(04-26-2020 09:00 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:54 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:47 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:30 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 06:08 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How about we rebell against idiot people like this jackwipe?

He is a lot smarter than you. You get treated with kid gloves around here. Be thankful.

Isn't he the guy that put together some expose complaining how panhandling is too lucrative and the income isn't taxable? Stossel's a clown.

So you thing panhandlers pay taxes on that income?

I'm saying if your problem with panhandling is whether or not they declare their income on a 1040 your priorities are completely out of whack.

We have "panhandlers" in our city that likely make 50K to 100K per year. Certain intersections were really profitable.

(04-26-2020 09:06 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 09:00 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:54 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:47 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:30 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  He is a lot smarter than you. You get treated with kid gloves around here. Be thankful.

Isn't he the guy that put together some expose complaining how panhandling is too lucrative and the income isn't taxable? Stossel's a clown.

So you thing panhandlers pay taxes on that income?

I'm saying if your problem with panhandling is whether or not they declare their income on a 1040 your priorities are completely out of whack.

We have "panhandlers" in our city that likely make 50K to 100K per year. Certain intersections were really profitable.

How about not derailing the topic?

(04-26-2020 08:51 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  Honestly, I think one of the stupidest decisions we can make is a one size fits all approach to getting back to normal.

IMO, most of the country is likely already at the point of returning to closer to normalcy. Places like NYC, Detroit, etc. probably aren’t there yet.

Obviously, if different areas of the country choose how they are going to approach things, some will do it well while others don’t. Hopefully, those that suck will reap their appropriate reward at the polls next election.

I agree.

It's also just plain silly that state governors don't realize that places within states should be opening up at different times. There's no reason that Buffalo's or Ithaca's reopening should be delayed until Manhattan is back to manageable levels.

As someone who lives in central Illinois, this is particularly frustrating. Cook County has completely different problems than us, yet we're lumped right in with them.

Yep. You are exactly right. Even within states, the one size fits all is stupid. Obviously, big cities are more problematic, rural towns not so much. Nursing homes should be much stricter, etc.

Unfortunately, government has never been very good at anything but “one size fits all” and that’s when all the unintended consequences seem to come into play.

(04-26-2020 09:13 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:51 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  Honestly, I think one of the stupidest decisions we can make is a one size fits all approach to getting back to normal.

IMO, most of the country is likely already at the point of returning to closer to normalcy. Places like NYC, Detroit, etc. probably aren’t there yet.

Obviously, if different areas of the country choose how they are going to approach things, some will do it well while others don’t. Hopefully, those that suck will reap their appropriate reward at the polls next election.

I agree.

It's also just plain silly that state governors don't realize that places within states should be opening up at different times. There's no reason that Buffalo's or Ithaca's reopening should be delayed until Manhattan is back to manageable levels.

As someone who lives in central Illinois, this is particularly frustrating. Cook County has completely different problems than us, yet we're lumped right in with them.

Yep. You are exactly right. Even within states, the one size fits all is stupid. Obviously, big cities are more problematic, rural towns not so much. Nursing homes should be much stricter, etc.

Unfortunately, government has never been very good at anything but “one size fits all” and that’s when all the unintended consequences seem to come into play.

This. My SIL is a med/surg floor nurse at the largest hospital on the MS gulf coast and she hasn't worked in two weeks. She told me today her super said they had zero patients on Friday. ZERO.

(04-26-2020 06:08 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How about we rebell against idiot people like this jackwipe?

Stossel? What is jackwipeish about this? Pointing out arresting people for watching a sunset in their car is stupid? Having an opinion that does not align with your views?

Stossel is pretty damn good at pointing out the lunacy of things - which he has done so once again in that piece.


Nobody (including him) is suggesting that people act without common sense and respect for the health and safety of those around us. He is merely pointing out that people can actually and should actually do just that. Over the top reactions are killing this country and it may take a generation to undo what has been done if we don't get back to business sooner than later. If some jackwipe wants to run around touching people and coughing on people he/she should summarily get their ass beaten - other than that, people should be able to function and earn a living.

According to police, the email read: “I know you’re the receptionist and not responsible for these edicts… but tell the 9 petty tyrants who want to keep locking most of Colorado down to F--- OFF.”

It went on to say that officials should “END. THE LOCKDOWN. NOW. Or face severe consequences.”

“’We the people’ are DONE with this f---ing bulls---,” the email said, “and you’re about to start a hot-shooting no bulls--- civil war.”

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/lo...lth-office

(04-26-2020 06:55 PM)cb4029 Wrote:  You dummies need to start your civil war first.

We will let you know when you can leave your basement. About next December sounds about right...

(04-26-2020 08:47 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:30 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 06:08 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  How about we rebell against idiot people like this jackwipe?

He is a lot smarter than you. You get treated with kid gloves around here. Be thankful.

Isn't he the guy that put together some expose complaining how panhandling is too lucrative and the income isn't taxable? Stossel's a clown.

Yes. And it was epic! If you haven’t seen it you should because you don’t want to be a clown to anyone else you might repeat that to.

When there is a Rebellion liberals will be hiding in their safe rooms. I would expect nothing less from those that show up here occasionally to spout whatever the looney left’s talking point for that day is.

When the Rebellion comes, and it will come, it will be sparked by a liberal policy that over steps onto our constitutional rights. For example if the Left pushes to eliminate the 2nd amendment. When the Left starts to disarm us the Rebellion will start.

To quote John Quincy Adams:

“And if it means civil war, then let it come. And when it does, may it be, finally, the last battle of the American Revolution.“

I've thought for a while the USA's biggest weakness is it tries to accommodate so many differing opinions. But I guess that happens in any society. I guess if you don't like where things are going, move to a state that best fits what you want.

I could see the Left eliminating the 2nd amendment sparking it, but the judges have always seemed to rule in conservative opinion on that. When they finally don't, it'll be because Liberals were elected to appoint those judges. By then eliminating the 2nd amendment will be favorable to the majority, and at most you'd maybe see a couple Deep Red states trying to secede again.

Things like controls on churches could spark it - as judges don't seem to rule quite so favorably for them.

(04-26-2020 09:13 PM)Crebman Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:51 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(04-26-2020 08:14 PM)Crebman Wrote:  Honestly, I think one of the stupidest decisions we can make is a one size fits all approach to getting back to normal.

IMO, most of the country is likely already at the point of returning to closer to normalcy. Places like NYC, Detroit, etc. probably aren’t there yet.

Obviously, if different areas of the country choose how they are going to approach things, some will do it well while others don’t. Hopefully, those that suck will reap their appropriate reward at the polls next election.

I agree.

It's also just plain silly that state governors don't realize that places within states should be opening up at different times. There's no reason that Buffalo's or Ithaca's reopening should be delayed until Manhattan is back to manageable levels.

As someone who lives in central Illinois, this is particularly frustrating. Cook County has completely different problems than us, yet we're lumped right in with them.

Yep. You are exactly right. Even within states, the one size fits all is stupid. Obviously, big cities are more problematic, rural towns not so much. Nursing homes should be much stricter, etc.

Unfortunately, government has never been very good at anything but “one size fits all” and that’s when all the unintended consequences seem to come into play.

See this thread on distribution of covid-19 cases and deaths

(05-07-2020 04:36 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought for a while the USA's biggest weakness is it tries to accommodate so many differing opinions. But I guess that happens in any society. I guess if you don't like where things are going, move to a state that best fits what you want.

I could see the Left eliminating the 2nd amendment sparking it, but the judges have always seemed to rule in conservative opinion on that. When they finally don't, it'll be because Liberals were elected to appoint those judges. By then eliminating the 2nd amendment will be favorable to the majority, and at most you'd maybe see a couple Deep Red states trying to secede again.

Things like controls on churches could spark it - as judges don't seem to rule quite so favorably for them.

Both excellent points
Honestly, thinking about the future, with the dumbing down of our educational system, and our schools conversion to liberal indoctrination centers, the future of our democracy is in serious jeopardy.

All the globalists need to do is be patient. Wait for the millennials to assume leadership positions in government and America, as we know it, falls.

Reagan warned us...

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

I take back what I said on guns. With Executive Orders, all it takes is governors/the president declaring guns need to be round up, and you'd get that spark. By the time the judges got involved, it'd be too late. The police force assigned to take the guns would follow no question because they'd 'just be following orders'.

It'd be that simple. Second that happens you've got a firestorm.

(05-07-2020 07:54 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 04:36 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  I've thought for a while the USA's biggest weakness is it tries to accommodate so many differing opinions. But I guess that happens in any society. I guess if you don't like where things are going, move to a state that best fits what you want.

I could see the Left eliminating the 2nd amendment sparking it, but the judges have always seemed to rule in conservative opinion on that. When they finally don't, it'll be because Liberals were elected to appoint those judges. By then eliminating the 2nd amendment will be favorable to the majority, and at most you'd maybe see a couple Deep Red states trying to secede again.

Things like controls on churches could spark it - as judges don't seem to rule quite so favorably for them.

Both excellent points
Honestly, thinking about the future, with the dumbing down of our educational system, and our schools conversion to liberal indoctrination centers, the future of our democracy is in serious jeopardy.

All the globalists need to do is be patient. Wait for the millennials to assume leadership positions in government and America, as we know it, falls.

Reagan warned us...

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”

The millennial boogeyman

And lest you forget Reagan signed the Mulford Act.

The video was 1,000x better than the title.

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welp, here it comes....let’s see how it unfolds.

Some of California's counties did that, and that's why Newsom say's they're going to Phase II. Sure wish our counties in Michigan would do that because our governor's threatening to go back to Phase Negative Five

Dan Gainor of Newsbusters gave the clearest and most concise evaluation that I've heard for this whole debacle today.
He said the coronavirus response could be summed up in two words: safety and freedom. His interview commentary were spot on. Below I've taken his premise and added to it as I see things unfolding.

The left demands what amounts to guaranteed safety provided by govt regardless of the cost and practicality. The right demands freedom to carry on with their lives, enjoying the fruits of their labor and their constitutional rights.

Obviously the answer lies in a balance of the two. The problem is the government cannot guarantee safety from the coronavirus, yet seems unwilling to respect the rights of citizens, demanding that they willingly surrender their rights in exchange for a sense of safety. Eventually we all know what happens. This time it wont be tea tossed in a harbor. It will be salons and barbers, restaurants and bars opening their doors. It will be law abiding citizens risking jail just to make enough money to feed their kids or pay their rent. When enough of them are jailed, have their licenses taken and thie doors shut permanently, that's when things get ugly.

Just ask yourself, how far will you go to put food on your kid's plate and keep a roof over their head?

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(05-08-2020 09:54 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Dan Gainor of Newsbusters gave the clearest and most concise evaluation that I've heard for this whole debacle today.
He said the coronavirus response could be summed up in two words: safety and freedom. His interview commentary were spot on. Below I've taken his premise and added to it as I see things unfolding.

The left demands what amounts to guaranteed safety provided by govt regardless of the cost and practicality. The right demands freedom to carry on with their lives, enjoying the fruits of their labor and their constitutional rights.

Obviously the answer lies in a balance of the two. The problem is the government cannot guarantee safety from the coronavirus, yet seems unwilling to respect the rights of citizens, demanding that they willingly surrender their rights in exchange for a sense of safety. Eventually we all know what happens. This time it wont be tea tossed in a harbor. It will be salons and barbers, restaurants and bars opening their doors. It will be law abiding citizens risking jail just to make enough money to feed their kids or pay their rent. When enough of them are jailed, have their licenses taken and thie doors shut permanently, that's when things get ugly.

Just ask yourself, how far will you go to put food on your kid's plate and keep a roof over their head?

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whatever it takes until my last breath....

Crazy Queen Governor here in Michigan extended this out until May 28th. Neighbors are all getting together for a cookout and happy hour tomorrow in honor of her.