Stugray2
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RE: Fourth pro football league at risk of folding in the last year
(05-16-2020 11:09 PM)_C2_ Wrote: (05-12-2020 10:17 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: (05-12-2020 08:55 PM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote: (05-12-2020 04:08 PM)Stugray2 Wrote: Let's put this into perspective, North American Metros
19,216,180 = New York
13,214,800 = Los Angeles
9,458,540 = Chicago
7,573,140 = Dallas - Ft. Worth
7,066,140 = Houston
6,722,460 = SF Bay Area (includes San Jose)
6,471,850 = Toronto
6,280,490 = Washington DC
6,166,490 = Miami
6,102,430 = Philadelphia
6,020,360 = Atlanta
4,948,200 = Phoenix
4,873,020 = Boston
4,650,630 = Riverside-Ontario-San Bernadino (should this count as LA?) YES, I agree with SoCalBobcat78
Yes, the Inland Empire (Riverside-Ontario-San Bernadino) should be considered part of the LA market. It is part of the LA TV market. Essentially, the Inland Empire is a very large suburb of Los Angeles. There is no chance for an NFL or NBA or any professional sports team in the Inland Empire. There is no D1 or D2 football in the Inland Empire. Thee are just two D1 athletic programs, UCR and CBU. The high school football is very good and there is minor league hockey and minor league baseball. Also, the Clippers have an NBA G League team in Ontario.
Yeah, it’s annoying to see the IE take up a DMA spot when it’s effectively LA for television and sports purposes.
I.E. = Stockton/Modesto or parts of Northern Virginia.
Northern Virginia is included in D.C. count. Stockton and Modesto are not counted in the Bay Area.
To be honest once you get past the I-505 interchange (e.g., Dixon) on I-80 I think you are clearly in the Sacramento region. Stockton has the King's G-League team and is "Valley." I think Tracy and Modesto belong with the Valley. I think the I-580 Altamont Pass the border of the region. I guess Brentwood and Antioch have to be included since BART goes out that far. But honestly Antioch doesn't feel like the Bay Area. Whatever.
For those in the East, the West is more like a series of urban oasis with almost nothing in between. But California's big urban centers have grown so much that you see expansion along the Interstates. What strikes me when driving in Texas or Florida is all these midsized towns between cities. In the West, when you get 40 minutes from the city center you are often looking wilderness as far as the eye can see.
Anyway, the point of the numbers is Toronto would be a major NFL city, in the pack with Chicago, Houston, DFW, SF Bay Area, and at worst with DC, Miami, Philly and Atlanta at the worst (probably should throw Boston in as really they are New England's capitol, and like the SF Bay Area have more financial punch their their size). If the CFL folds, or even not, Toronto should be a target for expansion. (I'm not high on Montreal)
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