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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
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(05-17-2020 12:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Yup. As someone who has lived Columbus and now lives in Loveland I have these discussions with people all the time:

Loveland/Mason/West Chester Dad: Oh my god, I am not sending my daughter down to the hood (UC). She is going to OSU.

The fact is that part of Columbus might be worse than Clifton, especially when you pull up the crime reports and see all the rapes, murders, and other varieties of crime. For some reason, people think when they go to OSU they will be in a suburban setting.

They get their news from Cincinnati so they aren't as aware of the crime in CBus. Crime is as bad or worse in the Short North and High Street as it is in Clifton.

Interesting to compare the top feeder schools for UC and OSU.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/n...g/461451/1

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/new...g/442138/1

A lot of Cincinnati and Cleveland on the OSU list.

From SW Ohio: Ursiline (25), Lakota West (23), Centerville (17), Sycamore (14), St. X (3), William Mason (1)

UC's list is all SW Ohio (Centerville is the furthest away from campus).

That's a lot of room to grow our brand awareness around the state, and touching on what's said above, a key component of that should be highlighting the changes to both campus and OTR.

Anecdotal but I knew a massive amount of Cleveland people while at UC. It seemed that for every 1 columbus student I met, I met 2 or 3 cleveland students.

Cleveland metro is 2-3 times larger by population, so that would make sense. There are a TON of Cleveland kids at UT too.

Good point. I guess what I was getting at is that I was just shocked with how many Clevelanders go to UC. I didn't think I would encounter as many as I did throughout my years on campus.
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-17-2020 08:52 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 08:24 PM)Cattidude Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 12:56 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 12:34 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 12:20 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Yup. As someone who has lived Columbus and now lives in Loveland I have these discussions with people all the time:

Loveland/Mason/West Chester Dad: Oh my god, I am not sending my daughter down to the hood (UC). She is going to OSU.

The fact is that part of Columbus might be worse than Clifton, especially when you pull up the crime reports and see all the rapes, murders, and other varieties of crime. For some reason, people think when they go to OSU they will be in a suburban setting.

They get their news from Cincinnati so they aren't as aware of the crime in CBus. Crime is as bad or worse in the Short North and High Street as it is in Clifton.

Interesting to compare the top feeder schools for UC and OSU.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/n...g/461451/1

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/new...g/442138/1

A lot of Cincinnati and Cleveland on the OSU list.

From SW Ohio: Ursiline (25), Lakota West (23), Centerville (17), Sycamore (14), St. X (3), William Mason (1)

UC's list is all SW Ohio (Centerville is the furthest away from campus).

That's a lot of room to grow our brand awareness around the state, and touching on what's said above, a key component of that should be highlighting the changes to both campus and OTR.

Anecdotal but I knew a massive amount of Cleveland people while at UC. It seemed that for every 1 columbus student I met, I met 2 or 3 cleveland students.

Cleveland metro is 2-3 times larger by population, so that would make sense. There are a TON of Cleveland kids at UT too.

Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland metros are all neck and neck right now in terms of population. Columbus will pass Cincinnati very soon for top spot.
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 05:59 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 08:52 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 08:24 PM)Cattidude Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 12:56 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 12:34 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  They get their news from Cincinnati so they aren't as aware of the crime in CBus. Crime is as bad or worse in the Short North and High Street as it is in Clifton.

Interesting to compare the top feeder schools for UC and OSU.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/n...g/461451/1

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/new...g/442138/1

A lot of Cincinnati and Cleveland on the OSU list.

From SW Ohio: Ursiline (25), Lakota West (23), Centerville (17), Sycamore (14), St. X (3), William Mason (1)

UC's list is all SW Ohio (Centerville is the furthest away from campus).

That's a lot of room to grow our brand awareness around the state, and touching on what's said above, a key component of that should be highlighting the changes to both campus and OTR.

Anecdotal but I knew a massive amount of Cleveland people while at UC. It seemed that for every 1 columbus student I met, I met 2 or 3 cleveland students.

Cleveland metro is 2-3 times larger by population, so that would make sense. There are a TON of Cleveland kids at UT too.

Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland metros are all neck and neck right now in terms of population. Columbus will pass Cincinnati very soon for top spot.

Yeah but that's metro area, not people who claim to be from the area.

Columbus metro includes Zanesville and Marion. I don't think people who live there claim to be from Columbus.

Cleveland metro does not even include Hudson or Twinsburg. That's part of the separate Akron metro area.
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 06:51 AM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 05:59 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 08:52 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 08:24 PM)Cattidude Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 12:56 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  Interesting to compare the top feeder schools for UC and OSU.

https://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/n...g/461451/1

https://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/new...g/442138/1

A lot of Cincinnati and Cleveland on the OSU list.

From SW Ohio: Ursiline (25), Lakota West (23), Centerville (17), Sycamore (14), St. X (3), William Mason (1)

UC's list is all SW Ohio (Centerville is the furthest away from campus).

That's a lot of room to grow our brand awareness around the state, and touching on what's said above, a key component of that should be highlighting the changes to both campus and OTR.

Anecdotal but I knew a massive amount of Cleveland people while at UC. It seemed that for every 1 columbus student I met, I met 2 or 3 cleveland students.

Cleveland metro is 2-3 times larger by population, so that would make sense. There are a TON of Cleveland kids at UT too.

Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland metros are all neck and neck right now in terms of population. Columbus will pass Cincinnati very soon for top spot.

Yeah but that's metro area, not people who claim to be from the area.

Columbus metro includes Zanesville and Marion. I don't think people who live there claim to be from Columbus.

Cleveland metro does not even include Hudson or Twinsburg. That's part of the separate Akron metro area.

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielse...ings-2020/

Depends on who's definition and for what purpose. For realignment purposes, we have focused on TV DMA, in which Cleveland includes Canton and Akron, but we don't include Dayton. That is a big swing...add in Dayton and we're virtually neck and neck ranking around 20th in the number of homes with a TV. This is not population, though and strays from the point. I agree we need to pimp ourselves in NEO, but from a practical stand point, there are not 2-3 times more people in greater Cleveland than greater Cincinnati.
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 09:51 AM)Teakwood Wrote:  
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(05-17-2020 08:24 PM)Cattidude Wrote:  Anecdotal but I knew a massive amount of Cleveland people while at UC. It seemed that for every 1 columbus student I met, I met 2 or 3 cleveland students.

Cleveland metro is 2-3 times larger by population, so that would make sense. There are a TON of Cleveland kids at UT too.

Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland metros are all neck and neck right now in terms of population. Columbus will pass Cincinnati very soon for top spot.

Yeah but that's metro area, not people who claim to be from the area.

Columbus metro includes Zanesville and Marion. I don't think people who live there claim to be from Columbus.

Cleveland metro does not even include Hudson or Twinsburg. That's part of the separate Akron metro area.

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielse...ings-2020/

Depends on who's definition and for what purpose. For realignment purposes, we have focused on TV DMA, in which Cleveland includes Canton and Akron, but we don't include Dayton. That is a big swing...add in Dayton and we're virtually neck and neck ranking around 20th in the number of homes with a TV. This is not population, though and strays from the point. I agree we need to pimp ourselves in NEO, but from a practical stand point, there are not 2-3 times more people in greater Cleveland than greater Cincinnati.

My post was comparing the Cleveland and Columbus areas, as that's what the post I referenced was doing. Cleveland "area" has roughly 4.5M whereas Columbus is at about 2.2M. Didnt realize the City of Columbus was 14th largest city in the nation though...man theyve blown up. Helps to have an insanely large geographic footprint, but still.
 
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I knew many people from Cleveland when I was on campus, especially in the engineering program.

They told me that UC was as far away as they could get from Cleveland and still pay in-state tuition.
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 10:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
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(05-17-2020 08:52 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Cleveland metro is 2-3 times larger by population, so that would make sense. There are a TON of Cleveland kids at UT too.

Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland metros are all neck and neck right now in terms of population. Columbus will pass Cincinnati very soon for top spot.

Yeah but that's metro area, not people who claim to be from the area.

Columbus metro includes Zanesville and Marion. I don't think people who live there claim to be from Columbus.

Cleveland metro does not even include Hudson or Twinsburg. That's part of the separate Akron metro area.

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielse...ings-2020/

Depends on who's definition and for what purpose. For realignment purposes, we have focused on TV DMA, in which Cleveland includes Canton and Akron, but we don't include Dayton. That is a big swing...add in Dayton and we're virtually neck and neck ranking around 20th in the number of homes with a TV. This is not population, though and strays from the point. I agree we need to pimp ourselves in NEO, but from a practical stand point, there are not 2-3 times more people in greater Cleveland than greater Cincinnati.

My post was comparing the Cleveland and Columbus areas, as that's what the post I referenced was doing. Cleveland "area" has roughly 4.5M whereas Columbus is at about 2.2M. Didnt realize the City of Columbus was 14th largest city in the nation though...man theyve blown up. Helps to have an insanely large geographic footprint, but still.

Bolded, yes! There is no denying that Columbus has had real population growth but much of the City of Cincinnati footprint includes numerous cities, villages or townships that, if included, would "grow" the city population overnight (for example, Norwood, a city of 20,000 is surrounded almost completely by the city of Cincinnati).

Cincinnati is the #30 metro area @ 2.2 million. Columbus is #32 @ 2.1 million. Dayton is #73 @ 800,000 (U.S. Office of Management and Budget data). Increasingly, it can be argued that Dayton is to Cincinnati as Fort Worth is to Dallas. Once you leave the Columbus metro, there is no similar population center to Dayton that could be added to ever consider Columbus larger than what is emerging as a Cincy/Dayton metroplex.

Regarding Ohio student recruitment, I too recall many more Cleveland students at UC than kids from Columbus but my evidence is purely anecdotal. I don't discount the phantom fear factor of suburban families steering kids away from UC. Although I think significant inroads have been made in that cohort and we will continue to see that happening. Anecdotally, again, I'll give some credit to FC Cincinnati for bringing young suburban families to Nippert who discover how great the campus and the Clifton area have become. Times Square went from "unsafe" to the top family tourist area in NYC. Old perceptions take time to dislodge but it can be done. Based on recent enrollment growth, UC appears to be doing a pretty fine job.
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 10:28 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:02 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 09:51 AM)Teakwood Wrote:  
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(05-18-2020 05:59 AM)cmhcat Wrote:  Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland metros are all neck and neck right now in terms of population. Columbus will pass Cincinnati very soon for top spot.

Yeah but that's metro area, not people who claim to be from the area.

Columbus metro includes Zanesville and Marion. I don't think people who live there claim to be from Columbus.

Cleveland metro does not even include Hudson or Twinsburg. That's part of the separate Akron metro area.

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielse...ings-2020/

Depends on who's definition and for what purpose. For realignment purposes, we have focused on TV DMA, in which Cleveland includes Canton and Akron, but we don't include Dayton. That is a big swing...add in Dayton and we're virtually neck and neck ranking around 20th in the number of homes with a TV. This is not population, though and strays from the point. I agree we need to pimp ourselves in NEO, but from a practical stand point, there are not 2-3 times more people in greater Cleveland than greater Cincinnati.

My post was comparing the Cleveland and Columbus areas, as that's what the post I referenced was doing. Cleveland "area" has roughly 4.5M whereas Columbus is at about 2.2M. Didnt realize the City of Columbus was 14th largest city in the nation though...man theyve blown up. Helps to have an insanely large geographic footprint, but still.

Bolded, yes! There is no denying that Columbus has had real population growth but much of the City of Cincinnati footprint includes numerous cities, villages or townships that, if included, would "grow" the city population overnight (for example, Norwood, a city of 20,000 is surrounded almost completely by the city of Cincinnati).

Cincinnati is the #30 metro area @ 2.2 million. Columbus is #32 @ 2.1 million. Dayton is #73 @ 800,000 (U.S. Office of Management and Budget data). Increasingly, it can be argued that Dayton is to Cincinnati as Fort Worth is to Dallas. Once you leave the Columbus metro, there is no similar population center to Dayton that could be added to ever consider Columbus larger than what is emerging as a Cincy/Dayton metroplex.

Regarding Ohio student recruitment, I too recall many more Cleveland students at UC than kids from Columbus but my evidence is purely anecdotal. I don't discount the phantom fear factor of suburban families steering kids away from UC. Although I think significant inroads have been made in that cohort and we will continue to see that happening. Anecdotally, again, I'll give some credit to FC Cincinnati for bringing young suburban families to Nippert who discover how great the campus and the Clifton area have become. Times Square went from "unsafe" to the top family tourist area in NYC. Old perceptions take time to dislodge but it can be done. Based on recent enrollment growth, UC appears to be doing a pretty fine job.

I think when most people talk about a city's size, they're referring to the cultural reach.

Cleveland has the biggest cultural reach of any city in Ohio. Cincinnati is a somewhat close second, and Columbus is clearly a distant 3rd.

Metro areas are measured by the census bureau to track economic reach, which is very different.
 
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(05-17-2020 03:14 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
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(05-17-2020 01:13 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^ UC should be striving to get more kids from Greater Columbus. There are a lot of fine suburban schools, and I am willing to bet that behind OSU the #2 option for those kids are another B10 school or Ohio University.

One of the things that I'd love to see is the state cap OSU's freshman classes at 6K/year. Or more likely politically, it's something that OSU does voluntarily in exchange for things it wants. That would free up about a thousand high quality kids. Most would end up at another Ohio public, and I think UC is in the best position to get them, even ahead of Miami.

I think you're vastly overestimating how many in-state students end up in Columbus for their freshmen years. OSU's Main Campus incoming classes are pretty much 50/50 between in-state and OOS students now. That's actually the reason why everyone else in the state has been having "record breaking achievement" in their intake classes...OSU is taking less in-staters, and they're choosing other schools. That's what got UC where they are now, they jumped on that boat far earlier than most of the other schools and made it work to their advantage in the late 2000's. Essentially it was a "would you rather spend 1 year in Lima/Mansfield/Newark and 3 in Columbus, or 4 in Cincinnati?" People started picking the latter and the rest is history.

I think you know just as well as I do that there is no way an administration would ever cap an enrollment quota, especially from their home state. That's just taking your whole budget to Vegas and betting it on black.

Oh, I don't think it would he something they would just voluntarily agree to do. They'd need something in return, and my guess is that it would be something along the lines of autonomy from the rest of the system, a separate funding model that makes up for lost tuition and room and board revenue, consolidation of poorly ranked grad programs around the state and some kind of statement once and for all on their flagship status. As a bonus, their admissions selectivity immediately shoots up to the Michigan or Berkeley level.

In exchange the other schools get an influx of over a thousand kids whose stats would make them more than welcome elsewhere. This in a time of demographic challenges and declining enrollment throughout the system.

And UC has absolutely made a wise choice to recruit those kids that OSU wants to relegate to a branch campus. And there's still plenty more to do there. I looked at the common data sets for their Newark and Mansfield branches. You'd be shocked at how many kids they're luring there who have ACTs in the high 20s and even 30+.
 
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(05-18-2020 11:29 AM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
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(05-17-2020 01:24 PM)Bearcat 1985 Wrote:  
(05-17-2020 01:13 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  ^ UC should be striving to get more kids from Greater Columbus. There are a lot of fine suburban schools, and I am willing to bet that behind OSU the #2 option for those kids are another B10 school or Ohio University.

One of the things that I'd love to see is the state cap OSU's freshman classes at 6K/year. Or more likely politically, it's something that OSU does voluntarily in exchange for things it wants. That would free up about a thousand high quality kids. Most would end up at another Ohio public, and I think UC is in the best position to get them, even ahead of Miami.

I think you're vastly overestimating how many in-state students end up in Columbus for their freshmen years. OSU's Main Campus incoming classes are pretty much 50/50 between in-state and OOS students now. That's actually the reason why everyone else in the state has been having "record breaking achievement" in their intake classes...OSU is taking less in-staters, and they're choosing other schools. That's what got UC where they are now, they jumped on that boat far earlier than most of the other schools and made it work to their advantage in the late 2000's. Essentially it was a "would you rather spend 1 year in Lima/Mansfield/Newark and 3 in Columbus, or 4 in Cincinnati?" People started picking the latter and the rest is history.

I think you know just as well as I do that there is no way an administration would ever cap an enrollment quota, especially from their home state. That's just taking your whole budget to Vegas and betting it on black.

Oh, I don't think it would he something they would just voluntarily agree to do. They'd need something in return, and my guess is that it would be something along the lines of autonomy from the rest of the system, a separate funding model that makes up for lost tuition and room and board revenue, consolidation of poorly ranked grad programs around the state and some kind of statement once and for all on their flagship status. As a bonus, their admissions selectivity immediately shoots up to the Michigan or Berkeley level.

In exchange the other schools get an influx of over a thousand kids whose stats would make them more than welcome elsewhere. This in a time of demographic challenges and declining enrollment throughout the system.

And UC has absolutely made a wise choice to recruit those kids that OSU wants to relegate to a branch campus. And there's still plenty more to do there. I looked at the common data sets for their Newark and Mansfield branches. You'd be shocked at how many kids they're luring there who have ACTs in the high 20s and even 30+.

I can not understand why anyone in their right mind would spend even 1 year at a tOSU branch campus in Mansfield, Newark, etc. Talk about putting on a freshman 15 or 30 with nothing to do but eat (and drink beer in your dorm) because you aren't even old enough to go to bars.
 
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This should be good for recruiting. lol.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-oversight
 
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(05-18-2020 12:08 PM)dsquare Wrote:  This should be good for recruiting. lol.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-oversight

Imagine that, a scandal @ Kentucky.
 
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(05-18-2020 12:22 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 12:08 PM)dsquare Wrote:  This should be good for recruiting. lol.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-oversight

Imagine that, a scandal @ Kentucky.

I have a friend, known her since we were in grade school, had some fun in college, all that jazz, who was a UK Cheerleader...the stories she told me were pretty horrifying.
 
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(05-18-2020 12:08 PM)dsquare Wrote:  This should be good for recruiting. lol.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-oversight

Lack of oversight of "public nudity and alcohol use". Where does one apply for that job?
 
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Furman drops their baseball program.


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The East Carolina posters are saying there was a BOT meeting at their school, recommendations to eliminate an Olympic sport, reduce travel budgets, take on more buy games, among other recommendations to help with budget issues.
 
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(05-18-2020 12:25 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
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(05-18-2020 12:08 PM)dsquare Wrote:  This should be good for recruiting. lol.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-oversight

Imagine that, a scandal @ Kentucky.

I have a friend, known her since we were in grade school, had some fun in college, all that jazz, who was a UK Cheerleader...the stories she told me were pretty horrifying.

I read through the report because hazing stories have always interested me. It says several times that "There is no indication that the individuals engaging in this behavior found it to be unwanted or unwelcome."

Are you saying that part of the report was likely false? (Wouldn't surprise me either way).
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 03:09 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 12:25 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 12:22 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 12:08 PM)dsquare Wrote:  This should be good for recruiting. lol.

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/stor...-oversight

Imagine that, a scandal @ Kentucky.

I have a friend, known her since we were in grade school, had some fun in college, all that jazz, who was a UK Cheerleader...the stories she told me were pretty horrifying.

I read through the report because hazing stories have always interested me. It says several times that "There is no indication that the individuals engaging in this behavior found it to be unwanted or unwelcome."

Are you saying that part of the report was likely false? (Wouldn't surprise me either way).

I said they horrified me...she loved being a UK cheerleader 03-lmfao
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 03:05 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  The East Carolina posters are saying there was a BOT meeting at their school, recommendations to eliminate an Olympic sport, reduce travel budgets, take on more buy games, among other recommendations to help with budget issues.

Does this mean we wont have to worry about ECU scheduling D2 basketball games or three FCS football games in a season again?
 
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RE: Athletic Department COVID-19 Hit List: Growing Longer
(05-18-2020 03:00 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Furman drops their baseball program.

Yup. Add Wisky-Green Bay to the list...

Old Dominion - Wrestling
Cincinnati - Men's Soccer
Florida International - Men's Track, 22 AD employees furloughed, AD Director Pete Garcia deferring salary for one year
Akron - Men's Cross Country, Men's Golf, Women's Tennis
Bowling Green - Baseball
Furman - Baseball
Wisconsin-Green Bay Men's and Women's Tennis

Running list of NCAA sports that won’t be returning after the Covid-19 pandemic.
 
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