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OT: Akron cuts three sports.
Men's golf and cross country, as well as women's tennis.

https://www.uakron.edu/redesigning-ua/at...q-05-14-20
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(05-14-2020 11:50 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Men's golf and cross country, as well as women's tennis.

https://www.uakron.edu/redesigning-ua/at...q-05-14-20

Thanks for posting Frank!

I think that this indicates the statement "when things return to normal", we will NOT be returning to the world we knew entering into 2020.
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RE: OT: Akron cuts three sports.
Frankly I’m surprised there aren’t more cuts.
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(05-14-2020 10:04 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Frankly I’m surprised there aren’t more cuts.

I think they are near the NCAA minimum.
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RE: OT: Akron cuts three sports.
(05-14-2020 10:04 PM)holybovine Wrote:  Frankly I’m surprised there aren’t more cuts.

https://www.cleveland.com/education/2020...demic.html

oh - there are more cuts coming
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RE: OT: Akron cuts three sports.
Their press release also implied they are going to be offering fewer scholarships in sports they are keeping. Example: only 80 football scholarships instead of 85, or 11 in basketball instead of 13. Could seriously hurt their competitiveness.
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(05-15-2020 08:55 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Their press release also implied they are going to be offering fewer scholarships in sports they are keeping. Example: only 80 football scholarships instead of 85, or 11 in basketball instead of 13. Could seriously hurt their competitiveness.

I'm tempted to add a snarky comment about Zips' FB becoming less competitive, but I won't.

I'll just say they had an abysmal season last year.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/te...eason/2019
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(05-15-2020 08:55 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Their press release also implied they are going to be offering fewer scholarships in sports they are keeping. Example: only 80 football scholarships instead of 85, or 11 in basketball instead of 13. Could seriously hurt their competitiveness.

And indeed, during a press conference yesterday their AD said ""Football will need to bear some of the burden," Williams said of the cuts. Part of that is related to scholarships."

https://twitter.com/JenPignolet/status/1...0210979845
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RE: OT: Akron cuts three sports.
(05-15-2020 08:55 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Their press release also implied they are going to be offering fewer scholarships in sports they are keeping. Example: only 80 football scholarships instead of 85, or 11 in basketball instead of 13. Could seriously hurt their competitiveness.

I understand they are probably doing what they can to stay in division 1, but wow... I cant even comprehend this idea.

Why on earth would you even consider remaining a division 1 program if you are going to handicap yourself FROM THE START by limiting scholarships? Just cut your losses and drop down a division at that point.

I think we all understand life was already tough for group of 5 teams even before this whole pandemic started. I have a feeling this is going to lead to a lot of changes with the "have nots" of the world very shortly.
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(05-15-2020 09:32 AM)easterneagles79 Wrote:  
(05-15-2020 08:55 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Their press release also implied they are going to be offering fewer scholarships in sports they are keeping. Example: only 80 football scholarships instead of 85, or 11 in basketball instead of 13. Could seriously hurt their competitiveness.

I understand they are probably doing what they can to stay in division 1, but wow... I cant even comprehend this idea.

Why on earth would you even consider remaining a division 1 program if you are going to handicap yourself FROM THE START by limiting scholarships? Just cut your losses and drop down a division at that point.

I think we all understand life was already tough for group of 5 teams even before this whole pandemic started. I have a feeling this is going to lead to a lot of changes with the "have nots" of the world very shortly.

Remember there is a buyout fee you have to pay to leave the MAC, a lump sum that Akron does not want to expend now. Also they do benefit from a NCAA payment distributed through the MAC conference.

Dropping a division may be in the future but right now I suspect Akron is waiting to see where the dust settles. I think you are spot on with regards to G5 changes, these recent financial troubles only increases the great divide between them and the P5 conferences.
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(05-15-2020 11:11 AM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-15-2020 09:32 AM)easterneagles79 Wrote:  
(05-15-2020 08:55 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Their press release also implied they are going to be offering fewer scholarships in sports they are keeping. Example: only 80 football scholarships instead of 85, or 11 in basketball instead of 13. Could seriously hurt their competitiveness.

I understand they are probably doing what they can to stay in division 1, but wow... I cant even comprehend this idea.

Why on earth would you even consider remaining a division 1 program if you are going to handicap yourself FROM THE START by limiting scholarships? Just cut your losses and drop down a division at that point.

I think we all understand life was already tough for group of 5 teams even before this whole pandemic started. I have a feeling this is going to lead to a lot of changes with the "have nots" of the world very shortly.

Remember there is a buyout fee you have to pay to leave the MAC, a lump sum that Akron does not want to expend now. Also they do benefit from a NCAA payment distributed through the MAC conference.

Dropping a division may be in the future but right now I suspect Akron is waiting to see where the dust settles. I think you are spot on with regards to G5 changes, these recent financial troubles only increases the great divide between them and the P5 conferences.

Akron has a very tough decision to make. Remember they are very good in MBB:

https://gozips.com/sports/mens-basketball/schedule

men's soccer,

https://gozips.com/sports/mens-soccer/schedule/2018

Track and Field.

This is a school with a bad front porch (FB) but the rest is generally good to excellent.

They moth balled their baseball team (and it show this year). Don't know if we'll see some MAC teams mothball their baseball teams or maybe reduce the number of OOC games (some of those trips down south have to be tough on academics, with some trips say 7 - 10 days, during the school year).
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BG is dropping baseball.

https://twitter.com/NickPBlade/status/12...32994?s=20

Some famous crook once asked why he robbed banks and he said that's where the money is.

Likewise, baseball is a non-revenue olympic sport which is very expensive to operate but produces little revenue (unless it is a power program).

As I have posted many times, I assume it is very expensive to take those February trips to the sun belt and stay there for say 7 - 10 days.

I just hope schools like Akron, BG, etc. maintain their stadiums and hope to bring back the teams when finances permit.
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The major money P5 programs have changed the financial landscape for everyone else. The NCAA needs to fix it.
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(05-15-2020 01:23 PM)emu steve Wrote:  BG is dropping baseball.

https://twitter.com/NickPBlade/status/12...32994?s=20

Some famous crook once asked why he robbed banks and he said that's where the money is.

Likewise, baseball is a non-revenue olympic sport which is very expensive to operate but produces little revenue (unless it is a power program).

As I have posted many times, I assume it is very expensive to take those February trips to the sun belt and stay there for say 7 - 10 days.

I just hope schools like Akron, BG, etc. maintain their stadiums and hope to bring back the teams when finances permit.

Steve I agree, I don't think baseball produces much ticket revenue for anyone even at USC, ASU, Florida, etc... With a scholarship limit of less than 12, however, it does not have a huge financial assistance cost. Unlike football and basketball venues, baseball facilities require much less maintenance. The killer is those spring trips.

I'm 100% with you on the MAC retaining baseball as a sport. The EMU roster lists 34 players on the roster, meaning that at least 26 are paying tuition to the University.

Many really good high school baseball players that don't get offered a scholarship and are presented with a choice. They can sign a minor league baseball contract, work for peanuts and assess their future baseball potential. Then again, they can enroll in a college close to home, begin their education and also get a sneak peek at their future baseball potential as well. My opinion only, but I think that providing such opportunity is an expected mission of our higher education system.
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(05-15-2020 05:32 PM)Jerry Weaver Wrote:  
(05-15-2020 01:23 PM)emu steve Wrote:  BG is dropping baseball.

https://twitter.com/NickPBlade/status/12...32994?s=20

Some famous crook once asked why he robbed banks and he said that's where the money is.

Likewise, baseball is a non-revenue olympic sport which is very expensive to operate but produces little revenue (unless it is a power program).

As I have posted many times, I assume it is very expensive to take those February trips to the sun belt and stay there for say 7 - 10 days.

I just hope schools like Akron, BG, etc. maintain their stadiums and hope to bring back the teams when finances permit.

Steve I agree, I don't think baseball produces much ticket revenue for anyone even at USC, ASU, Florida, etc... With a scholarship limit of less than 12, however, it does not have a huge financial assistance cost. Unlike football and basketball venues, baseball facilities require much less maintenance. The killer is those spring trips.

I'm 100% with you on the MAC retaining baseball as a sport. The EMU roster lists 34 players on the roster, meaning that at least 26 are paying tuition to the University.

Many really good high school baseball players that don't get offered a scholarship and are presented with a choice. They can sign a minor league baseball contract, work for peanuts and assess their future baseball potential. Then again, they can enroll in a college close to home, begin their education and also get a sneak peek at their future baseball potential as well. My opinion only, but I think that providing such opportunity is an expected mission of our higher education system.
Most of those scholarships are split. The only player that might get a full ride is a pure stud or a pitcher/catcher. I know a young lady that will be playing D1 softball. According to her parents a pitcher or catcher in SB often get the full scholarship.
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BTW, if Western Michigan Broncos haves worsening financials, might they drop football and add dressage? 03-lmfao

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dressage
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This article indicates that BG has the smallest baseball budget in the MAC.

Quoted figure is 775K. Next is NIU at say 850K..

https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/bgsu/...0200517098
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(05-19-2020 09:42 AM)FrankAnderson Wrote:  Another MAC sport gets the axe: CMU eliminating men's track & field teams due to coronavirus budget cuts

Lest my count fail me the men are now down to FOUR schools.

Like many here when I think of collegiate sports it is primarily CFB, MBB, WBB, T&F, baseball, etc.

When T&F and baseball teams close shop we (MAC) are cutting into the sports bone.
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