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(05-20-2020 03:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 01:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 12:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 07:20 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 12:06 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  coaches can

Coaches who have compromised health know who they are & are likely smart enough to take appropriate precautions. For others covid-19 presents no more risk than the various flu viruses.
I won't bother with your last statement there....but

I'm curious. What appropriate precautions might those be---

Should the coaches who are at risk shelter in place..? Maintain 6 feet of separation between themselves and the team...? Wear a mask...? Stay out of the locker room....? Skip the away games...? Wear a mask ...? Wipe the football with disinfectants after each touch or perhaps wear protective gloves...? Wear a mask...?

Depends on the coach & the specifics of his/her compromised health. But healthy players & coaches have no more to be concerned about than the various flu strains.

Should they be concerned about going home?

This is what is so confusing about people who use this argument.

To be clear...I am not saying they shouldn't practice. All I am saying is this line of thinking is flawed.

If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?
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(05-20-2020 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 01:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 12:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 07:20 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Coaches who have compromised health know who they are & are likely smart enough to take appropriate precautions. For others covid-19 presents no more risk than the various flu viruses.
I won't bother with your last statement there....but

I'm curious. What appropriate precautions might those be---

Should the coaches who are at risk shelter in place..? Maintain 6 feet of separation between themselves and the team...? Wear a mask...? Stay out of the locker room....? Skip the away games...? Wear a mask ...? Wipe the football with disinfectants after each touch or perhaps wear protective gloves...? Wear a mask...?

Depends on the coach & the specifics of his/her compromised health. But healthy players & coaches have no more to be concerned about than the various flu strains.

Should they be concerned about going home?

This is what is so confusing about people who use this argument.

To be clear...I am not saying they shouldn't practice. All I am saying is this line of thinking is flawed.

If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?

If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.
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(05-19-2020 05:36 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Only sickos accuse others of thinking that anyone wants a pandemic to stick around--for. any. reason. what. so. ever.

Not sure about calling people "sickos" here, but I can agree that very, very few actually want the thing to stick around. And THEY are the sickos.

However, there are those who do want the THREAT to stick around so that they can leverage it. Some want to exert influence and this provides the vehicle.

Others wants to take down the man that they have been trying to take down for 4 years. This is really undeniable.
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(05-20-2020 06:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 01:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 12:32 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  I won't bother with your last statement there....but

I'm curious. What appropriate precautions might those be---

Should the coaches who are at risk shelter in place..? Maintain 6 feet of separation between themselves and the team...? Wear a mask...? Stay out of the locker room....? Skip the away games...? Wear a mask ...? Wipe the football with disinfectants after each touch or perhaps wear protective gloves...? Wear a mask...?

Depends on the coach & the specifics of his/her compromised health. But healthy players & coaches have no more to be concerned about than the various flu strains.

Should they be concerned about going home?

This is what is so confusing about people who use this argument.

To be clear...I am not saying they shouldn't practice. All I am saying is this line of thinking is flawed.

If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?

If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.

So your answer is quarantine - no answer at all. And BTW, there is no statistical evidence that healthy 50+ persons are at high risk. The high risk categories are those with compromised, underlying health conditions. And those folks know who they are.
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(05-20-2020 08:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 06:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 01:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Depends on the coach & the specifics of his/her compromised health. But healthy players & coaches have no more to be concerned about than the various flu strains.

Should they be concerned about going home?

This is what is so confusing about people who use this argument.

To be clear...I am not saying they shouldn't practice. All I am saying is this line of thinking is flawed.

If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?

If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.

So your answer is quarantine - no answer at all. And BTW, there is no statistical evidence that healthy 50+ persons are at high risk. The high risk categories are those with compromised, underlying health conditions. And those folks know who they are.

High Blood Pressure, Obesity...

Many parents have those issues...But Ok...You are of the mindset of thinning out the weak
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(05-20-2020 08:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 06:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 01:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Depends on the coach & the specifics of his/her compromised health. But healthy players & coaches have no more to be concerned about than the various flu strains.

Should they be concerned about going home?

This is what is so confusing about people who use this argument.

To be clear...I am not saying they shouldn't practice. All I am saying is this line of thinking is flawed.

If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?

If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.

So your answer is quarantine - no answer at all. And BTW, there is no statistical evidence that healthy 50+ persons are at high risk. The high risk categories are those with compromised, underlying health conditions. And those folks know who they are.

And don't forget that quarantine is not proving to be totally effective. Two-thirds of NY cases are people staying home. So unless the answer is now for everyone to live in total solitary isolation and never leave the house, staying home still leads to death - using gloomer logic.
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(05-20-2020 08:27 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 06:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Should they be concerned about going home?

This is what is so confusing about people who use this argument.

To be clear...I am not saying they shouldn't practice. All I am saying is this line of thinking is flawed.

If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?

If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.

So your answer is quarantine - no answer at all. And BTW, there is no statistical evidence that healthy 50+ persons are at high risk. The high risk categories are those with compromised, underlying health conditions. And those folks know who they are.

And don't forget that quarantine is not proving to be totally effective. Two-thirds of NY cases are people staying home. So unless the answer is now for everyone to live in total solitary isolation and never leave the house, staying home still leads to death - using gloomer logic.

But of course farmers are expected to supply food, the truckers are supposed to continue delivering, grocery stores & their "high paid" employees are to work thru it all so that we can "stay safe", sheltered at home with the gov shelling out & printing more money daily.
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Life must go on!
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I'm in central Iowa and it was just put out over the news stations that high school softball and baseball can start June 1. The season is later than the south due to weather. My two daughters just got word they made football and competition cheer and we are still unsure of when they can start practice. Rumor is June 1. We are very behind because they usually go to an all star gym in Omaha the first week of June and usually start practicing for the upcoming season first of May.

As far as I know no colleges in Iowa are practicing yet for college football. We had a spike with cases in the last month for Covid. Iowa is always a little late in everything.
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(05-20-2020 08:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 06:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 03:30 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Should they be concerned about going home?

This is what is so confusing about people who use this argument.

To be clear...I am not saying they shouldn't practice. All I am saying is this line of thinking is flawed.

If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?

If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.

So your answer is quarantine - no answer at all. And BTW, there is no statistical evidence that healthy 50+ persons are at high risk. The high risk categories are those with compromised, underlying health conditions. And those folks know who they are.

High Blood Pressure, Obesity...

Many parents have those issues...But Ok...You are of the mindset of thinning out the weak

Pretty sure kids don't wanna thin out their parents. Killing one's parents/grandparents ugh. The guilt/sadness/regret would be overwhelming.

Some of these sports guys need paid gladiators who live under the arenas
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(05-21-2020 01:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 06:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 05:20 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  If they are healthy, well, why not go home? BTW what exactly is flawed?

If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.

So your answer is quarantine - no answer at all. And BTW, there is no statistical evidence that healthy 50+ persons are at high risk. The high risk categories are those with compromised, underlying health conditions. And those folks know who they are.

High Blood Pressure, Obesity...

Many parents have those issues...But Ok...You are of the mindset of thinning out the weak

Pretty sure kids don't wanna thin out their parents. Killing one's parents/grandparents ugh. The guilt/sadness/regret would be overwhelming.

Some of these sports guys need paid gladiators who live under the arenas

No one said anything about thinning anyone out, unless you're referring to a couple of governors who forced nursing homes to take Covid patients. It's simple. Those that are compromised know who they are & if smart will take the necessary precautions. Decisions are never black & white but you don't shut the world down because less than .1% of the population "might" be vulnerable. We don't do that for pneumonia, heart disease, the flu etc. and these are bigger killers of the aged & compromised.
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(05-21-2020 08:30 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-21-2020 01:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 08:06 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(05-20-2020 06:16 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  If you live with 50+ year old parents. If the kid gets infected he likely infects the household who are in a more at risk population.

So your answer is quarantine - no answer at all. And BTW, there is no statistical evidence that healthy 50+ persons are at high risk. The high risk categories are those with compromised, underlying health conditions. And those folks know who they are.

High Blood Pressure, Obesity...

Many parents have those issues...But Ok...You are of the mindset of thinning out the weak

Pretty sure kids don't wanna thin out their parents. Killing one's parents/grandparents ugh. The guilt/sadness/regret would be overwhelming.

Some of these sports guys need paid gladiators who live under the arenas

No one said anything about thinning anyone out, unless you're referring to a couple of governors who forced nursing homes to take Covid patients. It's simple. Those that are compromised know who they are & if smart will take the necessary precautions. Decisions are never black & white but you don't shut the world down because less than .1% of the population "might" be vulnerable. We don't do that for pneumonia, heart disease, the flu etc. and these are bigger killers of the aged & compromised.

Absolutely!
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https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...e-football


Every day is roughly the same for McKenzie Milton. The UCF quarterback drives from his off-campus apartment to the team's football complex, where he has received permission to use the facility to continue his rehabilitation following a gruesome injury to his right leg nearly 18 months ago.

Before entering the building, he gets a forehead scan for a quick temperature check Then he washes his hands. Masks are required, and equipment must be wiped down after each use. He also must stay 6 feet apart from other players who are there. .

But then, about a week ago, his throat started to hurt. He stayed home. When he developed a slight fever, he started to panic. Milton drove himself to a COVID-19 drive-through testing center located in a parking garage on the UCF campus, where medical personnel administered a diagnostic test by pushing a long swab up his nose.

His eyes watered. "It was terrible," he says, "but better safe than sorry."

He got the results the following day: He tested negative. Within a few days, the fever was gone and he felt like himself again. Milton missed two days of physical therapy, but while he awaited the test results, he could not help but think about all the people he had interacted with on a daily basis after he decided to stay in Orlando and continue with his daily rehab instead of returning home to Hawaii.

"I would have felt bad if I was around people and was sick and the possibility of our physical therapy having to get quarantined because of me," Milton said.

What happened to Milton gets to the heart of the question of how and when to resume sports safely after the coronavirus pandemic forced the entire sports world to shut down in March.


"This is not simple," American Athletic Conference commissioner Mike Aresco said. "It's easy to say we're going to test everybody, but what does that mean and how is it going to be done? That's going to be the key to everything we're doing. We have to get it right."
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I have awoken every morning with a hacking cough and chest congestion for the past 50 years. People avoid me these days where ever i go.
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Just wear a mask. Saban yells at Big Al for not wearing one.

"All of us want to make sure we play football this Fall. And to make that happen we must be sure to stay at home if we have symptoms....Wash your hands often, follow all social distancing guidelines and PLEASE wear a mask when you're around other people."


https://fanbuzz.com/college-football/sec...g-al-mask/
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