Yeah Bartow only left us with Isaac Banks, AJ Merriweather, Peter Jurkin (who brought Hanner, not forbes), Lester Wilson and Desonta Bradford (the only player to win socon player of the year under Forbes). A real turd sandwich.

(05-07-2020 05:52 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:51 PM)shampoo Wrote:  

(05-07-2020 05:45 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  Bo Hodges to the transfer portal.

Ah, ****. Will he wind up at Wake or another big program, I wonder?

Anybody else going to be a bit pissed if he Or anybody else (Williamson?) end up at Wake.

OF COURSE! Can a coach take players WITH HIM to his new multi-million gig? What are the NCAA rules here? If just one ETSU player ends up at WF, then all bets are off. This will then need to be called for what it is. No more sweet talk and phony BS.


https://www.johnsoncitypress.com/Basketb...ortal.html

He can take any player he wants, just like he took some of his staff. So long that player(s) follow the current NCAA transfer rules, then it's legal. My question is if a player is following his coach and is going to transfer to that school, does that player have to still put his name in the portal? Can he just transfer like any other student? When Forbes left I was worried more of Williamson. Never thought of Bo leaving.

(05-07-2020 10:46 PM)brock20 Wrote:  Yeah Bartow only left us with Isaac Banks, AJ Merriweather, Peter Jurkin (who brought Hanner, not forbes), Lester Wilson and Desonta Bradford (the only player to win socon player of the year under Forbes). A real turd sandwich.

Wow, Brock and I agree on so many things, why did we use to clash so much?
and you forgot Petey

Would Monsanto and L. Brewer have to set out a year if they decide to transfer. I would think not since they set out this year.

(05-08-2020 07:28 AM)JakeStone617 Wrote:  Would Monsanto and L. Brewer have to set out a year if they decide to transfer. I would think not since they set out this year.

Those 2 would actually lose a year of eligibility if they transferred to another D1 school.

(05-08-2020 07:39 AM)brock20 Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 07:28 AM)JakeStone617 Wrote:  Would Monsanto and L. Brewer have to set out a year if they decide to transfer. I would think not since they set out this year.

Those 2 would actually lose a year of eligibility if they transferred to another D1 school.

Unless they one of those waivers that NCAA seems to grant or deny at random.

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(05-08-2020 06:58 AM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote:  He can take any player he wants, just like he took some of his staff. So long that player(s) follow the current NCAA transfer rules, then it's legal. My question is if a player is following his coach and is going to transfer to that school, does that player have to still put his name in the portal? Can he just transfer like any other student? When Forbes left I was worried more of Williamson. Never thought of Bo leaving.

That’s a pile of crap. Maybe legal but unprofessional and unethical!!!

How about Jalen since he's a grad transfer. Even thou he's committed to ETSU. Could he transfer to another D1. Thanks

(05-08-2020 07:57 AM)JakeStone617 Wrote:  How about Jalen since he's a grad transfer. Even thou he's committed to ETSU. Could he transfer to another D1. Thanks

He's actually signed to ETSU (along with all the other newcomers). If ETSU did not let him out of his signing, he could not play anywhere else. The norm nowadays is that the schools let them out of their signing when a coach leaves though.

Being "committed" is not actually a thing beyond just saying you are going somewhere. it doesnt tie you to a school or anything. signings do. That is why you dont see ETSU have press releases for guys just committing. they have to sign before ETSU or the coaches can talk about them publicly.

(05-08-2020 07:57 AM)JakeStone617 Wrote:  How about Jalen since he's a grad transfer. Even thou he's committed to ETSU. Could he transfer to another D1. Thanks

ETSU could release him and most schools do grant that to incoming players during a coaching change. So unless ETSU goes against what is normal yeah he could leave. Same with other the 4 guys if ETSU releases them from the LOI.

Thanks hopefully they will stay.

A little bit of clarification here, if I may....................

Forbes isn't going to "take" any players "with him". If Bo, Williamson, Monsanto, or whoever, decides they'd rather stay with Forbes, then they'd be the party initiating the process - IMO. I really think Forbes's ethics wouldn't 'allow' him to "poach" players. Meaning I don't think HE would initiate such a process. So, clearly there have been conversations between Forbes and the players "left behind". I might be wrong, but I can't imagine Forbes reaching out and "recruiting" any current ETSU players to come to Wake. It'd be more like Bo saying......"Well, coach, what should I do? I'd really like for you to still be my coach. Is there any way I could transfer to Wake?" And then Forbes would lay out the guidelines, process, etc. Forbes may well have suggested/advised Bo of his options, and laid out a scenario in which Bo could go to say, an SEC school, or wherever - to raise his profile. I personally do not think Bo fits any NBA "mold", but that he will do very well in Europe (or wherever) as a pro. He might even think along A.J.'s Globetrotter lines.

But anyway........yes, the NCAA has been pretty 'lax'(?) in allowing players to transfer with a coaching change - and I think that's fair. But could Bo (or Williamson) even get into Wake? Could Monsanto? I don't have any idea on that.

So...............if you're Daivien, and you want to go play at home in W-S, or if you're Bo and want to at least see who salutes you when you enter your name in the portal, that's just very understandable. I don't think it's like Georgetown, when as soon as those players made it known they want in the portal, Ewing had no use for them. I suspect Shay would be perfectly fine with Bo changing his mind and staying. Just a guess. But one imagines these last couple of days have been busy for Bo's phone - or they're about to be.

Here's the way that works:

"Under the college transfer policy, when a student-athlete informs a school that he wishes to transfer, that institution has two business days to enter that athlete's name into a national transfer portal. Once the student-athlete's name is in the database, other coaches from any school can contact that individual."

So.......let's just say, for example, that Vandy needs someone of Bo's skill set, and it's in his home city, and he'd get a chance to play against higher-caliber players (in general) for a lot more games. Just a plausible scenario............

(05-08-2020 08:19 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 07:57 AM)JakeStone617 Wrote:  How about Jalen since he's a grad transfer. Even thou he's committed to ETSU. Could he transfer to another D1. Thanks

ETSU could release him and most schools do grant that to incoming players during a coaching change. So unless ETSU goes against what is normal yeah he could leave. Same with other the 4 guys if ETSU releases them from the LOI.

Yea — players and their families must be protected — I get it. But, it is the institution for which they play, the one with the name on the jerseys, that’s picking up their tab, much of which is from student fees and donors. Of course that horse has been out of the barn for some time now. That’s not enough today — paying them (actually under way with the big boys) to play for said institution is very much alive. If I can move from a mid-major to a P6 school with the coach that recruited me while picking up some spending money and a chance at a higher NBA profile, of course I jump. After all, the college game is now driven by the MONEY. The free education and degree — are you kidding, what’s that all about?

This is why some preached to approach this for the long haul. Yes Shay was the best chance at keeping the team together (and he may not do it, just facts of modern college basketball). I don't know if Shay is the long term answer, he probably deserves the shot. He shouldn't be judged (at least NOW) if several players bolt. Next year might be a step back, a big one. Fans are going to have to accept that. 2 years from now and onward is where we will start to see if Shay was the right choice. Of course how he handles the adversity next year will be telling as well. We should look more out how he deals with things vs record next year.

Can he coach? all signs say yes, can he recruit? we will see.
Personally I would like to see more freshmen, more building off
a stable base vs reloading.

Just clearing things up, some people seemed to think I was for Shay because he could keep the team together, never said that, just said (in response to questions) he was probably best bet to do it.
I support the decision but I always have said I would prefer a hot shot P5 assistant.

I for one I am not worried. Just remember Shay has access to the transfer portal too!

Something else I remember posting (and I hope I was wrong) is that I thought Bo was the most important player the new coach needed to work on, to keep.
To me he is the team leader, if he stays that could help convince the others to stay. keeping the band together.

Shay better tell Hodges he is just wasting his time transferring to other schools becasue he is delaying his own pro career.

(05-07-2020 10:46 PM)brock20 Wrote:  Yeah Bartow only left us with Isaac Banks, AJ Merriweather, Peter Jurkin (who brought Hanner, not forbes), Lester Wilson and Desonta Bradford (the only player to win socon player of the year under Forbes). A real turd sandwich.

I'm going to take up for Coach Bartow. I realize he was not the best with fans or the best with X's and O's, but he brought in some great players and left the program in good shape player wise (one of those turned out to be SoCon player of the year). Mike Smith, Dillion Sneed, Adam Sollazo, AJ Merriweather, Jalen Riley, Desonta Bradford, Kevin Tiggs....those are just a few that come to mind.

(05-08-2020 09:45 AM)Buc66 Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 08:19 AM)RodShaw2 Wrote:  

(05-08-2020 07:57 AM)JakeStone617 Wrote:  How about Jalen since he's a grad transfer. Even thou he's committed to ETSU. Could he transfer to another D1. Thanks

ETSU could release him and most schools do grant that to incoming players during a coaching change. So unless ETSU goes against what is normal yeah he could leave. Same with other the 4 guys if ETSU releases them from the LOI.

Yea — players and their families must be protected — I get it. But, it is the institution for which they play, the one with the name on the jerseys, that’s picking up their tab, much of which is from student fees and donors. Of course that horse has been out of the barn for some time now. That’s not enough today — paying them (actually under way with the big boys) to play for said institution is very much alive. If I can move from a mid-major to a P6 school with the coach that recruited me while picking up some spending money and a chance at a higher NBA profile, of course I jump. After all, the college game is now driven by the MONEY. The free education and degree — are you kidding, what’s that all about?

Just a question to all on here as a follow up. How many would purchase tickets (many who are season ticket holders) and attend games at Freedom Hall for a local post-high school independent basketball team that DID NOT represent East Tennessee State University? Am I missing something here with the growing disconnect between coaches/players and the institution they’re supposed to represent? Plus, why has it become so easy to transfer all over the place with relation to staying on track for graduation when degree programs and degree requirements don’t match up from place to place?