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RE: WAC Football
(09-09-2020 02:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 11:10 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  Alright David, I'll bite-

West Texas A&M's AD is now saying the exact same thing what Tarleton State's AD said before getting an invite to D1.

Where? Whats he saying

It was something McBroom said on the PressPass Sports Podcast at the 31 minute mark. There seems to be some very large D2 schools are not happy that the Fall football season was called off by D2 officials. West Texas A&M and Angelo State are ignoring D2 officials and are lining up Southland schools for football. West Texas A&M got three D1 to play, Angelo State twice, one North American U. and one NAIA school for. There are hints that these larger schools are being handcuffed by these small private schools who are broke to even compete at the D2 level. This pandemic shows the big devide between the large publics and the small privates. It was similar to something what the Tarleton State's AD said before the pandemic. He named dropped several large schools that the NCAA D2 leadership have no best interests of heart like Commerce, Grand Valley State, Pittsburg State etc. We might be seeing a bunch of large schools making the jump in a few years. ASUN may gain some soon. WAC, Summit, Horizon and OVC have large schools in their footprints as will.

McBroom Is Deadset Against Moving Fall Sports To Spring

That is the only 3 minute read.

Podcast Episode

There are some hints there for D1.

Add Colorado Mesa to the list not happy for not playing fall football. West Texas added them for a game this year.

So, you're saying a once in a century thing like Covid, will be the tipping point for D2 schools to move up to D1?

I do agree that the only solution for long term WAC survival is the a ton of D2 schools- with or without football to move up. Are there, at least, 6 schools ready to make that move within the next 2-3 years? With the uncertain financial future of college athletics? Where layoffs, paycuts, and furloughs are happening? It's more likely that Covid had put moving to D1 on the backburner.

It would be great to see the WAC as the glorified Lone Star conference.
09-11-2020 02:56 PM
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RE: WAC Football
(09-11-2020 02:56 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 02:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 11:10 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  Alright David, I'll bite-

West Texas A&M's AD is now saying the exact same thing what Tarleton State's AD said before getting an invite to D1.

Where? Whats he saying

It was something McBroom said on the PressPass Sports Podcast at the 31 minute mark. There seems to be some very large D2 schools are not happy that the Fall football season was called off by D2 officials. West Texas A&M and Angelo State are ignoring D2 officials and are lining up Southland schools for football. West Texas A&M got three D1 to play, Angelo State twice, one North American U. and one NAIA school for. There are hints that these larger schools are being handcuffed by these small private schools who are broke to even compete at the D2 level. This pandemic shows the big devide between the large publics and the small privates. It was similar to something what the Tarleton State's AD said before the pandemic. He named dropped several large schools that the NCAA D2 leadership have no best interests of heart like Commerce, Grand Valley State, Pittsburg State etc. We might be seeing a bunch of large schools making the jump in a few years. ASUN may gain some soon. WAC, Summit, Horizon and OVC have large schools in their footprints as will.

McBroom Is Deadset Against Moving Fall Sports To Spring

That is the only 3 minute read.

Podcast Episode

There are some hints there for D1.

Add Colorado Mesa to the list not happy for not playing fall football. West Texas added them for a game this year.

So, you're saying a once in a century thing like Covid, will be the tipping point for D2 schools to move up to D1?

I do agree that the only solution for long term WAC survival is the a ton of D2 schools- with or without football to move up. Are there, at least, 6 schools ready to make that move within the next 2-3 years? With the uncertain financial future of college athletics? Where layoffs, paycuts, and furloughs are happening? It's more likely that Covid had put moving to D1 on the backburner.

It would be great to see the WAC as the glorified Lone Star conference.


D2 have become unattrctive for the large schools in D2 right now. The last straw when the NCAA approved Allen to join. Allen only have less than 1000 students, and it is those schools that get into financial for the school and for the sports. Oakland City went back to NAIA, Bridgeport is merging their school with Sacred Heart of D1 and two smaller colleges for classes. Concordia-Portland closed their doors, and Notre Dame in California is closing next year. Urbana in Ohio also shut down. There are a lot of uncertanties right now in D2. There are a lot of small private schools on the verge of shutting in D2 right now. Alaska-Anchorage dropped all of their sports in D1. D2 right now is unstable and now schools are looking for a landing spot. New Haven, U. of Indianapolis, Southern Indiana and Lindenwood is looking to escape the sinking ship where they are at. I think we might see an FCS type for all sports in D1, and the 1AA would be the new D2 at the D1 level, and only schools that apply to D1 have to show that they can handle financially to be D1.
09-12-2020 05:50 AM
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RE: WAC Football
(09-12-2020 05:50 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-11-2020 02:56 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 02:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 11:10 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  Alright David, I'll bite-

West Texas A&M's AD is now saying the exact same thing what Tarleton State's AD said before getting an invite to D1.

Where? Whats he saying

It was something McBroom said on the PressPass Sports Podcast at the 31 minute mark. There seems to be some very large D2 schools are not happy that the Fall football season was called off by D2 officials. West Texas A&M and Angelo State are ignoring D2 officials and are lining up Southland schools for football. West Texas A&M got three D1 to play, Angelo State twice, one North American U. and one NAIA school for. There are hints that these larger schools are being handcuffed by these small private schools who are broke to even compete at the D2 level. This pandemic shows the big devide between the large publics and the small privates. It was similar to something what the Tarleton State's AD said before the pandemic. He named dropped several large schools that the NCAA D2 leadership have no best interests of heart like Commerce, Grand Valley State, Pittsburg State etc. We might be seeing a bunch of large schools making the jump in a few years. ASUN may gain some soon. WAC, Summit, Horizon and OVC have large schools in their footprints as will.

McBroom Is Deadset Against Moving Fall Sports To Spring

That is the only 3 minute read.

Podcast Episode

There are some hints there for D1.

Add Colorado Mesa to the list not happy for not playing fall football. West Texas added them for a game this year.

So, you're saying a once in a century thing like Covid, will be the tipping point for D2 schools to move up to D1?

I do agree that the only solution for long term WAC survival is the a ton of D2 schools- with or without football to move up. Are there, at least, 6 schools ready to make that move within the next 2-3 years? With the uncertain financial future of college athletics? Where layoffs, paycuts, and furloughs are happening? It's more likely that Covid had put moving to D1 on the backburner.

It would be great to see the WAC as the glorified Lone Star conference.


D2 have become unattrctive for the large schools in D2 right now. The last straw when the NCAA approved Allen to join. Allen only have less than 1000 students, and it is those schools that get into financial for the school and for the sports. Oakland City went back to NAIA, Bridgeport is merging their school with Sacred Heart of D1 and two smaller colleges for classes. Concordia-Portland closed their doors, and Notre Dame in California is closing next year. Urbana in Ohio also shut down. There are a lot of uncertanties right now in D2. There are a lot of small private schools on the verge of shutting in D2 right now. Alaska-Anchorage dropped all of their sports in D1. D2 right now is unstable and now schools are looking for a landing spot. New Haven, U. of Indianapolis, Southern Indiana and Lindenwood is looking to escape the sinking ship where they are at. I think we might see an FCS type for all sports in D1, and the 1AA would be the new D2 at the D1 level, and only schools that apply to D1 have to show that they can handle financially to be D1.

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More clueless insane nonsense. At a time when budgets are being tightened, the solution is to spend more money you don't have and move to D1. At least one school has left D2 every year since 2000 and yet there are more D2 members now than then. Schools have closed before, and Allen will certainly not be the first D2 member with less than 1,000 undergraduates.
09-12-2020 10:37 AM
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Post: #184
RE: WAC Football
(09-12-2020 10:37 AM)AZcats Wrote:  
(09-12-2020 05:50 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-11-2020 02:56 PM)Hilldog Wrote:  
(09-09-2020 02:18 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(09-08-2020 11:10 PM)chrisattsu Wrote:  Alright David, I'll bite-

West Texas A&M's AD is now saying the exact same thing what Tarleton State's AD said before getting an invite to D1.

Where? Whats he saying

It was something McBroom said on the PressPass Sports Podcast at the 31 minute mark. There seems to be some very large D2 schools are not happy that the Fall football season was called off by D2 officials. West Texas A&M and Angelo State are ignoring D2 officials and are lining up Southland schools for football. West Texas A&M got three D1 to play, Angelo State twice, one North American U. and one NAIA school for. There are hints that these larger schools are being handcuffed by these small private schools who are broke to even compete at the D2 level. This pandemic shows the big devide between the large publics and the small privates. It was similar to something what the Tarleton State's AD said before the pandemic. He named dropped several large schools that the NCAA D2 leadership have no best interests of heart like Commerce, Grand Valley State, Pittsburg State etc. We might be seeing a bunch of large schools making the jump in a few years. ASUN may gain some soon. WAC, Summit, Horizon and OVC have large schools in their footprints as will.

McBroom Is Deadset Against Moving Fall Sports To Spring

That is the only 3 minute read.

Podcast Episode

There are some hints there for D1.

Add Colorado Mesa to the list not happy for not playing fall football. West Texas added them for a game this year.

So, you're saying a once in a century thing like Covid, will be the tipping point for D2 schools to move up to D1?

I do agree that the only solution for long term WAC survival is the a ton of D2 schools- with or without football to move up. Are there, at least, 6 schools ready to make that move within the next 2-3 years? With the uncertain financial future of college athletics? Where layoffs, paycuts, and furloughs are happening? It's more likely that Covid had put moving to D1 on the backburner.

It would be great to see the WAC as the glorified Lone Star conference.


D2 have become unattrctive for the large schools in D2 right now. The last straw when the NCAA approved Allen to join. Allen only have less than 1000 students, and it is those schools that get into financial for the school and for the sports. Oakland City went back to NAIA, Bridgeport is merging their school with Sacred Heart of D1 and two smaller colleges for classes. Concordia-Portland closed their doors, and Notre Dame in California is closing next year. Urbana in Ohio also shut down. There are a lot of uncertanties right now in D2. There are a lot of small private schools on the verge of shutting in D2 right now. Alaska-Anchorage dropped all of their sports in D1. D2 right now is unstable and now schools are looking for a landing spot. New Haven, U. of Indianapolis, Southern Indiana and Lindenwood is looking to escape the sinking ship where they are at. I think we might see an FCS type for all sports in D1, and the 1AA would be the new D2 at the D1 level, and only schools that apply to D1 have to show that they can handle financially to be D1.

03-lmfao 03-lmfao 03-lmfao

More clueless insane nonsense. At a time when budgets are being tightened, the solution is to spend more money you don't have and move to D1. At least one school has left D2 every year since 2000 and yet there are more D2 members now than then. Schools have closed before, and Allen will certainly not be the first D2 member with less than 1,000 undergraduates.
Also I find it funny that in this thread we are talking about schools like WT wanting to get away from a division that has schools under 1000 students while advocating for them joining a conference that has a school with just under 1500 undergraduates (3000 overall).

WT will do what is best for them. They have seen acu and tarelton move on. As someone else said conference affiliations are partnership for who you strive to be or to be with your peers. Are WTs peers UT Tyler, TAM International and Western NM their peers or do they see Tarleton and ACu?
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