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When Will UTA Get Football
Is anybody else losing patience? I can see it happening, gradually.
Construction of new basketball/volleyball facility. Check.
Upgrades to baseball stadium. Check
Upgrades to softball stadium. Check
New batting cages and indoor practice facilities. Check
Upgrades and additions to locker rooms and training rooms. Ongoing
New Women's Golf Team. Check
Women's Soccer Team. Unknown, maybe pending.
Upgrades to Maverick Stadium. Recent turf and ongoing maintenance at FCS level.
Behind the scenes maneuvering. Check? - Neinas study has probably been updated.
Other possible moves:
Start or officially support club teams. W Soccer already exists, as does W Gymnastics
South Alabama showed how to support and grow a Club Football team that helped them to get a feel for community, student and fan support, as well as logistics.
12-27-2018 04:37 PM
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Things are still happening beneath the surface.

"You are cordially invited to attend a luncheon with teammates and supporters of UTA Football. Some of you have been involved in recent discussions about UTA and a possible return of football. There has been a lot that has happened.

During the luncheon, we will share with you what actions have taken place over the past couple of years and what is currently in process as well. Besides UTA Athletic Director and myself, we will have the school’s consultant Jeff Schemmel with College Sports Solutions provide an update.

It will be worth your time to hear what has and is being done to evaluate and possibly move forward with this program.

Date: Friday, November 8th
Time: 11:30 am - 1:00 pm
Location: J. Gilligans Draft House, 400 East Abram, Arlington
Lunch: $10 lunch that includes chicken fried steak, Chicken fried chicken, mashed potatoes, green beans, salad and tea.

Please convey this invite to anyone that you can think of as it would be great to provide an update to a good number of folks besides seeing everyone. Thanks."

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11-07-2019 02:48 PM
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The meeting was well attended and informative. I had not realized how close we came to having Les Miles on board to restart football at UTA. Right up to the time Kansas snapped him up, he was working a plan with UTA partisans. He was even looking at housing in Arlington, but alas, that bride has been left waiting at the altar. Today's surprise information was that the movement didn't die, but is still ongoing, just not with Coach Miles.

Some takeaways, in no particular order:

* The University has hired Jeff Schemmel of CSS College Sports Solutions to study our situation and come up with facts and figures. Jeff is very well connected and has spent most of his adult life in college sports management. It is interesting that originally, President Karbhari insisted that UTA would not pay for this study, but the Texas BOR strongly came out in favor of UTA doing the study, so he adjusted his position.

* Globe Life Park is not being considered as a potential home venue for UTA football, but neither is the current Maverick Stadium. When we do football, President Karbhari is committed to going with a first class on-campus stadium, and the thinking here is that the old stadium is not potentially a good option, since it has been encroached upon from all sides and needs too many upgrades to make economic sense. Allegedly, someone has already come up with drawings of what the new stadium would look like and where it would be located. All I could ascertain is that it would be on the West side of the main campus, so I'm thinking it would be where the large "south 40" parking lot exists on Cooper. Hopefully, the current stadium will be kept as a track and field, and soccer stadium, so the new one will not have to be as "Multi-purpose."

* President Karbhari has said he will not consider raising the Student Athletics Fee from its current bargain rate of $8.50 per hour. This is a major source of funding for all Sunbelt Conference schools, ranging from $5 million to $15 million per year at the other member institutions. UNT recently paid for a new stadium by raising their SAF rate by $10. Given our enormous enrollment, simply raising our SAF to $20 (versus $30 at TxSU) would easily raise about $15 million more per year. But such a move will not originate in the president's office. Perhaps a student led referendum, as has been done elsewhere, would work. Costs of college are ridiculous, so it's good that President Karbhari is trying to keep UTA fees down as much as possible.

* During the transition period to startup of a new football team, NCAA transfer eligibility rules are suspended. Thus, a junior player from another university could transfer and not have to sit out for a year.

* There are several "big money" supporters potentially involved in the football revival process, including one who is on the BOR. To what degree their contributions could cover startup costs is unknown.

* First of all, student enthusiasm and support for football will be essential before anything can get done, and currently, the only way for such support to manifest itself is for UTA students to attend basketball games. Last Tuesday, 700 attended the game against UTDallas. Granted, that was an exhibition game against a lower division non-rival. So it will be interesting to see how many more will show up for the Saturday game against Tulsa (Homecoming).

* Any revival of UTA football will have Title IX ramifications, and thus will result in additional women's sports programs. Most likely, there will be Wlomen's Soccer.
* When we did the 2004 referendum, it was for "athletics expansion." It passed overwhelmingly, but the increased SAF increase was never implemented by President Spaniolo.

* No thought or consideration whatsoever is being given to the university possibly supporting club sports as a way of raising student interest. This should be considered, in my opinion.

* There was no interest expressed by the AD in swimming, gymnastics or any other sport outside of possible W Soccer.

* I noticed that many if not most of the football alumni who attended this meeting were former players from championship and winning teams, like the 1979 team that went 9-2 and crushed TCU. Several former NFL players attended, such as Byron Williams, Danny Griffin and Brian Happel. A major surprise to me was how few of the black former players were in attendance, but then it occurred to me that a majority of these former players are younger, and probably could not get away from work for a couple of hours to meet in Arlington.
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Overall Record*: 329-281-25 Pct .518 Bowl Record 3-0-0 Pct 1.000, As NTAC Junior Aggies Central Texas Conference Champs 1934, 35, 36, 38. As Arlington State College Rebels Pioneer Conference Champs 1952, 53, 56, 57; 1956 and 1957 Junior Rose Bowl Champs, Ranked #1 1957. As Senior College, Southland Conference in 1966, 67. 1967 National Champs College Division. 1967 Pecan Bowl Champion As Texas-Arlington Mavericks Southland Conference Champs 1981 * includes all teams 1919-1985.
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(09-12-2021 07:04 AM)wewererebels Wrote:  Overall Record*: 329-281-25 Pct .518 Bowl Record 3-0-0 Pct 1.000, As NTAC Junior Aggies Central Texas Conference Champs 1934, 35, 36, 38. As Arlington State College Rebels Pioneer Conference Champs 1952, 53, 56, 57; 1956 and 1957 Junior Rose Bowl Champs, Ranked #1 1957. As Senior College, Southland Conference in 1966, 67. 1967 National Champs College Division. 1967 Pecan Bowl Champion As Texas-Arlington Mavericks Southland Conference Champs 1981 * includes all teams 1919-1985.

Here's a true story: A friend of mine was flying an Air Force fighter jet on a training mission. Returning to base, he noted that his plane was getting low on fuel and so he asked Control for a straight in approach to landing. Just as he was lining up for his final approach, he was ordered by Control to break out and make way for a B-52 that was making an engine-out approach. My friend radioed, "ah, the dreaded seven engine approach."

My point is, there was obviously greater urgency to the fighter's situation than there was for the bomber. Yet, for some bureaucrat or rule maker, the key phrase thing was that the bomber had an engine out.

I was reminded of the story when I was informed by a UTA faculty member that the administration was worried about its fiscal situation, given that they were expecting the slowing US economy to cause a drop in enrollment. In fact, they feared that total enrollment could drop to forty thousand, and gosh, how could they afford to do football if UTA only had 40,000 students?

Well, for one thing, based on what the students approved in their referendum, if the enrollment is 40,000, increased student fees will add up to over $5 million per semester. UTA has abundant resources to support "Tier One" athletics.

But where there's a will there's a "no way."
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Shout out from a neighbor to your west... "Get football going again!" We have had a fine past history of competing together and you are missed.
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UTA was the home field for my kids high school football for 8 years or so. It is a sh!thole. It would need milllions of dollars to get it truly ready for D1 football. On the home side, the bathrooms and concessions leak water(I hope it’s water) all over the main concourse. The bathrooms themselves are just a notch above a bucket of ice in a trough. The visitor side is even worse.
Nothing has been improved for decades. I have no idea about the press box/ coaching areas, but I’m pretty sure it’s a complete rebuild that’s needed for that. The bones are there, but it will need a massive rebuild.
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(08-21-2023 03:42 PM)Oscar P Wrote:  UTA was the home field for my kids high school football for 8 years or so. It is a sh!thole. It would need milllions of dollars to get it truly ready for D1 football. On the home side, the bathrooms and concessions leak water(I hope it’s water) all over the main concourse. The bathrooms themselves are just a notch above a bucket of ice in a trough. The visitor side is even worse.
Nothing has been improved for decades. I have no idea about the press box/ coaching areas, but I’m pretty sure it’s a complete rebuild that’s needed for that. The bones are there, but it will need a massive rebuild.

Don't worry. DI football is never coming to that old stadium.
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^ Just looking at Wikipedia shows any renovation usually covers restrooms and concessions.

When I was a student, Maverick Stadium was head and shoulders above Bobcat Stadium at now-Texas State. After their roughly $73 million spent, it is one of the best in G5.

I'm not advocating one or the other, just saying it's possible. However, everything I know to this point says the decision-makers don't think highly of Maverick Stadium.
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I would hope UTA would use the location of Maverick Stadium but with a total rebuild. Remove track, new turf, new stands, new everything.
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(10-13-2023 09:18 AM)TexanFan Wrote:  I would hope UTA would use the location of Maverick Stadium but with a total rebuild. Remove track, new turf, new stands, new everything.

Either that or allow Maverick Stadium to continue to decompose as a Track and maybe, Soccer stadium.

But on Cooper Street, where the huge "South 40" parking lot exists, build that new football palace, and surround it with a few parking garages. Or...

Play off campus, like UTSA and enjoy the old Rangers stadium, with occasional revenue games in Jerryworld.

The possibilities are endless!
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My preference would be to renovate the Mav. However, the track would have to stay as there aren't a lot of options for the program to have its own track facilities as the campus is pretty landlocked.

Going South 40 would work for a new stadium, but people would revolt over parking, even though there's plenty of parking on campus. Garages raise the cost for sure.

I'm not sure if there's an appetite for eminent domain to get out of the landlocked problem they are in.

I went to Choctaw Stadium and saw Arlington Martin and Arlington Lamar play. The place is clearly a re-purposed stadium and it is noticeable. Outside of the new stands built in the outfield, all the seats are out of odd angles. The "visitors" side is such an odd angle. The place would be good for a temporary home, but one of the main reasons we lost a football program was the off-campus move to a baseball stadium that suppressed fan support.

If we get a team, the Mav is an FCS facility right now. Choctaw is a temporary solution right now. There are options. But, if they say facilities are the obstacle, that is just not true. Get something started and work on facility improvements or new builds later.
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Why play at that old stadium when they could play at Choctaw or even Jerry World?
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The answer as to where UTA would play football is where do they make the most money?
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It's not fun to compare the relative lack of movement at UTA with the goings-on at Texas Wesleyan, where Football was brought back in 2017 after a 76 year absence. Now they are in the midst of an on-campus stadium project. Proverbs 29:18 - Where there is no vision, the people perish. (KJV)

Not to suggest that our university will die without football, but it is increasingly obvious that the leadership lacks vision.

Cudos to TWU for having the vision and pursuing football for all the right reasons!

https://txwes.edu/alumni/news-and-events...-ceremony/
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