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(05-07-2020 02:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  In a dank, dark basement somewhere in Ohio there is sheetrock getting destroyed in a fit of rage.

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(05-07-2020 01:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I believe that many of us agree with you on wanting to see these folks convicted and serve prison time. However, Trey Gowdy said just recently that none of them will be convicted. I tend to believe him on that.

I hope that Flynn's lawyer sues all of them into the poorhouse in order to punish them (the criminal 'just us' system won't hold them responsible) AND to make Flynn whole again. Poor guy had to sell his house to try and pay millions in legal fees. If they can get away with doing this to Flynn, imagine what they can do to any normal American citizen.

I saw that, too. IIRC, Gowdy said there is no specific statute against what they did. Maybe Flynn will win in a civil action, but I doubt anybody goes to jail over this.
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Can’t wait for the talking points on this. They knew it was coming so it shouldn’t take them a couple of days like usual. It’s gonna be some top shelf comedy.
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Techno Fog saw this coming. Also, interesting that the 3 cases Van Grack withdrew from today all had Sullivan as a judge.

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Is it the end of the week yet?!? Asking for a friend

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Congrats General, and a mighty Hoo-rah for Sydney Powell. Girl just gets it done. Perhaps the first time an individual has taken on the Deep State and won one.

Now, time to pivot and sue the ever living schit out of those involved. And I mean the individuals, not who they supposedly worked for- US.
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(05-07-2020 02:22 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

The Jan 24, 2017 Flynn interview:

“untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn...[and] conducted without any legitimate investigative basis.”
“The calls [between Flynn and Kislyak] were entirely appropriate on their face”
The evidence shows his statements were not “material” to any viable counterintelligence investigation—or any investigation for that matter—initiated by the FBI”
“Indeed, the FBI itself had recognized that it lacked sufficient basis to sustain its initial counterintelligence investigation by seeking to close that very investigation without even an interview of Mr. Flynn”
“With its [CI] investigation no longer justifiably predicated, the communications between Flynn and Kislyak—the FBI’s sole basis for resurrecting the investigation on Jan 4—did not warrant either continuing that existing [CI] investigation or opening a new criminal investigation”
Nor was anything said on the calls themselves to indicate an inappropriate relationship between Mr. Flynn and a foreign power.”
“Indeed, Mr. Flynn’s request that Russia avoid “escalating” tensions in response to U.S. sanctions in an effort to mollify geopolitical tensions was consistent with him advocating for, not against, the interests of the United
“At bottom, the arms-length communications gave no indication that Flynn was being “directed and controlled by ... the Russian federation,” much less in a manner that “threat[ened] ... national security.” They provided no factual basis for positing that Flynn had violated FARA.”
“In any event, there was no question at the FBI as to the content of the calls; the FBI had in its possession word-for-word transcripts of the actual communications between Mr. Flynn and Mr. Kislyak”
“With no dispute as to what was in fact said, there was no factual basis for the predication of a new counterintelligence investigation”
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(05-07-2020 02:24 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Is is the end of the week yet?!?

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Congrats General, and a mighty Hoo-rah for Sydney Powell. Girl just gets it done. Perhaps the first time an individual has taken on the Deep State and won one.

Now, time to pivot and sue the ever living schit out of those involved. And I mean the individuals, not who they supposedly worked for- US.

To be honest here, she couldn’t have done it without Barr. He made sure the FBI obeyed the FOIA laws. Wray would have stuffed this in his pants for years otherwise. But yeah, I agree. Good job Sydney!
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(05-07-2020 01:41 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(05-07-2020 01:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  P.S. I predict that Flynn is now going to sue the crap out of the FBI and the DOJ. He has lost his job, his house, and millions in attorney fees.

I predict that might take a while. I suspect many of the people responsible will be tied up responding to criminal indictments. That may work best for Flynn anyway as DOJ officials being found guilty in a criminal trial will basically make his suit a rubber stamp verdict.

In a related note---what do you want to bet this will be spun on CNN as Trump "corrupting" the DOJ?

Oh, you can count on that, Barr's just doing Trumps work to help his friends.

Pretty sure a number of us called that a week or two ago.

We'll know precisely when the talking points on this come out.
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(05-07-2020 02:29 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(05-07-2020 02:24 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Is is the end of the week yet?!?

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Congrats General, and a mighty Hoo-rah for Sydney Powell. Girl just gets it done. Perhaps the first time an individual has taken on the Deep State and won one.

Now, time to pivot and sue the ever living schit out of those involved. And I mean the individuals, not who they supposedly worked for- US.

To be honest here, she couldn’t have done it without Barr. He made sure the FBI obeyed the FOIA laws. Wray would have stuffed this in his pants for years otherwise. But yeah, I agree. Good job Sydney!

Look for Wray to be gone by the end of the month.
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(05-07-2020 01:54 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  I believe that many of us agree with you on wanting to see these folks convicted and serve prison time. However, Trey Gowdy said just recently that none of them will be convicted. I tend to believe him on that.

I hope that Flynn's lawyer sues all of them into the poorhouse in order to punish them (the criminal 'just us' system won't hold them responsible) AND to make Flynn whole again. Poor guy had to sell his house to try and pay millions in legal fees. If they can get away with doing this to Flynn, imagine what they can do to any normal American citizen.

I heard that from Gowdy as well, and I think the point he made, made sense. Then again, once these crib-notes were more widely released and read, I have heard more than one talking head lawyer say they may very well have some criminal exposure. Esp. lying to a Court.

Guess we'll see, but not if we have AG CPL or some schit in 6 months...

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(05-07-2020 01:38 PM)TripleA Wrote:  P.S. I predict that Flynn is now going to sue the crap out of the FBI and the DOJ. He has lost his job, his house, and millions in attorney fees.

THIS is the part I don't like. I like that he can sue but I think the wrong parties are being sued. In suing the FBI and DOJ he is actually suing "US" the taxpayer and letting those scumbags that perpetuated this farce Scottfree. He should go after the leaders of this injustice personally like Comey and his scumbag underlings. I grant you that if that was the case we wouldn't have many more people taking it upon themselves to take the law into their OWN hands and doing similar injustices if they KNEW that if they were found being capricious in their duties and would be subject to a lawsuit they would think twice and maybe even three times before screwing American citizens unduly.
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Is there a sovereign immunity from prosecution clause somewhere in U.S. codes? I don't know but I agree if his lawyer could target the miscreants personally, that would be the best outcome.
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(05-07-2020 02:17 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote:  Time for Mueller to go to jail.

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Looks like the talking points are to go after Barr.
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President Obama discussed Flynn probe with Comey at White House meeting

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(05-07-2020 02:40 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  Is there a sovereign immunity from prosecution clause somewhere in U.S. codes? I don't know but I agree if his lawyer could target the miscreants personally, that would be the best outcome.

Generally, prosecutors are immune to civil lawsuits as long as they prosecute in "good faith.". Malicious prosecution can be the basis of a lawsuit.
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(05-07-2020 02:34 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  
(05-07-2020 02:29 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  
(05-07-2020 02:24 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Is is the end of the week yet?!?

03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao

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Congrats General, and a mighty Hoo-rah for Sydney Powell. Girl just gets it done. Perhaps the first time an individual has taken on the Deep State and won one.

Now, time to pivot and sue the ever living schit out of those involved. And I mean the individuals, not who they supposedly worked for- US.

To be honest here, she couldn’t have done it without Barr. He made sure the FBI obeyed the FOIA laws. Wray would have stuffed this in his pants for years otherwise. But yeah, I agree. Good job Sydney!

Look for Wray to be gone by the end of the month.

As well he should be. 5 bucks he knew alllll about this. How could he not?

They need to reach out to the field office in Lost Springs Wyoming for the next Director. NOT another stooge from the infamous, now notorious "7th floor". Kick em all out and padlock that b!tch.
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(05-07-2020 02:49 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  
(05-07-2020 02:34 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote:  Look for Wray to be gone by the end of the month.

As well he should be. 5 bucks he knew alllll about this. How could he not?
I’m not really sure, but I thought Wray was in private practice (King & Spalding) while all this was happening (i.e., 2016, early ’17). If so, he might not have known any of it.
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