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(05-18-2020 09:35 PM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 07:05 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  I think we have to assume that if games take place in the fall that there will most likely be no fans. If there are fans allowed then it will be a lot less than 50% capacity. Maybe something closer to 10% capacity.

Most people on this board don't know what the consequences were of the Atalanta-Valencia Champions League soccer game back in February, but the major sports leagues do. And they don't want that to happen again.

‘More than a month later, experts are pointing to a Champions League game between Atalanta and Valencia as one of the biggest reasons why Bergamo, Italy, has become one of the epicenters of the coronavirus pandemic — a “biological bomb” was the way one respiratory specialist put it.‘

Yeah, I saw that episode too. But it's a theory and was absent quite a bit of data to back it up. Some scientists are now saying that we had the virus on the West coast in December. If so, we certainly had it at the Super Bowl. But I've seen no traceable data to support anything like what Real Sports said about the soccer match.
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(05-19-2020 09:20 AM)fsquid Wrote:  How about we schedule the games and if you want to go, go. If you are afraid or have someone vulnerable at home, don't. Done.

Self Determination? Sounds like; America to me.
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(05-18-2020 11:25 PM)pkptigers07 Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 07:05 PM)aTxTIGER Wrote:  I think we have to assume that if games take place in the fall that there will most likely be no fans. If there are fans allowed then it will be a lot less than 50% capacity. Maybe something closer to 10% capacity.

Most people on this board don't know what the consequences were of the Atalanta-Valencia Champions League soccer game back in February, but the major sports leagues do. And they don't want that to happen again.
Dr. Rudd has already said that he doesn’t see a situation where we play without fans. I believe he said something along the lines of “if it’s not safe for fans to be in the stands then how can we say it’s safe for student-athletes on the field”.

I think most schools are looking at pretty significant restrictions on their campuses in the fall. Hard to see where contact sports and tens of thousands of fans fit into those models.

I love Dr. Rudd, but it's easy. Student-athletes are largely and significantly not at risk for this virus. Besides, those student-athletes already do a lot of things that would not be safe for fans.

They will figure out a way to play the games. Fans is another issue.
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Play the games with fans. Those most vulnerable or sick should stay home. Everyone use common sense.
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My guess...

Games will be played.
Schedule will be modified to limit travel and get done more quickly. Not sure how this happens with tv contracts and all, but they can figure it out. Maybe as simple as conference games only, no open weeks, with championships and a limited post-season. Try to get finished before a second wave possibly hits in winter.
Testing of entire teams every week. Positive test leads to a 2-week quarantine for the player only. (English Premier League has just announced a 1-week player quarantine which could become the model for pro sports.)
No band. Limited students. Cheerleaders are fine.
Attendance is tough to predict. Right now, I guess 1/3 capacity. Seat costs will be a premium, and availability based upon priority points.
Gates will open much earlier to allow fans to avoid the rush. Masks are mandatory. Bathrooms are fine, due to limited capacity and increased availability of sanitizer.
If restaurants reopen safely over coming months, concessions will have momentum for business as usual.
Tiger Lane will remain open, but limited capacity. Screens will be setup outside the stadium for fans to distantly attend.
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(05-19-2020 09:20 AM)fsquid Wrote:  How about we schedule the games and if you want to go, go. If you are afraid or have someone vulnerable at home, don't. Done.

What about our student-athletes?
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(05-19-2020 09:15 AM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:48 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  If this country is still social distancing by kickoff----then GOD help us--- AMERICA is already unrecognizable because of the liberal far left agenda that have changed our land the past 20/30 years----but if this country dont open back up soon---even this new fundamentally transformed AMERICA will be at the point of no return. GO TIGERS.

Amen brother. This has to end. 50k to 75k people die every year from the flu that has a vaccine. People with weaker immune systems should definitely take precautions, but the world must go on. We can’t do this every time something new comes along.

We don’t do this every time something new comes along. C-19 is different. A just released study says it is killing at a rate 20 times that of the regular flu in the US in the deadliest week of an average flu season. Authors from Harvard Medical and Emory have called out US officials who are saying this is just another flu.

It’s not just deaths. One study shows that one in 5 healthy people contracting C-19 survive but develop heart damage. They say Some may have had undiagnosed heart damage but C-19 seems drawn to weakness. It is very efficient in reaching the lungs. Smokers have a much higher risk. Diabetes type two is much higher risk. Age is a factor but medical conditions are more prevalent in older adults. Heart disease and hypertension are higher risk. Type A blood types are a higher risk. Of course obesity.

Add all those issues and risk factors for contracting C-19 with severe or worse results far outweigh the typical flu outbreak. 50-75k do not die of flu each year. In the past 10 years it has mostly been under 40k with a low of 12k. 2017-18 was a particularly bad year with 61k.

They are predicting long-term health problems they we won’t know about for sure till years from now. This caused by the unique characteristics of the disease. Some viruses are more efficient killers but can’t be easily transmitted. Others are easily transmitted but not efficient killers. C-19 is both.

Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven politicians.

I do agree that getting back to normal as soon as possible is important. But even in 1918 they realized the Spanish flu was different. They closed public places. They wore protective barriers. They called it something different but practiced social distancing.
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Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven doctors/scientist/and organizations ----especially those involved with this virus---they have been wrong on everything from day 1----and change their minds/opinions almost hourly/daily .
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(05-19-2020 06:46 AM)Tigerx3 Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:48 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  If this country is still social distancing by kickoff----then GOD help us--- AMERICA is already unrecognizable because of the liberal far left agenda that have changed our land the past 20/30 years----but if this country dont open back up soon---even this new fundamentally transformed AMERICA will be at the point of no return. GO TIGERS.

This country has survived and rebounded from civil war and world war, multiple pandemics including the 1918 influenza which officially lasted about 15 months. The Great Depression impact lasted about a decade.

We have followed each tragic event with a period of great change, great wealth creation and significant advancement. During each tragic event we have been defined by our faith and the compassion we have shown for those impacted the most.

We have also Had those who In each event have been blinded and limited by The darkness of lack of faith and lack vision and hope. Who have sought to assign blame rather than work together for the greater good. Sacrifice is essential for recovery.

There is equal evil in extremism of beliefs whether it is far right or far left. The real danger is in the great majority middle allowing extremism to gain a foothold in leadership. Our strength lies in balance of power and balance of ideologies not domination of thought.

It is sad to see that some choose to insert political beliefs into every discussion. If you are going to invoke God’s name do not use political leanings in the same sentence.

Sports should be fun and escapism. If some want to argue politics, take it PM or find another venue we’re you can bash away.

Well said sir!! I’m going to bite my lip and not make any comments one way or the other about our “brilliant” leader.
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(05-19-2020 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven doctors/scientist/and organizations ----especially those involved with this virus---they have been wrong on everything from day 1----and change their minds/opinions almost hourly/daily .

I'd like to think it's unintentional, that they just don't know enough about this virus to be accurate but I'm afraid there are agendas & without question the politicians & the supposed experts have been less accurate than our weather "experts" - and have wrecked the economy at the same time. And while I'm at it, only 4-5 states have higher death rates for covid-19 without a vaccine than the flu's (A&B etc) did last year with a vaccine. SMH....
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(05-19-2020 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven doctors/scientist/and organizations ----especially those involved with this virus---they have been wrong on everything from day 1----and change their minds/opinions almost hourly/daily .

What a laugh! If I remember correctly, someone said that the virus would not be a problem in the US, then that the 15 US cases would quickly go down to 0, then that the virus was a political hoax, then that he knew it was going to be a massive pandemic all along. The latest word from him is that it is simply going to disappear soon. Who is it that changes their minds almost hourly/daily as you say? Come on now - answer truthfully. I don’t think you can bring yourself to admit the truth even when you hear and see said person make these statements on multiple news broadcasts including Fox News. Some things just can’t be denied.
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(05-19-2020 06:43 PM)danny1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven doctors/scientist/and organizations ----especially those involved with this virus---they have been wrong on everything from day 1----and change their minds/opinions almost hourly/daily .

What a laugh! If I remember correctly, someone said that the virus would not be a problem in the US, then that the 15 US cases would quickly go down to 0, then that the virus was a political hoax, then that he knew it was going to be a massive pandemic all along. The latest word from him is that it is simply going to disappear soon. Who is it that changes their minds almost hourly/daily as you say? Come on now - answer truthfully. I don’t think you can bring yourself to admit the truth even when you hear and see said person make these statements on multiple news broadcasts including Fox News. Some things just can’t be denied.

Fauci ?
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(05-19-2020 06:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:43 PM)danny1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven doctors/scientist/and organizations ----especially those involved with this virus---they have been wrong on everything from day 1----and change their minds/opinions almost hourly/daily .

What a laugh! If I remember correctly, someone said that the virus would not be a problem in the US, then that the 15 US cases would quickly go down to 0, then that the virus was a political hoax, then that he knew it was going to be a massive pandemic all along. The latest word from him is that it is simply going to disappear soon. Who is it that changes their minds almost hourly/daily as you say? Come on now - answer truthfully. I don’t think you can bring yourself to admit the truth even when you hear and see said person make these statements on multiple news broadcasts including Fox News. Some things just can’t be denied.

Fauci ?

Lol - try again
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(05-19-2020 06:51 PM)danny1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:43 PM)danny1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven doctors/scientist/and organizations ----especially those involved with this virus---they have been wrong on everything from day 1----and change their minds/opinions almost hourly/daily .

What a laugh! If I remember correctly, someone said that the virus would not be a problem in the US, then that the 15 US cases would quickly go down to 0, then that the virus was a political hoax, then that he knew it was going to be a massive pandemic all along. The latest word from him is that it is simply going to disappear soon. Who is it that changes their minds almost hourly/daily as you say? Come on now - answer truthfully. I don’t think you can bring yourself to admit the truth even when you hear and see said person make these statements on multiple news broadcasts including Fox News. Some things just can’t be denied.

Fauci ?

Lol - try again

Laugh if you like----but I saw Fauci say it was not going to be a problem or big deal in AMERICA---like he has been wrong at every turn.
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These experts also said we only had about 10% of the ventilators needed - WRONG! That we'd run out of hospital beds- wrong, that we shouldn't wear masks, now we should, etc.
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(05-19-2020 07:19 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  These experts also said we only had about 10% of the ventilators needed - WRONG! That we'd run out of hospital beds- wrong, that we shouldn't wear masks, now we should, etc.

^^^THIS^^^
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(05-19-2020 06:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:51 PM)danny1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:43 PM)danny1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 05:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Be careful about repeating crap from agenda driven doctors/scientist/and organizations ----especially those involved with this virus---they have been wrong on everything from day 1----and change their minds/opinions almost hourly/daily .

What a laugh! If I remember correctly, someone said that the virus would not be a problem in the US, then that the 15 US cases would quickly go down to 0, then that the virus was a political hoax, then that he knew it was going to be a massive pandemic all along. The latest word from him is that it is simply going to disappear soon. Who is it that changes their minds almost hourly/daily as you say? Come on now - answer truthfully. I don’t think you can bring yourself to admit the truth even when you hear and see said person make these statements on multiple news broadcasts including Fox News. Some things just can’t be denied.

Fauci ?

Lol - try again

Laugh if you like----but I saw Fauci say it was not going to be a problem or big deal in AMERICA---like he has been wrong at every turn.

There's always at least one fall-guy. Fauci is that guy. He didn't become 'that guy' till he veered from the party line.

Here's your warning of what was to come:

On Feb 25th,The director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory said to get ready for a whopper headed our way. She was immediately silenced. That would be Dr. Nancy Messoonnier. She also said that it wasn't a matter of 'if' it would get here, but 'when'. That was her last public announcement.

Feb 25th: “As we’ve seen from recent countries with community spread, when it has hit those countries, it has moved quite rapidly. We want to make sure the American public is prepared,” Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters.

“As more and more countries experience community spread, successful containment at our borders becomes harder and harder,” she said.

"We expect we will see community spread in this country. It's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore, but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness."

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/cdc-...be-severe/


But in all honesty, the only thing any one of us needed to do was watch China shut down a huge chunk of its country in fast succession...

That told us the entire world was in trouble. The economy is global, you know. And if China did something so drastic to contain an outbreak, it only seemed logical to think the outbreak was really contagious and very very bad--no matter what numbers their officials released publicly.

I watched this 'flu' from the beginning. And I followed the anguished tweets and Instagram vids from the Chinese who were enduring it in Wuhan..till they were silenced.
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Make the World a better Place

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(05-19-2020 07:31 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:59 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:51 PM)danny1 Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:47 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 06:43 PM)danny1 Wrote:  What a laugh! If I remember correctly, someone said that the virus would not be a problem in the US, then that the 15 US cases would quickly go down to 0, then that the virus was a political hoax, then that he knew it was going to be a massive pandemic all along. The latest word from him is that it is simply going to disappear soon. Who is it that changes their minds almost hourly/daily as you say? Come on now - answer truthfully. I don’t think you can bring yourself to admit the truth even when you hear and see said person make these statements on multiple news broadcasts including Fox News. Some things just can’t be denied.

Fauci ?

Lol - try again

Laugh if you like----but I saw Fauci say it was not going to be a problem or big deal in AMERICA---like he has been wrong at every turn.

There's always at least one fall-guy. Fauci is that guy. He didn't become 'that guy' till he veered from the party line.

Here's your warning of what was to come:

On Feb 25th,The director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory said to get ready for a whopper headed our way. She was immediately silenced. That would be Dr. Nancy Messoonnier. She also said that it wasn't a matter of 'if' it would get here, but 'when'. That was her last public announcement.

Feb 25th: “As we’ve seen from recent countries with community spread, when it has hit those countries, it has moved quite rapidly. We want to make sure the American public is prepared,” Nancy Messonnier, director of CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told reporters.

“As more and more countries experience community spread, successful containment at our borders becomes harder and harder,” she said.

"We expect we will see community spread in this country. It's not so much a question of if this will happen anymore, but rather more a question of exactly when this will happen and how many people in this country will have severe illness."

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/cdc-...be-severe/


But in all honesty, the only thing any one of us needed to do was watch China shut down a huge chunk of its country in fast succession...

That told us the entire world was in trouble. The economy is global, you know. And if China did something so drastic to contain an outbreak, it only seemed logical to think the outbreak was really contagious and very very bad--no matter what numbers their officials released publicly.

I watched this 'flu' from the beginning. And I followed the anguished tweets and Instagram vids from the Chinese who were enduring it in Wuhan..till they were silenced.

Like it or not we need the community spread. The whole purpose of this shelter in place ideas was to protect the ability of the hospitals to handle the demand (which has not come outside of NYC & a few other hot spots). We know statistically who is most affected & with good sense they will continue to make good decisions. No valid science for the healthy to remain quarantined. We won't see the effects of this virus truly diminished until we reach societal exposure level that approaches 70%.
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(05-19-2020 09:20 AM)fsquid Wrote:  How about we schedule the games and if you want to go, go. If you are afraid or have someone vulnerable at home, don't. Done.

Amen brother!
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