May as well offer up my own challenge. Your challenge is to get FBS to 8 conferences. With the following rules:

1) No more than 16 teams in a conference
2) Conferences MUST be geographically contiguous
3) NO demoting to FCS, and if you MUST promote, 1 FCS team per FBS conference
4) You MUST dismantle a single G5 and P5, NOT 2 G5
5) Civilian student-athletes MUST be in a conference (do what you want with the academies)

I'll post mine later, though most of you can predict it

Dissolve the Big 12 and C-USA. Done. Wait... “must be in a conference“? That means 1 of Navy or Air Force must be kicked out of their conference to squeeze the other 128 teams into 8 conferences of 16.

I already have a 16 by 8 challenge.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-897815.html

(04-21-2020 04:54 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  May as well offer up my own challenge. Your challenge is to get FBS to 8 conferences. With the following rules:

1) No more than 16 teams in a conference
2) Conferences MUST be geographically contiguous
3) NO demoting to FCS, and if you MUST promote, 1 FCS team per FBS conference
4) You MUST dismantle a single G5 and P5, NOT 2 G5
5) Civilian student-athletes MUST be in a conference (do what you want with the academies)

I'll post mine later, though most of you can predict it

There are 130 schools. If you promote one FCS per conference, you get to 138. Subtract the 3 academies and you get to 135. 16X8 is 128.

Did you mean one G5 to P5?

(04-21-2020 06:54 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-21-2020 04:54 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  May as well offer up my own challenge. Your challenge is to get FBS to 8 conferences. With the following rules:

1) No more than 16 teams in a conference
2) Conferences MUST be geographically contiguous
3) NO demoting to FCS, and if you MUST promote, 1 FCS team per FBS conference
4) You MUST dismantle a single G5 and P5, NOT 2 G5
5) Civilian student-athletes MUST be in a conference (do what you want with the academies)

I'll post mine later, though most of you can predict it

There are 130 schools. If you promote one FCS per conference, you get to 138. Subtract the 3 academies and you get to 135. 16X8 is 128.

Did you mean one G5 to P5?

I think he means that there are currently 10 conferences, 5 P5 and 5 G5's and the assumption is you would dissolve 2 of them and merge those teams into the other 8 and he doesn't want the 2 dissolved to both be G5's.

Precisely schmolik!

PAC:
Oregon, Oregon State Washington, Washington State
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
California, California Los Angeles, Southern Cal, Stanford
Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas Tech

Big 10:
Maryland, Ohio State, Penn State, Rutgers
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Purdue
Illinois, Minnesota, Northwestern, Wisconsin
Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Nebraska

ACC:
Boston College, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Louisville, N.C. State, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Duke, North Carolina, Virginia, Wake Forest
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami

SEC:
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Arkansas, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Missouri, Oklahoma, T.C.U., Texas A&M

AAC:
Baylor, Houston, Rice, Southern Miss,
Cincinnati, Memphis, Southern Methodist, Tulsa
Appalachian State, Army, Navy, Temple
Central Florida, East Carolina, South Florida, Tulane

CUSA:
Alabama Birmingham, Florida Atlantic, Florida International, South Alabama, Troy

UNC Charlotte, Coastal Carolina, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Middle Tennessee,

Arkansas State, Louisiana, Louisiana Monroe, Louisiana Tech, North Texas


MWC:
Air Force, Brigham Young, Colorado State, Utah State
Fresno State, Hawaii, San Diego State, San Jose State
Boise State, Nevada, Nevada Los Vegas, Wyoming
New Mexico, Texas State, Texas San Antonio, Texas El Paso

MAC:
Akron, Kent State, Miami (Ohio), Ohio
Bowling Green, Liberty, Western Kentucky, Old Dominion
Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Toledo, Western Michigan
Ball State, Buffalo, Marshall, Massachusetts

Rule #3 says "NO demoting to FCS ....

Pardon the self-interest, but where did you put Northern Illinois?

(04-21-2020 11:43 PM)Erictelevision Wrote:  Precisely schmolik!

I missed the "if" in "if you MUST promote."

ACC E Clemson
ACC E Miami
ACC E North Carolina
ACC E North Carolina State
ACC E Pittsburg
ACC E Virginia
ACC E Virginia Tech
ACC E West Virginia
ACC W Florida
ACC W Florida State
ACC W Georgia
ACC W Georgia Tech
ACC W Kentucky
ACC W Louisville
ACC W South Carolina
ACC W Tennessee

American E Boston College
American E Central Florida
American E Duke
American E East Carolina
American E South Florida
American E Syracuse
American E Temple
American E Wake Forest
American W Cincinnati
American W Memphis
American W Rice
American W SMU
American W Southern Mississippi
American W Tulane
American W Tulsa
American W Vanderbilt

Big 10 E Connecticut
Big 10 E Maryland
Big 10 E Michigan
Big 10 E Michigan State
Big 10 E Notre Dame
Big 10 E Ohio State
Big 10 E Penn State
Big 10 E Rutgers
Big 10 W Illinois
Big 10 W Indiana
Big 10 W Iowa
Big 10 W Minnesota
Big 10 W Nebraska
Big 10 W Northwestern
Big 10 W Purdue
Big 10 W Wisconsin

Big 12 E Alabama
Big 12 E Arkansas
Big 12 E Auburn
Big 12 E Louisiana State
Big 12 E Mississippi
Big 12 E Mississippi State
Big 12 E Missouri
Big 12 E Texas A&M
Big 12 W Baylor
Big 12 W Colorado State
Big 12 W Iowa State
Big 12 W Kansas
Big 12 W Kansas State
Big 12 W Oklahoma
Big 12 W Oklahoma State
Big 12 W Texas

i Air Force
i Army
i Navy

MAC E Buffalo
MAC E Kent
MAC E Liberty
MAC E Marshall
MAC E Massachusetts
MAC E Miami U.
MAC E Ohio
MAC E Western Kentucky
MAC W Akron
MAC W Ball State
MAC W Bowling Green
MAC W Central Michigan
MAC W Eastern Michigan
MAC W Northern Illinois
MAC W Toledo
MAC W Western Michigan

MWC E New Mexico
MWC E New Mexico State
MWC E North Texas
MWC E Texas State
MWC E Texas-San Antonio
MWC E Utah State
MWC E UTEP
MWC E Wyoming
MWC W Boise State
MWC W Cal-Davis
MWC W Fresno State
MWC W Hawaii
MWC W Nevada
MWC W San Diego State
MWC W San Jose State
MWC W UNLV

Pac 12 N Brigham Young
Pac 12 N California
Pac 12 N Oregon
Pac 12 N Oregon State
Pac 12 N Stanford
Pac 12 N Utah
Pac 12 N Washington
Pac 12 N Washington State
Pac 12 S Arizona
Pac 12 S Arizona State
Pac 12 S Colorado
Pac 12 S Houston
Pac 12 S TCU
Pac 12 S Texas Tech
Pac 12 S UCLA
Pac 12 S USC

USA E Appalachian State
USA E Charlotte
USA E Coastal Carolina
USA E Florida Atlantic
USA E Florida International
USA E Georgia Southern
USA E Georgia State
USA E Old Dominion
USA W Alabama Birmingham
USA W Arkansas State
USA W Louisiana Tech
USA W Louisiana-Lafayette
USA W Louisiana-Monroe
USA W Middle Tennessee
USA W South Alabama
USA W Troy State

ACC
Boston College, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Louisville, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Duke, NC State, North Carolina, Wake Forest
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami

Big 10
Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin
Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska

PAC
California, Stanford, UCLA, USC
Oregon, Oregon State Washington, Washington State
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State

SEC
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri
Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

American
Baylor, Houston, Navy, SMU, TCU, Tulane, Tulsa
UAB, Army, Memphis, ECU, Temple, UCF, USF

CUSA
Appalachian State, Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Liberty, Old Dominion
Arkansas State, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, North Texas, Rice, Southern Mississippi, UL-Lafayette, UL-Monroe

MWC
Air Force, Colorado State, Utah State, Wyoming
Fresno State, Hawaii, San Diego State, San Jose State
Boise State, BYU, Nevada, UNLV
New Mexico, Texas State, UTEP, UTSA

MAC
Akron, Kent State, Miami (OH), Ohio
Ball State, Bowling Green, Toledo, Western Kentucky
Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, NIU, Western Michigan
Buffalo, Marshall, Massachusetts, UConn

I had 1 conference too big, but heres my alignment:

BIG EAST

BC
UMASS
UCONN
BUFFALO
SYRACUSE
PENN ST
PITT
TEMPLE
RUTGERS
MARYLAND
WEST VIRGINIA
MARSHALL
LOUISVILLE
KENTUCKY
VIRGINIA
VA TECH

ACC

UNC
NC STATE
DUKE
WAKE FOREST
CLEMSON
SOUTH CAROLINA
GT
UGA
FLORIDA
FSU
THE U
ALABAMA
AUBURN
TENNESSEE
VANDERBILT
MEMPHIS

SWC

OLE MISS
MS STATE
LSU
TULANE
LA TECH
ARKANSAS
OKLAHOMA ST
OKLAHOMA
TULSA
TEXAS
TX TECH
TAMU
HOUSTON
BAYLOR
RICE
SMU
TCU

GREAT LAKES

KANSAS
K STATE
MISSOURI
IOWA
IOWA ST
MINNESOTA
WISCONSIN
ILLINOIS
NORTHWESTERN
NOTRE DAME
INDIANA
PURDUE
OHIO ST
CINCINNATI
MICHIGAN
MICHIGAN ST

MWC

NEBRASKA
COLORADO
CSU
NEW MEXICO
NM STATE
UTAH
UTAH ST
BYU
ARIZONA
ASU
BOISE ST
WYOMING
UNLV
NEVADA

PAC XII

U DUB
WASHINGTON ST
OREGON
OSU
CAL
STANFORD
USC
UCLA
HAWAII
FRESNO ST
SD STATE
SJ STATE

CUSA

CHARLOTTE
COASTAL CAROLINA
EAST CAROLINA
OLD DOMINION
LIBERTY
WKU
APPALACHIAN ST
FIU
FAU
USF
UCF
GA STATE
GA SOUTHERN

SBC

MTSU
UAB
SO ALABAMA
TROY
ULL
ULM
SO MISS
ARK STATE
UTSA
UTEP
TEX ST
NORTH TEXAS

Other than losing Buffalo, MAC stands pat

Region 1: Pacific
1. Washington
2. Washington St.
3. Oregon
4. Oregon St.
5. Stanford
6. California
7. UCLA
8. USC
9. San Diego St.
10. San Jose St.
11. Fresno St.
12. Hawaii
13. Nevada
14. UNLV
15. Boise St.
16. Utah

Region 2: Mountain
1. Arizona
2. Arizona St.
3. BYU
4. Utah St.
5. Colorado
6. Colorado St.
7. New Mexico
8. New Mexico St.
9. Wyoming
10. UTEP
11. Texas Tech
12. UTSA
13. Texas St.
14. Baylor
15. TCU
16. SMU

Region 3: Heartland
1. Texas
2. Texas A&M
3. Houston
4. Rice
5. North Texas
6. Oklahoma
7. Oklahoma St.
8. Tulsa
9. Nebraska
10. Kansas
11. Kansas St.
12. Arkansas
13. Arkansas St
14. Missouri
15. Iowa
16. Iowa St.

Region 4: Old South
1. LSU
2. La. Tech
3. Louisiana
4. La. Monroe
5. Tulane
6. S. Alabama
7. Troy
8. UAB
9. Alabama
10. Auburn
11. S. Miss
12. Ole’ Miss
13. Miss St.
14. Memphis
15. Vanderbilt
16. MTSU

Region 5: Sunshine
1. Miami
2. FAU
3. FIU
4. Florida St.
5. Florida
6. USF
7. UCF
8. Georgia
9. Ga. State
10. Ga. Tech
11. Ga. Southern
12. Clemson
13. South Carolina
14. Coastal Carolina
15. Tennessee
16. WKU

Region 6: Colonial
1. ECU
2. UNC
3. N.C. State
4. Duke
5. Wake Forest
6. App St.
7. Charlotte
8. ODU
9. Liberty
10. Virginia
11. Va. Tech
12. WVU
13. Marshall
14. Louisville
15. Kentucky
16. Cincinnati

Region 7: Great Lakes
1. Minnesota
2. Wisconsin
3. Illinois
4. Northwestern
5. No. Illinois
6. Purdue
7. Indiana
8. Ball St.
9. Bowling Green
10. Miami (OH)
11. Ohio
12. Ohio St.
13. C. Michigan
14. W. Michigan
15. Michigan St.
16. Michigan

Region 8: Northeast
1. Notre Dame
2. Boston College
3. Navy
4. Army
5. Air Force
6. Syracuse
7. UConn
8. UMass
9. Rutgers
10. Temple
11. Maryland
12. Penn St.
13. Pitt
14. Buffalo
15. Toledo
16. Akron


INDEPENDENTS:
Kent St.
E. Michigan

(04-22-2020 10:57 AM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  ACC
Boston College, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Louisville, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech, West Virginia
Duke, NC State, North Carolina, Wake Forest
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami

Big 10
Maryland, Penn State, Rutgers, Virginia
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State
Illinois, Northwestern, Purdue, Wisconsin
Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Nebraska

PAC
California, Stanford, UCLA, USC
Oregon, Oregon State Washington, Washington State
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Kansas State

SEC
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Missouri
Arkansas, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech

American
Baylor, Houston, Navy, SMU, TCU, Tulane, Tulsa
UAB, Army, Memphis, ECU, Temple, UCF, USF

CUSA
Appalachian State, Charlotte, FAU, FIU, Georgia State, Georgia Southern, Liberty, Old Dominion
Arkansas State, Louisiana Tech, Middle Tennessee, North Texas, Rice, Southern Mississippi, UL-Lafayette, UL-Monroe

MWC
Air Force, Colorado State, Utah State, Wyoming
Fresno State, Hawaii, San Diego State, San Jose State
Boise State, BYU, Nevada, UNLV
New Mexico, Texas State, UTEP, UTSA

MAC
Akron, Kent State, Miami (OH), Ohio
Ball State, Bowling Green, Toledo, Western Kentucky
Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, NIU, Western Michigan
Buffalo, Marshall, Massachusetts, UConn

Where is South Alabama and Troy?

Thought I posted this (maybe I put it on a different thread). A little different take-privates form own conference.

SEC
SEC E Alabama
SEC E Auburn
SEC E Florida
SEC E Georgia
SEC E Kentucky
SEC E South Carolina
SEC E Tennessee
SEC E EAST CAROLINA
SEC W Arkansas
SEC W Louisiana State
SEC W Mississippi
SEC W Mississippi State
SEC W Missouri
SEC W Texas A&M
SEC W KANSAS STATE
SEC W HOUSTON

PAC
Pac 12 E Colorado
Pac 12 E Utah
Pac 12 E BYU
Pac 12 E COLORADO STATE
Pac 12 E OKLAHOMA
Pac 12 E OKLAHOMA STATE
Pac 12 E TEXAS
Pac 12 E TEXAS TECH
Pac 12 W Arizona
Pac 12 W Arizona State
Pac 12 W California
Pac 12 W Oregon
Pac 12 W Oregon State
Pac 12 W UCLA
Pac 12 W Washington
Pac 12 W Washington State

Big 10 + 6
Big 10 E Indiana
Big 10 E Maryland
Big 10 E Michigan
Big 10 E Michigan State
Big 10 E Ohio State
Big 10 E Penn State
Big 10 E Purdue
Big 10 E Rutgers
Big 10 W Illinois
Big 10 W Iowa
Big 10 W Minnesota
Big 10 W Nebraska
Big 10 W Wisconsin
Big 10 W IOWA STATE
Big 10 W KANSAS
Big 10 W CINCINNATI

ACC
ACC E Clemson
ACC E North Carolina
ACC E North Carolina State
ACC E Virginia
ACC E CONNECTICUT
ACC E MASSACHUSETTS
ACC E TEMPLE
ACC E Virginia Tech
ACC W Florida State
ACC W Georgia Tech
ACC W Louisville
ACC W Pittsburg
ACC W CENTRAL FLORIDA
ACC W MEMPHIS
ACC W SOUTH FLORIDA
ACC W WEST VIRGINIA

American Magnolia
American Magnolia E BOSTON COLLEGE
American Magnolia E DUKE
American Magnolia E MIAMI (FL)
American Magnolia E NORTHWESTERN
American Magnolia E NOTRE DAME
American Magnolia E SYRACUSE
American Magnolia E VANDERBILT
American Magnolia E WAKE FOREST
American Magnolia W SMU
American Magnolia W Tulane
American Magnolia W Tulsa
American Magnolia W BAYLOR
American Magnolia W RICE
American Magnolia W STANFORD
American Magnolia W TCU
American Magnolia W USC

MWC E Air Force
MWC E New Mexico
MWC E Wyoming
MWC E NEW MEXICO STATE
MWC E NORTH TEXAS
MWC E TEXAS STATE
MWC E UTSA
MWC E UTEP
MWC W Boise State
MWC W Fresno State
MWC W Hawaii
MWC W Nevada
MWC W San Diego State
MWC W San Jose State
MWC W UNLV
MWC W Utah State

MAC
MAC E Buffalo
MAC E Kent
MAC E Miami U.
MAC E Ohio
MAC E LIBERTY
MAC E MARSHALL
MAC E MIDDLE TENNESSEE
MAC E WESTERN KENTUCKY
MAC W Akron
MAC W Ball State
MAC W Bowling Green
MAC W Central Michigan
MAC W Eastern Michigan
MAC W Northern Illinois
MAC W Toledo
MAC W Western Michigan

Sun Belt
Sun Belt E Appalachian State
Sun Belt E Coastal Carolina
Sun Belt E Georgia Southern
Sun Belt E Georgia State
Sun Belt E UNCC
Sun Belt E FAU
Sun Belt E FIU
Sun Belt E OLD DOMINION
Sun Belt W Arkansas State
Sun Belt W Louisiana-Lafayette
Sun Belt W Louisiana-Monroe
Sun Belt W South Alabama
Sun Belt W Troy State
Sun Belt W UAB
Sun Belt W LOUISIANA TECH
Sun Belt W SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI

Independent
i Army
i NAVY

ACC
North
Boston College
Syracuse
Rutgers
Maryland
Penn St
Pitt
West Virginia
Louisville
South
Virginia
Virginia Tech
Wake Forest
Duke
North Carolina
NC State
South Carolina
Clemson

B1G
East
Ohio St
Michigan
Michigan St
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Purdue
Indiana
Illinois
West
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Iowa St
Nebraska
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas St

SEC
East
Kentucky
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
Georgia
Georgia Tech
Florida
Florida St
Miami
West
Auburn
Alabama
Ole Miss
Mississippi St
Arkansas
LSU
Baylor
TCU

PAC
East
Colorado
Oklahoma
Oklahoma St
Texas
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Arizona
Arizona St
West
Washington
Wazzu
Oregon
Oregon St
California
Stanford
USC
UCLA

CUSA
North
Temple
Navy
Liberty
ODU
Charlotte
Appalachian St
ECU
CCU
South
GSU
GSU
Troy
UAB
UCF
USF
FAU
FIU

MAC
East
Army
Buffalo
Marshall
Cincinnati
Miami
Ohio
Akron
Kent St
West
Toledo
Bowling Green
EMU
CMU
WMU
NIU
Ball St
WKU

MWC
Mountain
UTEP
New Mexico
New Mexico St
Colorado St
Air Force
Wyoming
Utah
BYU
West
Utah St
Boise St
Nevada
UNLV
San Jose St
Fresno St
San Diego St
Hawai’i

SBELT
East
Memphis
MTSU
USA
Southern Miss
Tulane
Louisiana
Louisiana Tech
ULM
West
Arkansas St
Tulsa
SMU
UNT
Texas St
Houston
Rice
UTSA

Dropped: UConn, UMass

IWULT: I stipulated you can't demote schools. Otherwise, I love it.