The headline: "BGSU plans on having face-to-face classes in the fall" caught my eye. Will the MAC or NIU be following suit?

https://www.sent-trib.com/community/pres...a51d9.html

I think most schools are planning on face to face in the fall, just with precautions of one sort or another.

You are going to see some schools open, and some schools online.

It is going to depend on the governor of the state......As for state of Illinois, I think Northwestern, Depaul, UIC, will not be holding face to face classes because of the region they are in. They will need to be in stage 5 according to the Illinois stages....

NIU is in a different state region and is up in the air.......

NCAA president makes it official: no sports without students on campus:
https://sports.yahoo.com/ncaa-president-...57332.html

Pritzker is in charge, so no , no sports.

Guessing there will be lots of pressure to have sports in Urbana. Any success they have will benefit us as we're both in outlier counties. Ridiculous to take a year off of sports, or not have a physical college semester in the fall. Protect the elderly and those with underlying conditions, everyone else get back at it with reasonable precautions solidly in place.

The problem is that all teams in a conference must have students be physically in school for sports to happen. If one governor, or mayor, does not allow schools to open, the whole conference is in jeopardy. One idea floating around in the NCAA is to move all fall sports to spring semester, assuming all schools allow students in January.

(05-10-2020 12:30 PM)jjj Wrote:  The problem is that all teams in a conference must have students be physically in school for sports to happen. If one governor, or mayor, does not allow schools to open, the whole conference is in jeopardy. One idea floating around in the NCAA is to move all fall sports to spring semester, assuming all schools allow students in January.

Mayors have little control. Governor runs the show

(05-10-2020 12:42 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:30 PM)jjj Wrote:  The problem is that all teams in a conference must have students be physically in school for sports to happen. If one governor, or mayor, does not allow schools to open, the whole conference is in jeopardy. One idea floating around in the NCAA is to move all fall sports to spring semester, assuming all schools allow students in January.

Mayors have little control. Governor runs the show

I would think the MAC schools most in jeopardy of not having students on campus this fall are Akron, Ball State, Buffalo and Toledo. That's almost half the league.

OU, Miami, CMU, BG, EMU and NIU are most likely to have students, IMO. WMU and Kent could split either way. In a positive sense, I think Toledo is the school to watch. If the Rockets have students, most of the rest will as well.

No matter what, I think EMU, a suburb of Ann Arbor, is the most likely of all MAC schools to be open, because nearby Michigan (B10) is bound to be open.

Despite those who think Kent is a bastion of liberals, it would not surprise me at all if KSU and NIU are one of the last to fall in line.

Your conclusions/speculations are based on ... what?

Not a challenge; just a question. Imo, there's still too much up in the air -- including specifics for each conference member -- for predictions. Klake87, NIUfilmmaker and jjj seem to be closest to where we're at. My opinion only.

Imo we're all bored.

Yeah you have to put NIU in that pot of unlikely students. Illinois will be the very last state to ever get back to normal , if it does at all

(05-10-2020 03:47 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:42 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:30 PM)jjj Wrote:  The problem is that all teams in a conference must have students be physically in school for sports to happen. If one governor, or mayor, does not allow schools to open, the whole conference is in jeopardy. One idea floating around in the NCAA is to move all fall sports to spring semester, assuming all schools allow students in January.

Mayors have little control. Governor runs the show

I would think the MAC schools most in jeopardy of not having students on campus this fall are Akron, Ball State, Buffalo and Toledo. That's almost half the league.

OU, Miami, CMU, BG, EMU and NIU are most likely to have students, IMO. WMU and Kent could split either way. In a positive sense, I think Toledo is the school to watch. If the Rockets have students, most of the rest will as well.

No matter what, I think EMU, a suburb of Ann Arbor, is the most likely of all MAC schools to be open, because nearby Michigan (B10) is bound to be open.

Despite those who think Kent is a bastion of liberals, it would not surprise me at all if KSU and NIU are one of the last to fall in line.

UT has a Health Science and Medical campus that is open and has students there in their role as medical students. Does that count as students on campus? Because we are already open in that regard. On that campus we are already using best practices for Covid-19 on that can be expanded to the entire campus when it opens in the fall, so we have learned a great deal. Would that knowledge & resources from a health perspective at our finger tips help get us open? UT also has the third largest endowment in the MAC at $500 million dollars, does having a lot of reserves help in a budget crises? The university has very low debt levels, so the amount of interest payments eating at our operating budget are also very low, would that help in a budget crises? Further, the foundation will help UT this year more then previous years to help with the shortfall. Normally the UT foundation provides UT around $25 million to $40 Million per year in assistance. Would that be a strategic advantage in a budget crises? Lastly, what all MAC schools are doing is budget cuts, have already been put in motion and plans are to open in the fall. You put all that together and I would say we would be more ready to open strategically and financially then just about anyone in the MAC.

(05-11-2020 08:20 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 03:47 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:42 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:30 PM)jjj Wrote:  The problem is that all teams in a conference must have students be physically in school for sports to happen. If one governor, or mayor, does not allow schools to open, the whole conference is in jeopardy. One idea floating around in the NCAA is to move all fall sports to spring semester, assuming all schools allow students in January.

Mayors have little control. Governor runs the show

I would think the MAC schools most in jeopardy of not having students on campus this fall are Akron, Ball State, Buffalo and Toledo. That's almost half the league.

OU, Miami, CMU, BG, EMU and NIU are most likely to have students, IMO. WMU and Kent could split either way. In a positive sense, I think Toledo is the school to watch. If the Rockets have students, most of the rest will as well.

No matter what, I think EMU, a suburb of Ann Arbor, is the most likely of all MAC schools to be open, because nearby Michigan (B10) is bound to be open.

Despite those who think Kent is a bastion of liberals, it would not surprise me at all if KSU and NIU are one of the last to fall in line.

UT has a Health Science and Medical campus that is open and has students there in their role as medical students. Does that count as students on campus? Because we are already open in that regard. On that campus we are already using best practices for Covid-19 on that can be expanded to the entire campus when it opens in the fall, so we have learned a great deal. Would that knowledge & resources from a health perspective at our finger tips help get us open? UT also has the third largest endowment in the MAC at $500 million dollars, does having a lot of reserves help in a budget crises? The university has very low debt levels, so the amount of interest payments eating at our operating budget are also very low, would that help in a budget crises? Further, the foundation will help UT this year more then previous years to help with the shortfall. Normally the UT foundation provides UT around $25 million to $40 Million per year in assistance. Would that be a strategic advantage in a budget crises? Lastly, what all MAC schools are doing is budget cuts, have already been put in motion and plans are to open in the fall. You put all that together and I would say we would be more ready to open strategically and financially then just about anyone in the MAC.

I think the only thing that counts is undergrads and whether or not the governor of whatever state it is opens schools.

(05-11-2020 08:20 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 03:47 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:42 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:30 PM)jjj Wrote:  The problem is that all teams in a conference must have students be physically in school for sports to happen. If one governor, or mayor, does not allow schools to open, the whole conference is in jeopardy. One idea floating around in the NCAA is to move all fall sports to spring semester, assuming all schools allow students in January.

Mayors have little control. Governor runs the show

I would think the MAC schools most in jeopardy of not having students on campus this fall are Akron, Ball State, Buffalo and Toledo. That's almost half the league.

OU, Miami, CMU, BG, EMU and NIU are most likely to have students, IMO. WMU and Kent could split either way. In a positive sense, I think Toledo is the school to watch. If the Rockets have students, most of the rest will as well.

No matter what, I think EMU, a suburb of Ann Arbor, is the most likely of all MAC schools to be open, because nearby Michigan (B10) is bound to be open.

Despite those who think Kent is a bastion of liberals, it would not surprise me at all if KSU and NIU are one of the last to fall in line.

That is some pretty random reasoning, but here is my two cents after reading the guidance that the university provided. UT has a Health Science and Medical campus that is open and has students there in their role as medical students. Does that count as students on campus? Because we are already open in that regard, we are already using best practices for Covid-19 that can be expanded to the entire campus when it opens in the fall, so we have learned a great deal. Would that knowledge & resources, such as being able to test our own students and process the results in our own lab, be helpful? UT also has the third largest endowment in the MAC at $500 million dollars, does having a lot of reserves help in a budget crises? The university has very low debt levels, so the amount of interest payments eating at our operating budget are also very low, would that help in a budget crises? Further, the foundation will help UT this year more then previous years to help with the shortfall. Normally the UT foundation provides UT around $25 million to $40 Million per year in assistance. Would that be a strategic advantage in a budget crises? Lastly, what all MAC schools are doing is budget cuts, have already been put in motion and plans are to open in the fall. You put all that together and I would say we would be more ready to open strategically and financially then just about anyone in the MAC.

(05-11-2020 08:37 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(05-11-2020 08:20 AM)stpeterocketfan Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 03:47 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:42 PM)klake87 Wrote:  

(05-10-2020 12:30 PM)jjj Wrote:  The problem is that all teams in a conference must have students be physically in school for sports to happen. If one governor, or mayor, does not allow schools to open, the whole conference is in jeopardy. One idea floating around in the NCAA is to move all fall sports to spring semester, assuming all schools allow students in January.

Mayors have little control. Governor runs the show

I would think the MAC schools most in jeopardy of not having students on campus this fall are Akron, Ball State, Buffalo and Toledo. That's almost half the league.

OU, Miami, CMU, BG, EMU and NIU are most likely to have students, IMO. WMU and Kent could split either way. In a positive sense, I think Toledo is the school to watch. If the Rockets have students, most of the rest will as well.

No matter what, I think EMU, a suburb of Ann Arbor, is the most likely of all MAC schools to be open, because nearby Michigan (B10) is bound to be open.

Despite those who think Kent is a bastion of liberals, it would not surprise me at all if KSU and NIU are one of the last to fall in line.

That is some pretty random reasoning, but here is my two cents after reading the guidance that the university provided. UT has a Health Science and Medical campus that is open and has students there in their role as medical students. Does that count as students on campus? Because we are already open in that regard, we are already using best practices for Covid-19 that can be expanded to the entire campus when it opens in the fall, so we have learned a great deal. Would that knowledge & resources, such as being able to test our own students and process the results in our own lab, be helpful? UT also has the third largest endowment in the MAC at $500 million dollars, does having a lot of reserves help in a budget crises? The university has very low debt levels, so the amount of interest payments eating at our operating budget are also very low, would that help in a budget crises? Further, the foundation will help UT this year more then previous years to help with the shortfall. Normally the UT foundation provides UT around $25 million to $40 Million per year in assistance. Would that be a strategic advantage in a budget crises? Lastly, what all MAC schools are doing is budget cuts, have already been put in motion and plans are to open in the fall. You put all that together and I would say we would be more ready to open strategically and financially then just about anyone in the MAC.

Did you just cut and paste your own comment?

(05-11-2020 12:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah you have to put NIU in that pot of unlikely students. Illinois will be the very last state to ever get back to normal , if it does at all

Does anyone on here remember the Gulliver's Travels cartoon? There was a character, I think his name was "Glum"....

This particular debate got started when cleveland came over (apparently) from the Mid-American Conference Talk board with an unsupported "assesment" of the whole conference.

And now this has devolved into a debate over the situation at Toledo (which ... reminder ... has its own board).

Not blaming anyone. Just sayin'.

As for myself, I am an NIU fan first.

(05-11-2020 12:05 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(05-11-2020 12:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah you have to put NIU in that pot of unlikely students. Illinois will be the very last state to ever get back to normal , if it does at all

Does anyone on here remember the Gulliver's Travels cartoon? There was a character, I think his name was "Glum"....

Yep. "We'll NEVER MAKE IT! Go back! We're doomed!"

(05-12-2020 03:12 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-11-2020 12:05 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(05-11-2020 12:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah you have to put NIU in that pot of unlikely students. Illinois will be the very last state to ever get back to normal , if it does at all

Does anyone on here remember the Gulliver's Travels cartoon? There was a character, I think his name was "Glum"....

Yep. "We'll NEVER MAKE IT! Go back! We're doomed!"

Actually, I think he's more like C3PO from Star Wars. He's programmed in a such a way that it is inconceivable for him to think otherwise. He's very knowledgeable about MAC football and basketball, but always thinks the worst outcomes will happen.

(05-12-2020 03:28 PM)Big_Man Wrote:  

(05-12-2020 03:12 PM)NIU007 Wrote:  

(05-11-2020 12:05 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  

(05-11-2020 12:42 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Yeah you have to put NIU in that pot of unlikely students. Illinois will be the very last state to ever get back to normal , if it does at all

Does anyone on here remember the Gulliver's Travels cartoon? There was a character, I think his name was "Glum"....

Yep. "We'll NEVER MAKE IT! Go back! We're doomed!"

Actually, I think he's more like C3PO from Star Wars. He's programmed in a such a way that it is inconceivable for him to think otherwise. He's very knowledgeable about MAC football and basketball, but always thinks the worst outcomes will happen.

Never tell me the odds!