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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
(07-11-2020 12:52 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 11:02 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 10:49 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote:  NMSU always plays UTEP twice, that is not something he did at all. Do not give him credit for that. When the UTEP AD stopped the football game it was ugly. UTEP understands that they are as isolated as NMSU, and that if either side gets to antagnostic, both lose in the scheduling department. For volleyball they bring in teams that will play both schools, it is a selling point two games for one. Basketball, on the women's side and men's as well still do it, just not to the same extent as in the past. In the changing world of college athletics, I think it is impossible to underestimate the challenge of the isolation of scheduling that NMSU will have. I think that, moreso than anything else is what will eventually force NMSU to make a decision on where they stand.

While I admire your purple blood that you bleed, I hope you are ready for the steep learning curve that the teams are set for. I think that the school has made a splash with their hire. If that splash is going to be good in the long-run or not is another story. Splashes are great in cannonball contests, but in diving, not so much. I am grateful that Tarleton is in the conference.

We bleed the purple blood because we've been winning for a long, long time. Albeit at a different level, but the high expectations of a winning program is a powerful thing. We'll win in the WAC, maybe not as soon as I'd like, but we will get there. What y'all need to realize is its much more than a recent quality coaching hire, we've already had that for the past 30 years. BCG and the WAC helps to bring exposure to Tarleton so the rest of the world can see what we already know. I will say that BCG and Tarleton are a perfect fit. I can't think of anybody more qualified to carry on the great legacy of Lonn Reisman. BCG literally grew up just down the road from Tarleton. He knows and respects Tarleton's history better than anyone, and now has Lonn as his AD. We have a great storied program thats now in the hands of the epitome of a Coach & AD Dynamic Duo. You bet I'm fired up about it. Can't wait to see what these two accomplish together. I guarantee you it will be fun to watch, so get your popcorn ready!
IT,


You talk about NMSU dodging big games and scheduling cream puffs, but Tarleton has a long history of scheduling NAIA and lesser D2 schools to pad our win total (or total home games). How many times did we schedule the Arlington Baptist and Southwest Assembly of Gods of the world?

Even last year, we didn't schedule the home football opener against a regional rival or a National top 25... instead we brought in Doane, a private NAIA from Nebraska to al but guarantee an easy win.

I like the paycheck games right now because it is getting our name out there and gives our fans something to be excited about while we cannot go to the tourney.

Eventually we will schedule schedule some of our former conference mates or a regional D3 school the way (including some of our D1 neighbors in the metroplex and central Texas) have.


As others may have mentioned, NMSU may choose or be required to play the NMMI or Western NM of the world to keep money in the state.

I'm sure down the road, the powers that be in College Station will encourage A&M to schedule Tarleton, Corpus and PV to keep money in the system. Likewise we will be asked to buy OOC games from WT, Commerce, and Kingsville.

Having said all that, I think you"re missing the point. Tell me how the WAC progresses to a multi-bid conference without changing its ways. NMSU wins WAC, gets the lone bid, loses Round 1, Repeat. For how many years now?
Tarleton was in the LSC, so yes they scheduled cream puffs in OOC to prepare for a brutal conference schedule, where more often than not, the top 3 schools in the LSC are in the regional top 5. Most importantly, how many times did you see multiple LSC schools in the D2 tourney?
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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
(07-11-2020 01:24 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 12:52 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 11:02 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 10:49 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote:  NMSU always plays UTEP twice, that is not something he did at all. Do not give him credit for that. When the UTEP AD stopped the football game it was ugly. UTEP understands that they are as isolated as NMSU, and that if either side gets to antagnostic, both lose in the scheduling department. For volleyball they bring in teams that will play both schools, it is a selling point two games for one. Basketball, on the women's side and men's as well still do it, just not to the same extent as in the past. In the changing world of college athletics, I think it is impossible to underestimate the challenge of the isolation of scheduling that NMSU will have. I think that, moreso than anything else is what will eventually force NMSU to make a decision on where they stand.

While I admire your purple blood that you bleed, I hope you are ready for the steep learning curve that the teams are set for. I think that the school has made a splash with their hire. If that splash is going to be good in the long-run or not is another story. Splashes are great in cannonball contests, but in diving, not so much. I am grateful that Tarleton is in the conference.

We bleed the purple blood because we've been winning for a long, long time. Albeit at a different level, but the high expectations of a winning program is a powerful thing. We'll win in the WAC, maybe not as soon as I'd like, but we will get there. What y'all need to realize is its much more than a recent quality coaching hire, we've already had that for the past 30 years. BCG and the WAC helps to bring exposure to Tarleton so the rest of the world can see what we already know. I will say that BCG and Tarleton are a perfect fit. I can't think of anybody more qualified to carry on the great legacy of Lonn Reisman. BCG literally grew up just down the road from Tarleton. He knows and respects Tarleton's history better than anyone, and now has Lonn as his AD. We have a great storied program thats now in the hands of the epitome of a Coach & AD Dynamic Duo. You bet I'm fired up about it. Can't wait to see what these two accomplish together. I guarantee you it will be fun to watch, so get your popcorn ready!
IT,


You talk about NMSU dodging big games and scheduling cream puffs, but Tarleton has a long history of scheduling NAIA and lesser D2 schools to pad our win total (or total home games). How many times did we schedule the Arlington Baptist and Southwest Assembly of Gods of the world?

Even last year, we didn't schedule the home football opener against a regional rival or a National top 25... instead we brought in Doane, a private NAIA from Nebraska to al but guarantee an easy win.

I like the paycheck games right now because it is getting our name out there and gives our fans something to be excited about while we cannot go to the tourney.

Eventually we will schedule schedule some of our former conference mates or a regional D3 school the way (including some of our D1 neighbors in the metroplex and central Texas) have.


As others may have mentioned, NMSU may choose or be required to play the NMMI or Western NM of the world to keep money in the state.

I'm sure down the road, the powers that be in College Station will encourage A&M to schedule Tarleton, Corpus and PV to keep money in the system. Likewise we will be asked to buy OOC games from WT, Commerce, and Kingsville.

Having said all that, I think you"re missing the point. Tell me how the WAC progresses to a multi-bid conference without changing its ways. NMSU wins WAC, gets the lone bid, loses Round 1, Repeat. For how many years now?
Tarleton was in the LSC, so yes they scheduled cream puffs in OOC to prepare for a brutal conference schedule, where more often than not, the top 3 schools in the LSC are in the regional top 5. Most importantly, how many times did you see multiple LSC schools in the D2 tourney?

It takes two to schedule a game, not like NMSU can just go up to Duke or I of Kentucky and demand a game.
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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
(07-11-2020 09:37 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 09:18 AM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(07-10-2020 10:47 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-10-2020 08:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  New Mexico St vs Northern Iowa in Sioux Falls. UNI returns its top 2 scorers including future NBA’er AJ Green from a team that hovered 26-35 in the polls most of last season.

Yawn. Tarleton scheduled Gonzaga, who hovered 1-2 in the polls last season. Why? Conference and institutional exposure. I see other teams in the WAC taking the same type of risk, and making the same type of sacrifice, for the betterment of the conference.
NMSU really needs to step up for the WAC and drop their silly little annual D2 and NAIA bully fest. Time for NMSU to grow a pair and play some games the networks and press actually want to pick up. No risk, no reward.
Yawn yourself. Everyone wants to schedule Tarleton cause easy win. No one wants to schedule NMSU pard.

Oh, the ol' "they're just scared to play us" routine.

If that's true, help me make sense of this...

https://nmstatesports.com/documents/2019...obile=true

Nope, I think you guys just enjoy beating up on the New Mexico Military Institute's of the world, and gliding into conference play with a bloated record and a few "games" (scrimmages) under your belt. Aka the safe and easy route. And the WAC continues to be a one-bid conference. It's a selfish strategy, pard.

NMSU played that AZ game when they had three players out with season ending injuries....starting guards AJ Harris and Clayton Henry; and big man Wilfried Likayi. Also, at the time, the eventual starting guard (in AJ Harris' absence) Evan Gilyard was not yet eligible. If you notice, once Harris and Gilyard joined the active roster, NMSU defeated Mississippi State in Jackson, MS. Their presence gave NMSU to exceptional floor generals and amped up our defensive intensity.

https://nmstatesports.com/boxscore.aspx?...ll&id=9894
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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
(07-11-2020 01:24 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 12:52 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 11:02 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 10:49 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote:  NMSU always plays UTEP twice, that is not something he did at all. Do not give him credit for that. When the UTEP AD stopped the football game it was ugly. UTEP understands that they are as isolated as NMSU, and that if either side gets to antagnostic, both lose in the scheduling department. For volleyball they bring in teams that will play both schools, it is a selling point two games for one. Basketball, on the women's side and men's as well still do it, just not to the same extent as in the past. In the changing world of college athletics, I think it is impossible to underestimate the challenge of the isolation of scheduling that NMSU will have. I think that, moreso than anything else is what will eventually force NMSU to make a decision on where they stand.

While I admire your purple blood that you bleed, I hope you are ready for the steep learning curve that the teams are set for. I think that the school has made a splash with their hire. If that splash is going to be good in the long-run or not is another story. Splashes are great in cannonball contests, but in diving, not so much. I am grateful that Tarleton is in the conference.

We bleed the purple blood because we've been winning for a long, long time. Albeit at a different level, but the high expectations of a winning program is a powerful thing. We'll win in the WAC, maybe not as soon as I'd like, but we will get there. What y'all need to realize is its much more than a recent quality coaching hire, we've already had that for the past 30 years. BCG and the WAC helps to bring exposure to Tarleton so the rest of the world can see what we already know. I will say that BCG and Tarleton are a perfect fit. I can't think of anybody more qualified to carry on the great legacy of Lonn Reisman. BCG literally grew up just down the road from Tarleton. He knows and respects Tarleton's history better than anyone, and now has Lonn as his AD. We have a great storied program thats now in the hands of the epitome of a Coach & AD Dynamic Duo. You bet I'm fired up about it. Can't wait to see what these two accomplish together. I guarantee you it will be fun to watch, so get your popcorn ready!
IT,


You talk about NMSU dodging big games and scheduling cream puffs, but Tarleton has a long history of scheduling NAIA and lesser D2 schools to pad our win total (or total home games). How many times did we schedule the Arlington Baptist and Southwest Assembly of Gods of the world?

Even last year, we didn't schedule the home football opener against a regional rival or a National top 25... instead we brought in Doane, a private NAIA from Nebraska to al but guarantee an easy win.

I like the paycheck games right now because it is getting our name out there and gives our fans something to be excited about while we cannot go to the tourney.

Eventually we will schedule schedule some of our former conference mates or a regional D3 school the way (including some of our D1 neighbors in the metroplex and central Texas) have.


As others may have mentioned, NMSU may choose or be required to play the NMMI or Western NM of the world to keep money in the state.

I'm sure down the road, the powers that be in College Station will encourage A&M to schedule Tarleton, Corpus and PV to keep money in the system. Likewise we will be asked to buy OOC games from WT, Commerce, and Kingsville.

Having said all that, I think you"re missing the point. Tell me how the WAC progresses to a multi-bid conference without changing its ways. NMSU wins WAC, gets the lone bid, loses Round 1, Repeat. For how many years now?
Tarleton was in the LSC, so yes they scheduled cream puffs in OOC to prepare for a brutal conference schedule, where more often than not, the top 3 schools in the LSC are in the regional top 5. Most importantly, how many times did you see multiple LSC schools in the D2 tourney?

Why are you placing the onus to improve the bid count on NMSU solely? Looking at last year's standings 3 teams finished the regular season with a winning record. 1/3 of the conference from last year.
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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
(07-11-2020 01:24 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 12:52 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 11:02 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 10:49 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote:  NMSU always plays UTEP twice, that is not something he did at all. Do not give him credit for that. When the UTEP AD stopped the football game it was ugly. UTEP understands that they are as isolated as NMSU, and that if either side gets to antagnostic, both lose in the scheduling department. For volleyball they bring in teams that will play both schools, it is a selling point two games for one. Basketball, on the women's side and men's as well still do it, just not to the same extent as in the past. In the changing world of college athletics, I think it is impossible to underestimate the challenge of the isolation of scheduling that NMSU will have. I think that, moreso than anything else is what will eventually force NMSU to make a decision on where they stand.

While I admire your purple blood that you bleed, I hope you are ready for the steep learning curve that the teams are set for. I think that the school has made a splash with their hire. If that splash is going to be good in the long-run or not is another story. Splashes are great in cannonball contests, but in diving, not so much. I am grateful that Tarleton is in the conference.

We bleed the purple blood because we've been winning for a long, long time. Albeit at a different level, but the high expectations of a winning program is a powerful thing. We'll win in the WAC, maybe not as soon as I'd like, but we will get there. What y'all need to realize is its much more than a recent quality coaching hire, we've already had that for the past 30 years. BCG and the WAC helps to bring exposure to Tarleton so the rest of the world can see what we already know. I will say that BCG and Tarleton are a perfect fit. I can't think of anybody more qualified to carry on the great legacy of Lonn Reisman. BCG literally grew up just down the road from Tarleton. He knows and respects Tarleton's history better than anyone, and now has Lonn as his AD. We have a great storied program thats now in the hands of the epitome of a Coach & AD Dynamic Duo. You bet I'm fired up about it. Can't wait to see what these two accomplish together. I guarantee you it will be fun to watch, so get your popcorn ready!
IT,


You talk about NMSU dodging big games and scheduling cream puffs, but Tarleton has a long history of scheduling NAIA and lesser D2 schools to pad our win total (or total home games). How many times did we schedule the Arlington Baptist and Southwest Assembly of Gods of the world?

Even last year, we didn't schedule the home football opener against a regional rival or a National top 25... instead we brought in Doane, a private NAIA from Nebraska to al but guarantee an easy win.

I like the paycheck games right now because it is getting our name out there and gives our fans something to be excited about while we cannot go to the tourney.

Eventually we will schedule schedule some of our former conference mates or a regional D3 school the way (including some of our D1 neighbors in the metroplex and central Texas) have.


As others may have mentioned, NMSU may choose or be required to play the NMMI or Western NM of the world to keep money in the state.

I'm sure down the road, the powers that be in College Station will encourage A&M to schedule Tarleton, Corpus and PV to keep money in the system. Likewise we will be asked to buy OOC games from WT, Commerce, and Kingsville.

Having said all that, I think you"re missing the point. Tell me how the WAC progresses to a multi-bid conference without changing its ways. NMSU wins WAC, gets the lone bid, loses Round 1, Repeat. For how many years now?
Tarleton was in the LSC, so yes they scheduled cream puffs in OOC to prepare for a brutal conference schedule, where more often than not, the top 3 schools in the LSC are in the regional top 5. Most importantly, how many times did you see multiple LSC schools in the D2 tourney?

If you could go back over the years to hear the comments of the NMSU coaches about their challenges in scheduling games, it would be informative. They would like to play top 50 teams because it would boost their RPI (historically) or NET (now). However those teams have been reticent to schedule NMSU. For them, if they win, it is a ho-hum, but if they lose, it is a mark against them. Therefore, they would rather schedule other high RPI/NET teams against whom a loss would not hurt their ranking or lower level teams that they are more confident of a win. To play a quality team from a low RPI/NET conference is too big a risk.

When it comes to tourney time there is no mystery why NMSU is consistently one of the teams picked as possibly upsetting a higher ranking team. They have played above their seeding, but just missed those upsets. If they were matched against similarly seeded teams (RPI/NET) their tourney record would be much better. They have been held back because of the inability to schedule top 50 to top 100 teams in the regular season.

Yes, there are one or two games against lower division New Mexico teams, but that is a result of a politically initiated agreement to help out those teams by giving them a chance to "play up".

At this point Tarleton State does not have such a problem, but if they should win a couple of those marquee games, you can be sure that will begin to change. So, be unsuccessful and continue to be able to schedule them or be successful and have that opportunity disappear.
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(07-11-2020 04:32 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 01:24 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 12:52 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 11:02 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 10:49 AM)RobtheAggie Wrote:  NMSU always plays UTEP twice, that is not something he did at all. Do not give him credit for that. When the UTEP AD stopped the football game it was ugly. UTEP understands that they are as isolated as NMSU, and that if either side gets to antagnostic, both lose in the scheduling department. For volleyball they bring in teams that will play both schools, it is a selling point two games for one. Basketball, on the women's side and men's as well still do it, just not to the same extent as in the past. In the changing world of college athletics, I think it is impossible to underestimate the challenge of the isolation of scheduling that NMSU will have. I think that, moreso than anything else is what will eventually force NMSU to make a decision on where they stand.

While I admire your purple blood that you bleed, I hope you are ready for the steep learning curve that the teams are set for. I think that the school has made a splash with their hire. If that splash is going to be good in the long-run or not is another story. Splashes are great in cannonball contests, but in diving, not so much. I am grateful that Tarleton is in the conference.

We bleed the purple blood because we've been winning for a long, long time. Albeit at a different level, but the high expectations of a winning program is a powerful thing. We'll win in the WAC, maybe not as soon as I'd like, but we will get there. What y'all need to realize is its much more than a recent quality coaching hire, we've already had that for the past 30 years. BCG and the WAC helps to bring exposure to Tarleton so the rest of the world can see what we already know. I will say that BCG and Tarleton are a perfect fit. I can't think of anybody more qualified to carry on the great legacy of Lonn Reisman. BCG literally grew up just down the road from Tarleton. He knows and respects Tarleton's history better than anyone, and now has Lonn as his AD. We have a great storied program thats now in the hands of the epitome of a Coach & AD Dynamic Duo. You bet I'm fired up about it. Can't wait to see what these two accomplish together. I guarantee you it will be fun to watch, so get your popcorn ready!
IT,


You talk about NMSU dodging big games and scheduling cream puffs, but Tarleton has a long history of scheduling NAIA and lesser D2 schools to pad our win total (or total home games). How many times did we schedule the Arlington Baptist and Southwest Assembly of Gods of the world?

Even last year, we didn't schedule the home football opener against a regional rival or a National top 25... instead we brought in Doane, a private NAIA from Nebraska to al but guarantee an easy win.

I like the paycheck games right now because it is getting our name out there and gives our fans something to be excited about while we cannot go to the tourney.

Eventually we will schedule schedule some of our former conference mates or a regional D3 school the way (including some of our D1 neighbors in the metroplex and central Texas) have.


As others may have mentioned, NMSU may choose or be required to play the NMMI or Western NM of the world to keep money in the state.

I'm sure down the road, the powers that be in College Station will encourage A&M to schedule Tarleton, Corpus and PV to keep money in the system. Likewise we will be asked to buy OOC games from WT, Commerce, and Kingsville.

Having said all that, I think you"re missing the point. Tell me how the WAC progresses to a multi-bid conference without changing its ways. NMSU wins WAC, gets the lone bid, loses Round 1, Repeat. For how many years now?
Tarleton was in the LSC, so yes they scheduled cream puffs in OOC to prepare for a brutal conference schedule, where more often than not, the top 3 schools in the LSC are in the regional top 5. Most importantly, how many times did you see multiple LSC schools in the D2 tourney?

Why are you placing the onus to improve the bid count on NMSU solely? Looking at last year's standings 3 teams finished the regular season with a winning record. 1/3 of the conference from last year.

I'm not. Since you're a fellow Tarleton fan I'll break it down for you: It's a collective effort to raise the status of your conference, and it's the job of a school's AD to schedule accordingly. We need NMSU, and everyone else, to raise their strength of schedule, meaning they have to go out and play, and win, some high-risk ooc games. You see, if we had 3-4 WAC teams in the Top 25, it wouldn't be an issue, like we did when were in the LSC. But the WAC isn't that strong (yet) so we (all of us) will have to go out and beat some of those ooc Top 25 teams, especially the regional ones, in order to gain status. Again, you can"t win 'em if you don't schedule 'em!
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(07-11-2020 05:30 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 04:32 PM)Vulpes88 Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 01:24 PM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 12:52 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 11:02 AM)Itinerant Texan Wrote:  We bleed the purple blood because we've been winning for a long, long time. Albeit at a different level, but the high expectations of a winning program is a powerful thing. We'll win in the WAC, maybe not as soon as I'd like, but we will get there. What y'all need to realize is its much more than a recent quality coaching hire, we've already had that for the past 30 years. BCG and the WAC helps to bring exposure to Tarleton so the rest of the world can see what we already know. I will say that BCG and Tarleton are a perfect fit. I can't think of anybody more qualified to carry on the great legacy of Lonn Reisman. BCG literally grew up just down the road from Tarleton. He knows and respects Tarleton's history better than anyone, and now has Lonn as his AD. We have a great storied program thats now in the hands of the epitome of a Coach & AD Dynamic Duo. You bet I'm fired up about it. Can't wait to see what these two accomplish together. I guarantee you it will be fun to watch, so get your popcorn ready!
IT,


You talk about NMSU dodging big games and scheduling cream puffs, but Tarleton has a long history of scheduling NAIA and lesser D2 schools to pad our win total (or total home games). How many times did we schedule the Arlington Baptist and Southwest Assembly of Gods of the world?

Even last year, we didn't schedule the home football opener against a regional rival or a National top 25... instead we brought in Doane, a private NAIA from Nebraska to al but guarantee an easy win.

I like the paycheck games right now because it is getting our name out there and gives our fans something to be excited about while we cannot go to the tourney.

Eventually we will schedule schedule some of our former conference mates or a regional D3 school the way (including some of our D1 neighbors in the metroplex and central Texas) have.


As others may have mentioned, NMSU may choose or be required to play the NMMI or Western NM of the world to keep money in the state.

I'm sure down the road, the powers that be in College Station will encourage A&M to schedule Tarleton, Corpus and PV to keep money in the system. Likewise we will be asked to buy OOC games from WT, Commerce, and Kingsville.

Having said all that, I think you"re missing the point. Tell me how the WAC progresses to a multi-bid conference without changing its ways. NMSU wins WAC, gets the lone bid, loses Round 1, Repeat. For how many years now?
Tarleton was in the LSC, so yes they scheduled cream puffs in OOC to prepare for a brutal conference schedule, where more often than not, the top 3 schools in the LSC are in the regional top 5. Most importantly, how many times did you see multiple LSC schools in the D2 tourney?

Why are you placing the onus to improve the bid count on NMSU solely? Looking at last year's standings 3 teams finished the regular season with a winning record. 1/3 of the conference from last year.

I'm not. Since you're a fellow Tarleton fan I'll break it down for you: It's a collective effort to raise the status of your conference, and it's the job of a school's AD to schedule accordingly. We need NMSU, and everyone else, to raise their strength of schedule, meaning they have to go out and play, and win, some high-risk ooc games. You see, if we had 3-4 WAC teams in the Top 25, it wouldn't be an issue, like we did when were in the LSC. But the WAC isn't that strong (yet) so we (all of us) will have to go out and beat some of those ooc Top 25 teams, especially the regional ones, in order to gain status. Again, you can"t win 'em if you don't schedule 'em!

Sounds like NMSU has done what they can and are too dangerous to be worth the hit from a potential loss. Yeah you can't win them if you don't schedule the but it takes two to do that. It is possible to be too good for an automatic win but too bad for a quality loss. The hypothetical top 25 team has nothing to gain but quite a bit to lose in that situation.
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Also, keep in mind, NMSU is consistently the WAC team with the best RPI or NET (now). When we play teams like Tarleton State, it boosts their power rankings but does little for NMSU.
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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
(07-11-2020 06:31 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Also, keep in mind, NMSU is consistently the WAC team with the best RPI or NET (now). When we play teams like Tarleton State, it boosts their power rankings but does little for NMSU.

You mean you have noticed the weakening of NMSU's RPI/NET as they move from the pre-conference schedule into the conference schedule? It has been that way for a long long time.
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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
(07-11-2020 06:42 PM)NotANewbie Wrote:  
(07-11-2020 06:31 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote:  Also, keep in mind, NMSU is consistently the WAC team with the best RPI or NET (now). When we play teams like Tarleton State, it boosts their power rankings but does little for NMSU.

You mean you have noticed the weakening of NMSU's RPI/NET as they move from the pre-conference schedule into the conference schedule? It has been that way for a long long time.

Yeah, many of the WAC schools hover in the mid-200s down into the 300s in the NET rankings. NMSU is the only school to consistently stay in the top 100; and in the top 50 if a P5 school has the misfortune to play NMSU at a neutral site.
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RE: Games to Watch: WAC 2020-21 Non-Conference Scheduling
I talked to a WAC AC about their non conf. scheduling philosophy. The AC said because they travel so much for conference games, they like to stay regional for non conference games. They play their share of money games, but they will play schools within their region. The AC, also said that's basically the same scheduling philosophy of WAC schools.

I read this story that mentioned Bakersfield travel schedule for WAC games. https://www.bakersfield.com/news/big-wes...501b1.html
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(07-17-2020 04:02 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  I talked to a WAC AC about their non conf. scheduling philosophy. The AC said because they travel so much for conference games, they like to stay regional for non conference games. They play their share of money games, but they will play schools within their region. The AC, also said that's basically the same scheduling philosophy of WAC schools.

I read this story that mentioned Bakersfield travel schedule for WAC games. https://www.bakersfield.com/news/big-wes...501b1.html

Bakersfield is no longer part of the conference. No one cares what they do in the Big West.
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