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(05-03-2020 08:25 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:10 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Have to do a national search. Find the best candidate not necessarily the most highly qualified. Maybe someone with a non traditional background.
Preferrably a mover and shaker from government or business. Somebody like Kasich(budget minded and ties to Ohio/Columbus-State government) would be a decent choice.

Worked very well for Purdue. Cut inefficiencies, held tuition 7 years I believe now. Without major complaint. Expanded the research park into a hopeful money maker, expanded academic outreach into the lowest economic regions of Indy through the Polytechnic High School (now schools after short term success) and globally through purchase of Kaplan.

A capitalist sure. It takes money to save money but more important someone from the true compasionate conservative movement that had kind of died on the tree.

Academia at the university and particularly at the local public level has always resisted hiring leadership, "not like us," and they continue to fail because they are so inbred. A voice or opinion of diverse experience risks the wrong end of the whack-a-mole game.

UT has an opportunity here. Same-ol, same-ol or look to who has experience and a plan in place and force of will power to serve the people, not themselves. Someone with the will to tell the hangers on, you stay only if you get on with the new program. With the right motivations, both needs tend to get met. There are skilled corporate capable individuals who are looking for institutions willing to break with the old and allow built institutions that serve the people. Find one of those.

Purdue has a plan to be, fully open in August. Come to fruition or not, they have contingencies in place so that decisions can be implemented quickly. The biggest cheerleader for that is the president. The heart seems honest. I hope it works for them.

Vic Kapoor did that and the faculty revolted and then "everybody" thought Kapoor was a terrible president and ran him off......
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(05-04-2020 06:53 AM)UTerry Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:25 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:10 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Have to do a national search. Find the best candidate not necessarily the most highly qualified. Maybe someone with a non traditional background.
Preferrably a mover and shaker from government or business. Somebody like Kasich(budget minded and ties to Ohio/Columbus-State government) would be a decent choice.

Worked very well for Purdue. Cut inefficiencies, held tuition 7 years I believe now. Without major complaint. Expanded the research park into a hopeful money maker, expanded academic outreach into the lowest economic regions of Indy through the Polytechnic High School (now schools after short term success) and globally through purchase of Kaplan.

A capitalist sure. It takes money to save money but more important someone from the true compasionate conservative movement that had kind of died on the tree.

Academia at the university and particularly at the local public level has always resisted hiring leadership, "not like us," and they continue to fail because they are so inbred. A voice or opinion of diverse experience risks the wrong end of the whack-a-mole game.

UT has an opportunity here. Same-ol, same-ol or look to who has experience and a plan in place and force of will power to serve the people, not themselves. Someone with the will to tell the hangers on, you stay only if you get on with the new program. With the right motivations, both needs tend to get met. There are skilled corporate capable individuals who are looking for institutions willing to break with the old and allow built institutions that serve the people. Find one of those.

Purdue has a plan to be, fully open in August. Come to fruition or not, they have contingencies in place so that decisions can be implemented quickly. The biggest cheerleader for that is the president. The heart seems honest. I hope it works for them.

Vic Kapoor did that and the faculty revolted and then "everybody" thought Kapoor was a terrible president and ran him off......

One reason I've never been a big fan of tenure.
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I agree with east's sentiment here.

Put simply, UT is a failing business right now, we have diminishing returns, diminishing ability to recruit an increasingly scarce input product, and diminishing income from outside entities. We need someone with a mind that understands how to improve failing or diminishing businesses, not someone who has taught Anthropology or Physics for 20 years and got pulled up the ladder.
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(05-04-2020 09:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I agree with east's sentiment here.

Put simply, UT is a failing business right now, we have diminishing returns, diminishing ability to recruit an increasingly scarce input product, and diminishing income from outside entities. We need someone with a mind that understands how to improve failing or diminishing businesses, not someone who has taught Anthropology or Physics for 20 years and got pulled up the ladder.

I'm there.
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What UT also needs is alumnae reaching into their pockets, if they can during these hard times, and passing some $$$$ along to the U. It's really bad here in NJ. The death rate I think is only second to NY. I haven't been out of my house since March 21st. Haven't been to a restaurant since that time either. I received a letter from the Toledo Foundation on Friday asking for $$$ for COVID support for affected students. I'm going too use the money that I haven'r spent on pizza and going out as a small donation.

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(05-04-2020 09:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  I agree with east's sentiment here.

Put simply, UT is a failing business right now, we have diminishing returns, diminishing ability to recruit an increasingly scarce input product, and diminishing income from outside entities. We need someone with a mind that understands how to improve failing or diminishing businesses, not someone who has taught Anthropology or Physics for 20 years and got pulled up the ladder.


Nailed it! I'm actually agreeing with East. I must have Covid and the end is near....
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(05-03-2020 05:55 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  UT academic enterprise is a $600+ million operation, UTMC is $200+ million and losing millions each week.
UT is a university with a mission of higher education, does not need to run a hospital, especially an independent failing operation at a time when large scale corporate heath care is the successful model. Priority and financial focus of the Board needs be on the academic mission of UT, move on from the hospital and direct efforts, including hiring a President to run the 5th largest public university in Ohio

Sale or turn over operation of UTMC to others experienced and interested in running a hospital - that's the plan and the reality. If state and federal representatives, plus Carty and his friends, want to keep UTMC open, then pony up $150m and turn its ownership and operation to another entity, its does not and should not stay as part of UTMC and if the staff and workers at UTMC are looking for a sustained future it will be without UT. Its a disservice to Ohio taxpayers for UT to have its financial future held by a failing hospital operation.

Conduct a national search and hire a President who knows how to run a University, a local or state/federal person would be the worse decision to be made.

Like President Gaber or not, I don't care, only opinion that really matters are those who actually understand UT operations and her successes and efforts while President, including those locally, regionally and nationally who speak highly of her. Carty and others, including UTMC supporters and members of the public (that includes some alumni) have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to what has been achieved in last 5 years.

OK you don't like that she made a career of staying at UT, or timing of her departure, but its her life and professional career, the days of local or current university administrators hired as Presidents and staying for 10+ yr plus is not how those positions and careers evolve. Best universities conduct a national search and bring the best person to led a university, if you truly want a successful UT (I am not really so sure TheBlade or Carty care about that) you would want the best person for the job, best experience, knowledge and expertise, not a current or former state or federal politician, and certainly not the in-house candidate.

I must have no idea what I'm talking about because I was not impressed by Gaber's tenure. And I do think that it is a detriment to the University when the President's primary concern is building a resume rather than bettering the University. Sometimes those things go hand in hand, but other times something that looks good on a resume is not the best action for the University.
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(05-04-2020 10:25 AM)MotoRocket Wrote:  Nailed it! I'm actually agreeing with East. I must have Covid and the end is near....

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Gaber's time has thankfully run-out. She knew she could not move the university forward from this point in time.

Most presidents terms last 8 to 10 years not 5. Everyone was infatuated with her being the first female president. That cut her a LOT of slack. I open minded to all qualified candidates. We need the best president available.

UT will survive and thrive but laser focus is required.

I'm more excited about UT's future than ever.

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(05-04-2020 06:53 AM)UTerry Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:25 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:10 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Have to do a national search. Find the best candidate not necessarily the most highly qualified. Maybe someone with a non traditional background.
Preferrably a mover and shaker from government or business. Somebody like Kasich(budget minded and ties to Ohio/Columbus-State government) would be a decent choice.

Worked very well for Purdue. Cut inefficiencies, held tuition 7 years I believe now. Without major complaint. Expanded the research park into a hopeful money maker, expanded academic outreach into the lowest economic regions of Indy through the Polytechnic High School (now schools after short term success) and globally through purchase of Kaplan.

A capitalist sure. It takes money to save money but more important someone from the true compasionate conservative movement that had kind of died on the tree.

Academia at the university and particularly at the local public level has always resisted hiring leadership, "not like us," and they continue to fail because they are so inbred. A voice or opinion of diverse experience risks the wrong end of the whack-a-mole game.

UT has an opportunity here. Same-ol, same-ol or look to who has experience and a plan in place and force of will power to serve the people, not themselves. Someone with the will to tell the hangers on, you stay only if you get on with the new program. With the right motivations, both needs tend to get met. There are skilled corporate capable individuals who are looking for institutions willing to break with the old and allow built institutions that serve the people. Find one of those.

Purdue has a plan to be, fully open in August. Come to fruition or not, they have contingencies in place so that decisions can be implemented quickly. The biggest cheerleader for that is the president. The heart seems honest. I hope it works for them.

Vic Kapoor did that and the faculty revolted and then "everybody" thought Kapoor was a terrible president and ran him off......

Specifically, which part of it are you saying Vic Kapoor did? I think by your own post we can omit "without complaint."
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(05-04-2020 10:14 AM)Somersetco Wrote:  What UT also needs is alumnae reaching into their pockets,
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Coming back to my example: (yes I know these are long)

Presuming UT alums donate for the same reasons as Purdue alums, when they see potential return, not personal return but money well spent, they give. Most people who value their University because it was instrumental in getting them where they are in life are inherently people of service and giving.

When you start your speech with, "people deserve a Purdue education," you're going to get attention of the alums. When you finish your speech with plans for how you are going to extend that education to people who could not previously attain it, you're going to grab hearts.

Those efforts I described aren't succeeding because money rolled in. Money rolled in because people saw their personal values being put to work.

A couple other examples, which I've relayed here in the past.

Minority/First Gen GPA was a tad higher on average than overall, almost unheard of. That not being good enough, he decides Purdue is going to build a high school with the express goal of helping MORE lower economic kids become "Purdue ready." Being a true biz type, one year from idea to inception. No building to put it in? Not a barrier. Renovate a warehouse... There were no barriers to getting it done permitted. I was doubting when I saw the Admin wasn't being populated by people from education. They were non-profit fund raisers...

Nearly all the Freshman class became Sophmores. In the inner-city, that is unheard of. After one year, Indy asked them to build another school and they did. Money where your mouth is? The Pres himself started a college endowment for the graduates of that HS and alums are jumping on-board.

Still a work in progress. Could still fall on its face. In two years they'll have an idea when that initial Fr class matriculates.

Having confidence in the value of their diploma, Purdue borrowed an idea that had floated at a smaller school, of picking up the burden of student loans. The University makes the loan. Pay back is a % of the income. Smaller starting income, smaller loan payment. This lets your alums use their money to start life. As income increases, payment increases. The program has such positive response, Alums are now helping to fund it.

Every program is an investment of money with a planned return. New student demographics. More successful young alums.... Alums will invest in that.

He WAS a politician. Governor before Pence. But not a career politician. He was also CEO of Ely Lilly.

A UNIversity develops people who are meant to run the world. Why wait until they graduate before leveraging that synergy? A good biz person doesn't. A remotely functional education person shouldn't but they are ingrained in the way things have always been done. Our cliques way or the highway, no one else gets a vote. They are unsuccessful.

UT finds one whose goal is service, not moving up the educational rankings, whose goal is to build an entity that serves deep into the community, whose goal is to find those local diamonds, who has experience and success in recognizing, developing, integrating and leveraging talent; see what they got to say.

Another thing a really good biz person can do? Say all that in one paragraph, lol.
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(05-04-2020 10:35 AM)Dwight Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 05:55 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  UT academic enterprise is a $600+ million operation, UTMC is $200+ million and losing millions each week.
UT is a university with a mission of higher education, does not need to run a hospital, especially an independent failing operation at a time when large scale corporate heath care is the successful model. Priority and financial focus of the Board needs be on the academic mission of UT, move on from the hospital and direct efforts, including hiring a President to run the 5th largest public university in Ohio

Sale or turn over operation of UTMC to others experienced and interested in running a hospital - that's the plan and the reality. If state and federal representatives, plus Carty and his friends, want to keep UTMC open, then pony up $150m and turn its ownership and operation to another entity, its does not and should not stay as part of UTMC and if the staff and workers at UTMC are looking for a sustained future it will be without UT. Its a disservice to Ohio taxpayers for UT to have its financial future held by a failing hospital operation.

Conduct a national search and hire a President who knows how to run a University, a local or state/federal person would be the worse decision to be made.

Like President Gaber or not, I don't care, only opinion that really matters are those who actually understand UT operations and her successes and efforts while President, including those locally, regionally and nationally who speak highly of her. Carty and others, including UTMC supporters and members of the public (that includes some alumni) have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to what has been achieved in last 5 years.

OK you don't like that she made a career of staying at UT, or timing of her departure, but its her life and professional career, the days of local or current university administrators hired as Presidents and staying for 10+ yr plus is not how those positions and careers evolve. Best universities conduct a national search and bring the best person to led a university, if you truly want a successful UT (I am not really so sure TheBlade or Carty care about that) you would want the best person for the job, best experience, knowledge and expertise, not a current or former state or federal politician, and certainly not the in-house candidate.

I must have no idea what I'm talking about because I was not impressed by Gaber's tenure. And I do think that it is a detriment to the University when the President's primary concern is building a resume rather than bettering the University. Sometimes those things go hand in hand, but other times something that looks good on a resume is not the best action for the University.

You only have to know or have experienced the tenures of her predecessors to appreciate her efforts and accomplishments-while handed a budget shortfall that was hidden from her when interviewing, declining state support, and enrollment challenges. On the academic side there are plenty of measures and data that shows improvements including retention and graduation rates. Yep still plenty needed to be done, but in many respects improvements have been made, plus if her legacy includes efforts to free UT of UTMC that will be another success towards are more sound financial future for UT.
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(05-04-2020 05:26 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(05-04-2020 06:53 AM)UTerry Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:25 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:10 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Have to do a national search. Find the best candidate not necessarily the most highly qualified. Maybe someone with a non traditional background.
Preferrably a mover and shaker from government or business. Somebody like Kasich(budget minded and ties to Ohio/Columbus-State government) would be a decent choice.

Worked very well for Purdue. Cut inefficiencies, held tuition 7 years I believe now. Without major complaint. Expanded the research park into a hopeful money maker, expanded academic outreach into the lowest economic regions of Indy through the Polytechnic High School (now schools after short term success) and globally through purchase of Kaplan.

A capitalist sure. It takes money to save money but more important someone from the true compasionate conservative movement that had kind of died on the tree.

Academia at the university and particularly at the local public level has always resisted hiring leadership, "not like us," and they continue to fail because they are so inbred. A voice or opinion of diverse experience risks the wrong end of the whack-a-mole game.

UT has an opportunity here. Same-ol, same-ol or look to who has experience and a plan in place and force of will power to serve the people, not themselves. Someone with the will to tell the hangers on, you stay only if you get on with the new program. With the right motivations, both needs tend to get met. There are skilled corporate capable individuals who are looking for institutions willing to break with the old and allow built institutions that serve the people. Find one of those.

Purdue has a plan to be, fully open in August. Come to fruition or not, they have contingencies in place so that decisions can be implemented quickly. The biggest cheerleader for that is the president. The heart seems honest. I hope it works for them.

Vic Kapoor did that and the faculty revolted and then "everybody" thought Kapoor was a terrible president and ran him off......

Specifically, which part of it are you saying Vic Kapoor did? I think by your own post we can omit "without complaint."

"Vic Kapoor did that and the faculty revolted and then "everybody" thought Kapoor was a terrible president and ran him off......"

Vic did himself in, and it was not the faculty but community leaders complaining to the BOT and the Board that got smart one year in to cut its losses and get him out. The stories that people could tell you about Vic and his reign of terror would appall you about how he behaved, his wild crazy ideas, and huge ego, if you only knew the path he was on that would have destroyed UT.
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(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  Gaber's time has thankfully run-out. She knew she could not move the university forward from this point in time.

Most presidents terms last 8 to 10 years not 5. Everyone was infatuated with her being the first female president. That cut her a LOT of slack. I open minded to all qualified candidates. We need the best president available.

UT will survive and thrive but laser focus is required.

I'm more excited about UT's future than ever.

Go Rockets!

"Most presidents terms last 8 to 10 years not 5"

For decades that was the case, it is not the current model, right or wrong the turn over of Presidents is much sooner, 5 yrs is the norm
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(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  Gaber's time has thankfully run-out. She knew she could not move the university forward from this point in time.

Most presidents terms last 8 to 10 years not 5. Everyone was infatuated with her being the first female president. That cut her a LOT of slack. I open minded to all qualified candidates. We need the best president available.

UT will survive and thrive but laser focus is required.

I'm more excited about UT's future than ever.

Go Rockets!

"I'm more excited about UT's future than ever."

Not so sure that view is shared by many at UT or in the community, 25 yrs years here, and knowing many others with similar or longer service, and agreement is that the upcoming budget cuts are the greatest threat to the future of UT in its recent history, back at least 50 years. It will be a different place in the coming years, I doubt it will be much better, and in terms of aspects beyond academic, like community engagement, supporting local businesses and employment, public services and events, Athletics, that is where its impact and influence will be most greatly reduced.
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(05-03-2020 08:06 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Paul, is that 9-figure sum you put out there for UTMC just a shot in the dark, or have you heard anything that makes you believe that's a dollar amount that could actually come from the sale of the property?

$150m is a number I have been told multiple times, but I am not certain as whether that is what it would take to offload, its value or likely sale amount.
I don't think the CFO views getting rid of UTMC as a revenue generating move as much as getting rid of the current, continued and potential future debt and financial noose around neck of UT.
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(05-04-2020 06:09 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(05-04-2020 10:14 AM)Somersetco Wrote:  What UT also needs is alumnae reaching into their pockets,
GO ROCKETS! A&S 65

Coming back to my example: (yes I know these are long)

Presuming UT alums donate for the same reasons as Purdue alums, when they see potential return, not personal return but money well spent, they give. Most people who value their University because it was instrumental in getting them where they are in life are inherently people of service and giving.

When you start your speech with, "people deserve a Purdue education," you're going to get attention of the alums. When you finish your speech with plans for how you are going to extend that education to people who could not previously attain it, you're going to grab hearts.

Those efforts I described aren't succeeding because money rolled in. Money rolled in because people saw their personal values being put to work.

A couple other examples, which I've relayed here in the past.

Minority/First Gen GPA was a tad higher on average than overall, almost unheard of. That not being good enough, he decides Purdue is going to build a high school with the express goal of helping MORE lower economic kids become "Purdue ready." Being a true biz type, one year from idea to inception. No building to put it in? Not a barrier. Renovate a warehouse... There were no barriers to getting it done permitted. I was doubting when I saw the Admin wasn't being populated by people from education. They were non-profit fund raisers...

Nearly all the Freshman class became Sophmores. In the inner-city, that is unheard of. After one year, Indy asked them to build another school and they did. Money where your mouth is? The Pres himself started a college endowment for the graduates of that HS and alums are jumping on-board.

Still a work in progress. Could still fall on its face. In two years they'll have an idea when that initial Fr class matriculates.

Having confidence in the value of their diploma, Purdue borrowed an idea that had floated at a smaller school, of picking up the burden of student loans. The University makes the loan. Pay back is a % of the income. Smaller starting income, smaller loan payment. This lets your alums use their money to start life. As income increases, payment increases. The program has such positive response, Alums are now helping to fund it.

Every program is an investment of money with a planned return. New student demographics. More successful young alums.... Alums will invest in that.

He WAS a politician. Governor before Pence. But not a career politician. He was also CEO of Ely Lilly.

A UNIversity develops people who are meant to run the world. Why wait until they graduate before leveraging that synergy? A good biz person doesn't. A remotely functional education person shouldn't but they are ingrained in the way things have always been done. Our cliques way or the highway, no one else gets a vote. They are unsuccessful.

UT finds one whose goal is service, not moving up the educational rankings, whose goal is to build an entity that serves deep into the community, whose goal is to find those local diamonds, who has experience and success in recognizing, developing, integrating and leveraging talent; see what they got to say.

Another thing a really good biz person can do? Say all that in one paragraph, lol.

Compare Purdue's budget and endowment when Daniels became President, $2 billion budget and $2 billion endowment, yes he had a vision and initiative, much easier to that when you have resources (financial and otherwise) to back you and to use.
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Well PaulJ....who is to blame for this mess??????????????????

Obviously several administrations have been blatantly incompetent. People have been paid large sums of money, socialized with local big-wigs, enjoyed perks and privileges and this is what we have to show for these leaders. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE!! COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!!! Yes public funding has changed - so change with the times like all other institutions and businesses. Get your **** together administration or be chopped !!!!!!!!! No one should, including Gaber, receive any praise for a school not well managed. The board is incompetent and house cleaning should start right now. I am livid over just being told things suck.
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(05-04-2020 06:53 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  
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(05-04-2020 06:53 AM)UTerry Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:25 AM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(05-03-2020 08:10 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  Have to do a national search. Find the best candidate not necessarily the most highly qualified. Maybe someone with a non traditional background.
Preferrably a mover and shaker from government or business. Somebody like Kasich(budget minded and ties to Ohio/Columbus-State government) would be a decent choice.

Worked very well for Purdue. Cut inefficiencies, held tuition 7 years I believe now. Without major complaint. Expanded the research park into a hopeful money maker, expanded academic outreach into the lowest economic regions of Indy through the Polytechnic High School (now schools after short term success) and globally through purchase of Kaplan.

A capitalist sure. It takes money to save money but more important someone from the true compasionate conservative movement that had kind of died on the tree.

Academia at the university and particularly at the local public level has always resisted hiring leadership, "not like us," and they continue to fail because they are so inbred. A voice or opinion of diverse experience risks the wrong end of the whack-a-mole game.

UT has an opportunity here. Same-ol, same-ol or look to who has experience and a plan in place and force of will power to serve the people, not themselves. Someone with the will to tell the hangers on, you stay only if you get on with the new program. With the right motivations, both needs tend to get met. There are skilled corporate capable individuals who are looking for institutions willing to break with the old and allow built institutions that serve the people. Find one of those.

Purdue has a plan to be, fully open in August. Come to fruition or not, they have contingencies in place so that decisions can be implemented quickly. The biggest cheerleader for that is the president. The heart seems honest. I hope it works for them.

Vic Kapoor did that and the faculty revolted and then "everybody" thought Kapoor was a terrible president and ran him off......

Specifically, which part of it are you saying Vic Kapoor did? I think by your own post we can omit "without complaint."

"Vic Kapoor did that and the faculty revolted and then "everybody" thought Kapoor was a terrible president and ran him off......"

Vic did himself in, and it was not the faculty but community leaders complaining to the BOT and the Board that got smart one year in to cut its losses and get him out. The stories that people could tell you about Vic and his reign of terror would appall you about how he behaved, his wild crazy ideas, and huge ego, if you only knew the path he was on that would have destroyed UT.

The Faculty Senate was the biggest voice of opposition. I don't consider them "community leaders"...… just saying
05-05-2020 08:22 AM
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(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote:  Well PaulJ....who is to blame for this mess??????????????????

Obviously several administrations have been blatantly incompetent. People have been paid large sums of money, socialized with local big-wigs, enjoyed perks and privileges and this is what we have to show for these leaders. IT IS UNACCEPTABLE!! COMPLETELY UNACCEPTABLE!!! Yes public funding has changed - so change with the times like all other institutions and businesses. Get your **** together administration or be chopped !!!!!!!!! No one should, including Gaber, receive any praise for a school not well managed. The board is incompetent and house cleaning should start right now. I am livid over just being told things suck.

my question is....
How do other universities all over the country and even the world run and operate very successful hospitals?
and why couldn't UT???
What went wrong????
Obviously it can be done...….
05-05-2020 08:27 AM
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