60ish teams on the road each week? At a time when most universities have banned all sponsored travel. The season looks less and less likely with each passing day.

Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.
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(05-20-2020 03:56 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  And how is a drug stat mortality rate relevant...?

All we do to avoid dying of drugs is

drum roll...................................................

not take them.

Perspective. Scale.
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(05-19-2020 09:20 AM)fsquid Wrote:  How about we schedule the games and if you want to go, go. If you are afraid or have someone vulnerable at home, don't. Done.

As long as you sign a legal waiver, I could see this happening.
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(05-20-2020 08:12 PM)steves Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:58 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 03:03 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  My guess...

Games will be played.
Schedule will be modified to limit travel and get done more quickly. Not sure how this happens with tv contracts and all, but they can figure it out. Maybe as simple as conference games only, no open weeks, with championships and a limited post-season. Try to get finished before a second wave possibly hits in winter.
Testing of entire teams every week. Positive test leads to a 2-week quarantine for the player only. (English Premier League has just announced a 1-week player quarantine which could become the model for pro sports.)
No band. Limited students. Cheerleaders are fine.
Attendance is tough to predict. Right now, I guess 1/3 capacity. Seat costs will be a premium, and availability based upon priority points.
Gates will open much earlier to allow fans to avoid the rush. Masks are mandatory. Bathrooms are fine, due to limited capacity and increased availability of sanitizer.
If restaurants reopen safely over coming months, concessions will have momentum for business as usual.
Tiger Lane will remain open, but limited capacity. Screens will be setup outside the stadium for fans to distantly attend.

Good luck with that. Many schools are cancelling fall break and wrapping up in person classes before Thanksgiving so students don’t travel all over the country and potentially bring COVID-19 back to campus during those two breaks. Or worse yet so that asymptotic students don’t take the disease all over the place and seed new outbreaks.

So sending 150+ staff and students all across the country 6 weeks in the fall likely isn’t happening. That’s what 60ish teams on the road each week? At a time when most universities have banned all sponsored travel. The season looks less and less likely with each passing day.

Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.

I’m not playing politics at all. I want football and life back to normal as much as anyone else.

I’m just pointing out that higher ed in general is being very cautious towards reopening. If they are adjusting term schedules to avoid students traveling home for fall break and Thanksgiving and then back to campus, do you really think they are going to be eager to travel across country several times across the fall? My guess is no.

I also think we are seeing to wife a variety of university plans to accommodate a standardized football season. NCAA has lots of rules about what you can do as far as practice goes based on whether or not classes are in session. With many schools starting classes early, some starting classes late, etc. the variability in fall camps and practice time will be immense. The NCAA tries to standardize things to fit their idea of fairness. These things are most definitely at conflict with each other.
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(05-20-2020 11:15 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:12 PM)steves Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:58 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 03:03 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  My guess...

Games will be played.
Schedule will be modified to limit travel and get done more quickly. Not sure how this happens with tv contracts and all, but they can figure it out. Maybe as simple as conference games only, no open weeks, with championships and a limited post-season. Try to get finished before a second wave possibly hits in winter.
Testing of entire teams every week. Positive test leads to a 2-week quarantine for the player only. (English Premier League has just announced a 1-week player quarantine which could become the model for pro sports.)
No band. Limited students. Cheerleaders are fine.
Attendance is tough to predict. Right now, I guess 1/3 capacity. Seat costs will be a premium, and availability based upon priority points.
Gates will open much earlier to allow fans to avoid the rush. Masks are mandatory. Bathrooms are fine, due to limited capacity and increased availability of sanitizer.
If restaurants reopen safely over coming months, concessions will have momentum for business as usual.
Tiger Lane will remain open, but limited capacity. Screens will be setup outside the stadium for fans to distantly attend.

Good luck with that. Many schools are cancelling fall break and wrapping up in person classes before Thanksgiving so students don’t travel all over the country and potentially bring COVID-19 back to campus during those two breaks. Or worse yet so that asymptotic students don’t take the disease all over the place and seed new outbreaks.

So sending 150+ staff and students all across the country 6 weeks in the fall likely isn’t happening. That’s what 60ish teams on the road each week? At a time when most universities have banned all sponsored travel. The season looks less and less likely with each passing day.

Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.

I’m not playing politics at all. I want football and life back to normal as much as anyone else.

I’m just pointing out that higher ed in general is being very cautious towards reopening. If they are adjusting term schedules to avoid students traveling home for fall break and Thanksgiving and then back to campus, do you really think they are going to be eager to travel across country several times across the fall? My guess is no.

I also think we are seeing to wife a variety of university plans to accommodate a standardized football season. NCAA has lots of rules about what you can do as far as practice goes based on whether or not classes are in session. With many schools starting classes early, some starting classes late, etc. the variability in fall camps and practice time will be immense. The NCAA tries to standardize things to fit their idea of fairness. These things are most definitely at conflict with each other.

And the theory of no sports in 2020 continues to crumble...

NCAA allows athletes to begin on-campus workouts
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Just have it where only season ticket holders can go.

3 or 4 seats between each person.

That puts you around 20,000 people, and the stadium looks slam packed to the rim on TV.
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(05-21-2020 08:14 AM)MemTiger90 Wrote:  Just have it where only season ticket holders can go.

3 or 4 seats between each person.

That puts you around 20,000 people, and the stadium looks slam packed to the rim on TV.

4 out of 5 empty seats does not equal 20k people. It's 12k. And that's if you have every row occupied. Wouldn't make much sense to skip seats but have someone right behind you. So skip a row, and you're down to 6k. Too few.

IF we have fans, they will not skip seats between EVERY person. At the very least, households will be allowed to sit together. But they will probably have to skip rows.

At least right now that would be the policy. Who knows what it will look like by September.
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(05-18-2020 11:25 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 07:05 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  I think we have to assume that if games take place in the fall that there will most likely be no fans. If there are fans allowed then it will be a lot less than 50% capacity. Maybe something closer to 10% capacity.

Most people on this board don't know what the consequences were of the Atalanta-Valencia Champions League soccer game back in February, but the major sports leagues do. And they don't want that to happen again.
Dr. Rudd has already said that he doesn’t see a situation where we play without fans. I believe he said something along the lines of “if it’s not safe for fans to be in the stands then how can we say it’s safe for student-athletes on the field”.

I think most schools are looking at pretty significant restrictions on their campuses in the fall. Hard to see where contact sports and tens of thousands of fans fit into those models.

AD Veatch says today that he is happy the NCAA has ruled athletes can get back to campus for workouts, and that they have been working on a plan towards that for some time.
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(05-21-2020 09:06 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 11:25 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 07:05 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  I think we have to assume that if games take place in the fall that there will most likely be no fans. If there are fans allowed then it will be a lot less than 50% capacity. Maybe something closer to 10% capacity.

Most people on this board don't know what the consequences were of the Atalanta-Valencia Champions League soccer game back in February, but the major sports leagues do. And they don't want that to happen again.
Dr. Rudd has already said that he doesn’t see a situation where we play without fans. I believe he said something along the lines of “if it’s not safe for fans to be in the stands then how can we say it’s safe for student-athletes on the field”.

I think most schools are looking at pretty significant restrictions on their campuses in the fall. Hard to see where contact sports and tens of thousands of fans fit into those models.

AD Veatch says today that he is happy the NCAA has ruled athletes can get back to campus for workouts, and that they have been working on a plan towards that for some time.
Yeah, I heard Rudd say he didn't think they'd play if there weren't students on campus...looks like there will be students on campus.
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(05-21-2020 07:49 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 11:15 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:12 PM)steves Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:58 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 03:03 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  My guess...

Games will be played.
Schedule will be modified to limit travel and get done more quickly. Not sure how this happens with tv contracts and all, but they can figure it out. Maybe as simple as conference games only, no open weeks, with championships and a limited post-season. Try to get finished before a second wave possibly hits in winter.
Testing of entire teams every week. Positive test leads to a 2-week quarantine for the player only. (English Premier League has just announced a 1-week player quarantine which could become the model for pro sports.)
No band. Limited students. Cheerleaders are fine.
Attendance is tough to predict. Right now, I guess 1/3 capacity. Seat costs will be a premium, and availability based upon priority points.
Gates will open much earlier to allow fans to avoid the rush. Masks are mandatory. Bathrooms are fine, due to limited capacity and increased availability of sanitizer.
If restaurants reopen safely over coming months, concessions will have momentum for business as usual.
Tiger Lane will remain open, but limited capacity. Screens will be setup outside the stadium for fans to distantly attend.

Good luck with that. Many schools are cancelling fall break and wrapping up in person classes before Thanksgiving so students don’t travel all over the country and potentially bring COVID-19 back to campus during those two breaks. Or worse yet so that asymptotic students don’t take the disease all over the place and seed new outbreaks.

So sending 150+ staff and students all across the country 6 weeks in the fall likely isn’t happening. That’s what 60ish teams on the road each week? At a time when most universities have banned all sponsored travel. The season looks less and less likely with each passing day.

Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.

I’m not playing politics at all. I want football and life back to normal as much as anyone else.

I’m just pointing out that higher ed in general is being very cautious towards reopening. If they are adjusting term schedules to avoid students traveling home for fall break and Thanksgiving and then back to campus, do you really think they are going to be eager to travel across country several times across the fall? My guess is no.

I also think we are seeing to wife a variety of university plans to accommodate a standardized football season. NCAA has lots of rules about what you can do as far as practice goes based on whether or not classes are in session. With many schools starting classes early, some starting classes late, etc. the variability in fall camps and practice time will be immense. The NCAA tries to standardize things to fit their idea of fairness. These things are most definitely at conflict with each other.

And the theory of no sports in 2020 continues to crumble...

NCAA allows athletes to begin on-campus workouts

I wouldn’t call it a theory. I am just pointing out that universities are taking this virus very seriously to the point that they are making huge changes to the way they operate. That will surely have an impact on whether or how sports are played. Just because the NCAA says athletes can return to campus doesn’t mean all university presidents and local/state governments will allow it right away.

How well do you think it will go over if Ohio State starts workouts June 1st and fall camp August 1st but Michigan doesn’t let athletes back to campus until August? If Michigan starts their semester early to end by Thanksgiving but Ohio State doesn’t, then one school has a few weeks of 2 a days and the other doesn’t have any. These things will get messy, quickly.
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Sports Illustrated reports that the $EC has voted for players to return to campuses on June 8. With the most powerful of the power conferences taking this action, I expect the rest of the P5 to follow suit. And, if we (the AAC) want to maintain our "P6" status, we will need to join in. Let's see what happens.
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If social distancing requirements cause there to be a shortage of available seats we can allocate each season ticket holder fewer tickets for a game or two , so instead of getting 4 tickets to every game I might get 4 tickets to 5 games and no tickets to two games, OR 4 tickets to 3 games and 2 tickets to 4 games. this will work for us in football
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Picture of Georgia Tech football game during 1918 pandemic shows how sports went on.
(photo taken 102 years ago.)


[Image: safe_image.php?d=AQDg7Qa2cVT0qnhj&am...kfSH3z1nf3]


Stadiums continue to sit empty.

There are few answers on when they may be filled again. While leagues and conferences discuss a return to sports, many of those plans bar fans for the foreseeable future.

While times are unique, it's not the first time sports has been affected by a pandemic.

"The virus is on a similar time track," said Andy McNeil, a Georgia Tech graduate and mechanical engineer. "History does repeat itself."
(This post was last modified: 05-24-2020 11:40 PM by snowtiger.)
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I hope you and your family have be spared. I hope you and your's thrive. 100K dead and counting with a big resurgence just about the time conference play begins. Until there is a viable vaccine or at least an effective treatment that can fight the disease I will not be risking contagion and death. I am concerned about so many who are willing to risk their own life for a football game and are also willing to aid in the spread of a highly contagious and lethal virus when there is a global pandemic.

If your politics tell you to believe fabrication and magical thinking, you should probably become apolitical!
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(05-24-2020 11:38 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Picture of Georgia Tech football game during 1918 pandemic shows how sports went on.
(photo taken 102 years ago.)


[Image: safe_image.php?d=AQDg7Qa2cVT0qnhj&am...kfSH3z1nf3]


Stadiums continue to sit empty.

There are few answers on when they may be filled again. While leagues and conferences discuss a return to sports, many of those plans bar fans for the foreseeable future.

While times are unique, it's not the first time sports has been affected by a pandemic.

"The virus is on a similar time track," said Andy McNeil, a Georgia Tech graduate and mechanical engineer. "History does repeat itself."

Yes and almost 700,000 americans died. About 20 million died world wide. And this virus aint no flu, it is much more contagious and more lethal. Most of those deaths came during the second wave.
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(05-22-2020 10:52 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 07:49 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 11:15 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:12 PM)steves Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 09:58 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  Good luck with that. Many schools are cancelling fall break and wrapping up in person classes before Thanksgiving so students don’t travel all over the country and potentially bring COVID-19 back to campus during those two breaks. Or worse yet so that asymptotic students don’t take the disease all over the place and seed new outbreaks.

So sending 150+ staff and students all across the country 6 weeks in the fall likely isn’t happening. That’s what 60ish teams on the road each week? At a time when most universities have banned all sponsored travel. The season looks less and less likely with each passing day.

Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.

I’m not playing politics at all. I want football and life back to normal as much as anyone else.

I’m just pointing out that higher ed in general is being very cautious towards reopening. If they are adjusting term schedules to avoid students traveling home for fall break and Thanksgiving and then back to campus, do you really think they are going to be eager to travel across country several times across the fall? My guess is no.

I also think we are seeing to wife a variety of university plans to accommodate a standardized football season. NCAA has lots of rules about what you can do as far as practice goes based on whether or not classes are in session. With many schools starting classes early, some starting classes late, etc. the variability in fall camps and practice time will be immense. The NCAA tries to standardize things to fit their idea of fairness. These things are most definitely at conflict with each other.

And the theory of no sports in 2020 continues to crumble...

NCAA allows athletes to begin on-campus workouts

I wouldn’t call it a theory. I am just pointing out that universities are taking this virus very seriously to the point that they are making huge changes to the way they operate. That will surely have an impact on whether or how sports are played. Just because the NCAA says athletes can return to campus doesn’t mean all university presidents and local/state governments will allow it right away.

How well do you think it will go over if Ohio State starts workouts June 1st and fall camp August 1st but Michigan doesn’t let athletes back to campus until August? If Michigan starts their semester early to end by Thanksgiving but Ohio State doesn’t, then one school has a few weeks of 2 a days and the other doesn’t have any. These things will get messy, quickly.

It's a theory when you say "The season looks less and less likely with each passing day". And it does crumble when, in fact, the season looks more and more likely with each passing day. Given the data, and what is happening all over the globe with sports starting back.
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(05-24-2020 08:52 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  If social distancing requirements cause there to be a shortage of available seats we can allocate each season ticket holder fewer tickets for a game or two , so instead of getting 4 tickets to every game I might get 4 tickets to 5 games and no tickets to two games, OR 4 tickets to 3 games and 2 tickets to 4 games. this will work for us in football

Yeah, we probably will see packages offered like this - IF fans are permitted and depending upon the capacity restrictions.
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(05-25-2020 12:40 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-22-2020 10:52 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 07:49 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 11:15 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:12 PM)steves Wrote:  Things change daily ... Seems we are all ready for reopening the country.
Just gotta use patience and common sense. Really gotta ask the " is it worth it" question ... And be opened minded about the seating restrictions we're going to have to deal with. And ask yourself ... Do you want football back or don't you. And Jesus ... Drop the politics.

I’m not playing politics at all. I want football and life back to normal as much as anyone else.

I’m just pointing out that higher ed in general is being very cautious towards reopening. If they are adjusting term schedules to avoid students traveling home for fall break and Thanksgiving and then back to campus, do you really think they are going to be eager to travel across country several times across the fall? My guess is no.

I also think we are seeing to wife a variety of university plans to accommodate a standardized football season. NCAA has lots of rules about what you can do as far as practice goes based on whether or not classes are in session. With many schools starting classes early, some starting classes late, etc. the variability in fall camps and practice time will be immense. The NCAA tries to standardize things to fit their idea of fairness. These things are most definitely at conflict with each other.

And the theory of no sports in 2020 continues to crumble...

NCAA allows athletes to begin on-campus workouts

I wouldn’t call it a theory. I am just pointing out that universities are taking this virus very seriously to the point that they are making huge changes to the way they operate. That will surely have an impact on whether or how sports are played. Just because the NCAA says athletes can return to campus doesn’t mean all university presidents and local/state governments will allow it right away.

How well do you think it will go over if Ohio State starts workouts June 1st and fall camp August 1st but Michigan doesn’t let athletes back to campus until August? If Michigan starts their semester early to end by Thanksgiving but Ohio State doesn’t, then one school has a few weeks of 2 a days and the other doesn’t have any. These things will get messy, quickly.

It's a theory when you say "The season looks less and less likely with each passing day". And it does crumble when, in fact, the season looks more and more likely with each passing day. Given the data, and what is happening all over the globe with sports starting back.

NCAA President Mark Emmert: No Sports Without Students on Campus

Michigan President: No UM football unless all students on campus
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(05-24-2020 11:38 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Picture of Georgia Tech football game during 1918 pandemic shows how sports went on.
(photo taken 102 years ago.)


[Image: safe_image.php?d=AQDg7Qa2cVT0qnhj&am...kfSH3z1nf3]


Stadiums continue to sit empty.

There are few answers on when they may be filled again. While leagues and conferences discuss a return to sports, many of those plans bar fans for the foreseeable future.

While times are unique, it's not the first time sports has been affected by a pandemic.

"The virus is on a similar time track," said Andy McNeil, a Georgia Tech graduate and mechanical engineer. "History does repeat itself."
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RE: Football attendance plan
(05-26-2020 12:33 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(05-24-2020 11:38 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Picture of Georgia Tech football game during 1918 pandemic shows how sports went on.
(photo taken 102 years ago.)


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Stadiums continue to sit empty.

There are few answers on when they may be filled again. While leagues and conferences discuss a return to sports, many of those plans bar fans for the foreseeable future.

While times are unique, it's not the first time sports has been affected by a pandemic.

"The virus is on a similar time track," said Andy McNeil, a Georgia Tech graduate and mechanical engineer. "History does repeat itself."

Similar to Memphis football today, the late teens was GT's greatest heyday of football; 1918 followed their greatest season and first national championship.
05-26-2020 01:08 PM
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