Hello There, Guest! (LoginRegister)

Post Reply 
News Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
Author Message
SuperFlyBCat Offline
Banned

Posts: 49,583
Joined: Mar 2005
I Root For: America and UC
Location: Cincinnati
Post: #1
Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
The vote in the Bundestag (parliament) on Thursday makes defiling foreign flags equal to the crime of defiling the German flag.
Germany has made public burning of the EU flag or that of another country punishable by up to three years in jail, classing it as a hate crime.
The same applies for the EU anthem, Beethoven's Ode to Joy theme.

The move followed Social Democrat (SPD) complaints about protesters' burning of the Israeli flag in Berlin in 2017.

Justice Minister Christine Lambrecht, a member of the centre-left SPD, said "burning flags publicly has nothing to do with peaceful protests". She said it stoked up "hatred, anger and aggression", and hurt many people's feelings.

The new law also applies to acts of defilement besides burning, such as publicly ripping a flag up. Public display of the Nazi swastika and other Nazi symbols is already banned in Germany.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52674809

The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) has condemned the new law as "excessive interference in free speech and artistic expression".

The act of defiling the Union Flag in the UK is not a crime, but France has made desecration of the tricolour punishable by a fine of up to €7,500 (£6,600; $8,000) or six months in jail.

Spain, Italy and Greece also have laws banning desecration of the national flag.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52674809
05-18-2020 09:32 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


bullet Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 66,938
Joined: Apr 2012
Reputation: 3320
I Root For: Texas, UK, UGA
Location:
Post: #2
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
We used to have such laws. They got overturned by the courts.

Europe is not nearly as free as we are.
05-18-2020 09:47 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
VA49er Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 29,134
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 985
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
Post: #3
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
I think lots of us take our freedom of speech for granted.
05-18-2020 09:55 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


SuperFlyBCat Offline
Banned

Posts: 49,583
Joined: Mar 2005
I Root For: America and UC
Location: Cincinnati
Post: #4
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
(05-18-2020 09:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  We used to have such laws. They got overturned by the courts.

Europe is not nearly as free as we are.

Multiple countries over there have some flaws regarding freedom of speech.
05-18-2020 09:57 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
umbluegray Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 42,190
Joined: Nov 2003
Reputation: 2027
I Root For: The Tigers!
Location: Memphis
Post: #5
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
(05-18-2020 09:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  We used to have such laws. They got overturned by the courts.

Europe is not nearly as free as we are.

But so many U.S. leftists want us to mirror Europe in various ways.

I wonder if they'll add this type of punishment for burning our flag to their list.
05-18-2020 10:00 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


VA49er Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 29,134
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 985
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
Post: #6
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
(05-18-2020 10:00 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 09:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  We used to have such laws. They got overturned by the courts.

Europe is not nearly as free as we are.

But so many U.S. leftists want us to mirror Europe in various ways.

I wonder if they'll add this type of punishment for burning our flag to their list.

Pretty sure freedom of speech isn't high on the priority list for those US leftist.
05-18-2020 10:06 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
49RFootballNow Offline
He who walks without rhythm
*

Posts: 13,077
Joined: Apr 2009
Reputation: 993
I Root For: Charlotte 49ers
Location: Metrolina
Post: #7
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
(05-18-2020 10:06 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:00 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 09:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  We used to have such laws. They got overturned by the courts.

Europe is not nearly as free as we are.

But so many U.S. leftists want us to mirror Europe in various ways.

I wonder if they'll add this type of punishment for burning our flag to their list.

Pretty sure freedom of speech isn't high on the priority list for those US leftist.

Those with dictatorial tendencies don't like decent. Honestly I'm surprised the CCP hasn't rolled the tanks into Hong Kong yet and silenced critics ala Tienanmen Square. Guess they don't want to damage that money making machine just yet.
(This post was last modified: 05-18-2020 10:20 AM by 49RFootballNow.)
05-18-2020 10:20 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Advertisement


SuperFlyBCat Offline
Banned

Posts: 49,583
Joined: Mar 2005
I Root For: America and UC
Location: Cincinnati
Post: #8
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
(05-18-2020 10:20 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:06 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:00 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 09:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  We used to have such laws. They got overturned by the courts.

Europe is not nearly as free as we are.

But so many U.S. leftists want us to mirror Europe in various ways.

I wonder if they'll add this type of punishment for burning our flag to their list.

Pretty sure freedom of speech isn't high on the priority list for those US leftist.

Those with dictatorial tendencies don't like decent. Honestly I'm surprised the CCP hasn't rolled the tanks into Hong Kong yet and silenced critics ala Tienanmen Square. Guess they don't want to damage that money making machine just yet.

CCP goons are pulling lawmakers out of their version of Congress so the vote goes how they want it in Hong Kong.
05-18-2020 10:41 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
VA49er Offline
Legend
*

Posts: 29,134
Joined: Dec 2004
Reputation: 985
I Root For: Charlotte
Location:
Post: #9
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
(05-18-2020 10:41 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:20 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:06 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:00 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 09:47 AM)bullet Wrote:  We used to have such laws. They got overturned by the courts.

Europe is not nearly as free as we are.

But so many U.S. leftists want us to mirror Europe in various ways.

I wonder if they'll add this type of punishment for burning our flag to their list.

Pretty sure freedom of speech isn't high on the priority list for those US leftist.

Those with dictatorial tendencies don't like decent. Honestly I'm surprised the CCP hasn't rolled the tanks into Hong Kong yet and silenced critics ala Tienanmen Square. Guess they don't want to damage that money making machine just yet.

CCP goons are pulling lawmakers out of their version of Congress so the vote goes how they want it in Hong Kong.

IMO, China will lower the boom Tiananmen Square style whenever that 50 years is up. As of now, it is merely telling the "Special Administrative Region" HK puppet govt what to do to bide its time.
05-18-2020 11:01 AM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
49RFootballNow Offline
He who walks without rhythm
*

Posts: 13,077
Joined: Apr 2009
Reputation: 993
I Root For: Charlotte 49ers
Location: Metrolina
Post: #10
RE: Burning EU and other flags can now bring German jail term
(05-18-2020 11:01 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:41 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:20 AM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:06 AM)VA49er Wrote:  
(05-18-2020 10:00 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  But so many U.S. leftists want us to mirror Europe in various ways.

I wonder if they'll add this type of punishment for burning our flag to their list.

Pretty sure freedom of speech isn't high on the priority list for those US leftist.

Those with dictatorial tendencies don't like decent. Honestly I'm surprised the CCP hasn't rolled the tanks into Hong Kong yet and silenced critics ala Tienanmen Square. Guess they don't want to damage that money making machine just yet.

CCP goons are pulling lawmakers out of their version of Congress so the vote goes how they want it in Hong Kong.

IMO, China will lower the boom Tiananmen Square style whenever that 50 years is up. As of now, it is merely telling the "Special Administrative Region" HK puppet govt what to do to bide its time.

So long as a good portion of the world's trade and money continue to flow through HK the CCP will do only things that can't be seen as super oppressive by the world media. They did learn the lesson of Tienanmen Square in the PR department. They don't want that money moving to more stable regional environments outside the so-called PRC. Here's hoping that their people finally get tired of it all, and not just the students.
(This post was last modified: 05-18-2020 01:18 PM by 49RFootballNow.)
05-18-2020 01:16 PM
Find all posts by this user Quote this message in a reply
Post Reply 




User(s) browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)


Copyright © 2002-2024 Collegiate Sports Nation Bulletin Board System (CSNbbs), All Rights Reserved.
CSNbbs is an independent fan site and is in no way affiliated to the NCAA or any of the schools and conferences it represents.
This site monetizes links. FTC Disclosure.
We allow third-party companies to serve ads and/or collect certain anonymous information when you visit our web site. These companies may use non-personally identifiable information (e.g., click stream information, browser type, time and date, subject of advertisements clicked or scrolled over) during your visits to this and other Web sites in order to provide advertisements about goods and services likely to be of greater interest to you. These companies typically use a cookie or third party web beacon to collect this information. To learn more about this behavioral advertising practice or to opt-out of this type of advertising, you can visit http://www.networkadvertising.org.
Powered By MyBB, © 2002-2024 MyBB Group.