(04-29-2020 09:45 AM)Rice93 Wrote: (04-29-2020 09:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: (04-29-2020 09:16 AM)Rice93 Wrote: (04-28-2020 07:14 PM)Jonathan Sadow Wrote: (04-28-2020 04:22 PM)tanqtonic Wrote: Seemingly? Seemingly, they ran him through very particularized and personal tryouts. And there are more than a few reputable reports that Kaep has been offered more than one contract -- to which he has turned down.
I dont necessarily think that that burden is solely that of the antebellum plantation-like NFL owner's like you seemingly (that *is* a good word) set forth part and parcel as the ultimate truth above.
You're correct. Kaepernick hasn't shown the ability to start as a quarterback in the NFL. I've read scouting reports of him that state he doesn't make game decisions at the level that an NFL starting quarterback should. He came into the league in a great place for him, a team with a good, solid, experienced offensive line that could provide him with plenty of time to make decisions when running the offense. When the 49ers' line deteriorated, his lack of good decision-making was exposed, so the team got rid of him for a (judging by recent results) superior replacement.
Like all pro sports owners, NFL owners like to win, because you make more money when you win, and you do that by getting talented players for your team. There's plenty of talented people who've gotten lots of chances to play who've done more heinous things than kneel during the national anthem. Kaepernick might be able to play in the league as a backup, but right now it's in his economic best interest to be a victim, so he's playing that role instead.
You may be right about 2019-2020 Kaepaernick. However, when you look at all the quarterbacks on NFL rosters for the first couple years of his "ban" there were doubtlessly inferior QB's there. I haven't read much to dispute that from NFL people.
Nor do I dispute it. But the total package is much more than just his 40 speed or arm strength. He brings discordance and trouble, and problems to be handled. Not many back up QBs are worth the trouble.
To put it another way, suppose a very good back up QB had a 3% tattoo. Ir he was very loudly pro-Trump. should the team consider that, or just hire the best talent available?
That is exactly the issue that I raised originally. It will be interesting to see how the NFL handles this vis-a-vis how they handled Kaepernick.
And yet, the analysis here is 'is a backup QB worth that trouble'' Kaep *absolutely* has been offered backup positions. Which he refused. So the 'fallback position' really isnt a position that should be considered in the slightest.
The question isnt 'will NFL owners hold offers back due to the issues surrounding Kaep' as has been implied. As a whole, they did not. Yet somehow that is the moral question we are commiserating on -- wherein fact that supposition *isnt* a supposition at all. He was offered backup positions, at backup pay. Note the plural.
So I would retreat from the position that the NFL en masse has blackballed him, as seemingly is being implied.
That is one of the reasons I found the proffered articles really biased -- they were all written as though there have been zero offers. Which is apparently false.
93 then makes the point "there were doubtlessly inferior QB's there. I haven't read much to dispute that from NFL people." Pure stats, and even a mix of politics doesnt help 93's position.
Kaep was an adept performer in one system -- and that offensive scheme overall was a fairly unique one and adapted to Kaep's strengths and designed and drafted to avoid his weaknesses. 93's comments *might* be a point, that is if every NFL offensive system shared those somewhat unique attributes that the 49ers employed at that time. But, just a small handful did -- probably no more than two others.
No offense, but adapting a 'fire drill' quarterback to the 49ers system would have been an utter disaster --- correspondingly adapting Kaep to systems that emphasized his weaknesses would have been as well. And that is a reason why I find 93s comments abut stats and 'inferior quarterbacks' at best non-germane, and potentially at worst muddying the real issue there.