(04-22-2020 11:38 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:23 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  The link I provided proves this wasn't a rumor. Even if it was a rumor, this board allows it. Maine has been going crazy because they have struggled to upgrade Alfond so their fans are going crazy. Hockey is their main sport and it is going down the tubes financially.

You can repeat your BS stipulations all you want because there is other info that says they are looking into it.

The link you provided was garbage. It lists every college with D-I, D-III and club hockey in the United States. It is unaffiliated with any school. It's looking to scam money out of kids who have no idea how to get recruited. It also helpfully lists every junior team in the United States as a "Junior College." I'm interested in the degree offered by the BCHL's Wenatchee Wild.

It also lists D-II hockey as a thing.

I'm excited for the new hockey programs at the other five schools listed in Tennessee: https://www.ncsasports.org/athletic-scho.../tennessee

That website means nothing.

So that's where Maine does it's recruiting now, further infuriating you?

DII mens hockey still exists in the backwater New England states.

APSU is listed as not having a hockey team, get APSU is still advertising. A college normally starts a club team before varsity.

This has zero to do with Maine. I'd love to see college hockey expand. It just is not going to happen. The money is not there. That website is not APSU advertising. That website is not affiliated with any colleges or universities. It lists the name of the school as "The Middle College at Austin Peay State University!" Would anyone at all affiliated with APSU athletics refer to the school like that???

(04-22-2020 12:36 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:38 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:23 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  The link I provided proves this wasn't a rumor. Even if it was a rumor, this board allows it. Maine has been going crazy because they have struggled to upgrade Alfond so their fans are going crazy. Hockey is their main sport and it is going down the tubes financially.

You can repeat your BS stipulations all you want because there is other info that says they are looking into it.

The link you provided was garbage. It lists every college with D-I, D-III and club hockey in the United States. It is unaffiliated with any school. It's looking to scam money out of kids who have no idea how to get recruited. It also helpfully lists every junior team in the United States as a "Junior College." I'm interested in the degree offered by the BCHL's Wenatchee Wild.

It also lists D-II hockey as a thing.

I'm excited for the new hockey programs at the other five schools listed in Tennessee: https://www.ncsasports.org/athletic-scho.../tennessee

That website means nothing.

So that's where Maine does it's recruiting now, further infuriating you?

DII mens hockey still exists in the backwater New England states.

APSU is listed as not having a hockey team, get APSU is still advertising. A college normally starts a club team before varsity.

This has zero to do with Maine. I'd love to see college hockey expand. It just is not going to happen. The money is not there. That website is not APSU advertising. That website is not affiliated with any colleges or universities. It lists the name of the school as "The Middle College at Austin Peay State University!" Would anyone at all affiliated with APSU athletics refer to the school like that???

It has expanded, but you're just too blind to see it. UConn, Bentley,AIC, and Sacred Heart have expanded their programs in major ways, but one needs their eyes open.

(04-22-2020 11:52 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Unrelated Question - when did you start following Maine Hockey?

My family has had season tickets since the first season it actually cost money to attend games.

And NoDak- A school that already had hockey does not count as "adding hockey." There have been two additions to D-I hockey in 20 years: Penn State and Arizona State. Two Power 5 schools who still needed huge donations to get underway.

The prior school to not have varsity hockey and then decide to start a varsity D-1 team (not be forced by the NCAA from D-3 to D-1) was Omaha in 1997.

This is not a thing that happens without a money fairy appearing in the sky. Hence my request of you, if you are posting about hockey expansion, please state where the money fairy is. These non-P5 schools don't have any money as it is, and even the P5 schools with money need massive initial investments.

(04-22-2020 12:36 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:38 AM)NoDak Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:23 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  The link I provided proves this wasn't a rumor. Even if it was a rumor, this board allows it. Maine has been going crazy because they have struggled to upgrade Alfond so their fans are going crazy. Hockey is their main sport and it is going down the tubes financially.

You can repeat your BS stipulations all you want because there is other info that says they are looking into it.

The link you provided was garbage. It lists every college with D-I, D-III and club hockey in the United States. It is unaffiliated with any school. It's looking to scam money out of kids who have no idea how to get recruited. It also helpfully lists every junior team in the United States as a "Junior College." I'm interested in the degree offered by the BCHL's Wenatchee Wild.

It also lists D-II hockey as a thing.

I'm excited for the new hockey programs at the other five schools listed in Tennessee: https://www.ncsasports.org/athletic-scho.../tennessee

That website means nothing.

So that's where Maine does it's recruiting now, further infuriating you?

DII mens hockey still exists in the backwater New England states.

APSU is listed as not having a hockey team, get APSU is still advertising. A college normally starts a club team before varsity.

This has zero to do with Maine. I'd love to see college hockey expand. It just is not going to happen. The money is not there. That website is not APSU advertising. That website is not affiliated with any colleges or universities. It lists the name of the school as "The Middle College at Austin Peay State University!" Would anyone at all affiliated with APSU athletics refer to the school like that???

You have been going on and on about how it means nothing, but somehow APSU is posting for players for the first time and were supposed to believe you that it means nothing? Holes have been shown in all your ideas but you still hold to your nonsense.

(04-22-2020 12:43 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:52 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Unrelated Question - when did you start following Maine Hockey?

My family has had season tickets since the first season it actually cost money to attend games.

Maine Hockey benefited from how expensive hockey is to maintain :)

NAU had DI hockey in the early 80's. Then the rink broke and the cost to fix was beyond the athletic department's means. Maine ended up getting one of NAU's best players as a transfer after that - Bob Beers, who helped Maine gain relevance, before a good NHL career (one of two NAU players who had long NHL careers, the other was Greg Adams)

(04-22-2020 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:52 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:23 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  The link I provided proves this wasn't a rumor. Even if it was a rumor, this board allows it. Maine has been going crazy because they have struggled to upgrade Alfond so their fans are going crazy. Hockey is their main sport and it is going down the tubes financially.

You can repeat your BS stipulations all you want because there is other info that says they are looking into it.

The link you provided was garbage. It lists every college with D-I, D-III and club hockey in the United States. It is unaffiliated with any school. It's looking to scam money out of kids who have no idea how to get recruited. It also helpfully lists every junior team in the United States as a "Junior College." I'm interested in the degree offered by the BCHL's Wenatchee Wild.

It also lists D-II hockey as a thing.

I'm excited for the new hockey programs at the other five schools listed in Tennessee: https://www.ncsasports.org/athletic-scho.../tennessee

That website means nothing.

Unrelated Question - when did you start following Maine Hockey?

Maine hockey used to be a power. Games against Maine were a big deal, but no longer.

Just in the last 10 years, there has been major arena upgrades by AHA teams.

UConn took the sport seriously and went to Hockey East instead of nearly club level.

Bently U built a new arena costing $s.

Sacred Heart is building an on expensive new arena. Sacred Heart, UConn, Quinnipiac and Yale are now the Big Four in the state.

AIC now rents the big Springfield Arena.

Those four teams are essentially DI adds as the AHA had some very weak teams.

And you forgot about RIT moving up from D3, making a Frozen 4, and using that as the impetus to build a new arena with double the capacity.

(04-22-2020 12:51 PM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 12:43 PM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:52 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  Unrelated Question - when did you start following Maine Hockey?

My family has had season tickets since the first season it actually cost money to attend games.

Maine Hockey benefited from how expensive hockey is to maintain :)

NAU had DI hockey in the early 80's. Then the rink broke and the cost to fix was beyond the athletic department's means. Maine ended up getting one of NAU's best players as a transfer after that - Bob Beers, who helped Maine gain relevance, before a good NHL career (one of two NAU players who had long NHL careers, the other was Greg Adams)

Maine in Hockey East used to have an interlocking schedule with the WCHA and UND, which were the two leagues that wanted to be powerful. UND and Maine played each other every year then.

(04-22-2020 03:13 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 12:01 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:52 AM)dbackjon Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:23 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  

(04-22-2020 11:08 AM)NoDak Wrote:  The link I provided proves this wasn't a rumor. Even if it was a rumor, this board allows it. Maine has been going crazy because they have struggled to upgrade Alfond so their fans are going crazy. Hockey is their main sport and it is going down the tubes financially.

You can repeat your BS stipulations all you want because there is other info that says they are looking into it.

The link you provided was garbage. It lists every college with D-I, D-III and club hockey in the United States. It is unaffiliated with any school. It's looking to scam money out of kids who have no idea how to get recruited. It also helpfully lists every junior team in the United States as a "Junior College." I'm interested in the degree offered by the BCHL's Wenatchee Wild.

It also lists D-II hockey as a thing.

I'm excited for the new hockey programs at the other five schools listed in Tennessee: https://www.ncsasports.org/athletic-scho.../tennessee

That website means nothing.

Unrelated Question - when did you start following Maine Hockey?

Maine hockey used to be a power. Games against Maine were a big deal, but no longer.

Just in the last 10 years, there has been major arena upgrades by AHA teams.

UConn took the sport seriously and went to Hockey East instead of nearly club level.

Bently U built a new arena costing $s.

Sacred Heart is building an on expensive new arena. Sacred Heart, UConn, Quinnipiac and Yale are now the Big Four in the state.

AIC now rents the big Springfield Arena.

Those four teams are essentially DI adds as the AHA had some very weak teams.

And you forgot about RIT moving up from D3, making a Frozen 4, and using that as the impetus to build a new arena with double the capacity.

Good point. Union also moved up and won a championship or two . But likely more than 20 years .

Also forgot Holy Cross. It was #1 Gophers against #16 Holy Cross at the Ralph. Holy Cross won in OT and the Ralph has been ringing ever sInce. Rumor has been Holy Cross gets to be the 12 HE school . The are already the @2 women's tram

(04-21-2020 07:12 PM)Mav Wrote:  

(04-20-2020 09:45 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Frozen Peays? Or Frozen Peay?

Full of country goodness and Austin Peayness.

Oh, what luck; there's a French fry stuck in my beard!

It'll be a club team. Tennessee, Vandy, MTSU all have ACHA D3 club hockey teams. Even in Kentucky, UK, UofL, and EKU have ACHA D2 club teams. None have NCAA hockey teams. APSU adding a club team makes sense.

(04-23-2020 08:20 AM)WKUApollo Wrote:  It'll be a club team. Tennessee, Vandy, MTSU all have ACHA D3 club hockey teams. Even in Kentucky, UK, UofL, and EKU have ACHA D2 club teams. None have NCAA hockey teams. APSU adding a club team makes sense.

As I said, a club team is needed before anything higher is started. It would be two-three years before any varsity team. A club team is inevitable and it would play in the practice rink initially.

Austin. Peay. Did. Not. Create. That. Website. Or. The. Posting.

That website automatically culls every single college in the United States and posts it. The schools have absolutely nothing to do with it.

And I don't care about schools that already had varsity hockey investing in their programs. That isn't the major financial hurdle. It's the start up. Putting more money in later is completely different.

No school is starting ice hockey without at least $30M-$40M to do so, if they have an available rink. You haven't answered my question, does Austin Peay have $30-$40M to spend on this?

(04-23-2020 10:40 AM)ccd494 Wrote:  Austin. Peay. Did. Not. Create. That. Website. Or. The. Posting.

That website automatically culls every single college in the United States and posts it. The schools have absolutely nothing to do with it.

And I don't care about schools that already had varsity hockey investing in their programs. That isn't the major financial hurdle. It's the start up. Putting more money in later is completely different.

No school is starting ice hockey without at least $30M-$40M to do so, if they have an available rink. You haven't answered my question, does Austin Peay have $30-$40M to spend on this?

So somehow it is well known that APSU wants a team and players? APSU doesn't even have a surface yet but that is known. Have said a club team is necessary before varsity, but that is conveniently ignored. An arena without ice is much cheaper to build, but Montgomery County takes the more expensive option.

You are so stuck on the money, as if it is impossible in greater Nashville. There are so many cranes in that area that it's just a hobby of there's. If Minn St - Moorhead had given a number of $15 miln just for men's hockey, instead of $30 mil both genders, would have accepted that? If Moorhead St had said they would pay half scholarships and have a lesser team, would you have accepted that $8 million would work? Montgomery County will pay for the arena but they have mostly pathetic attendance relying on most APSU basketball,. The best way to get attendance up is to create more entertain shows near Nashville for tourists and hockey Events for Nashvilleans. But you would ever admit things as based on logic.

The NHL wants their AHL teams closer so a moveup player can get to a home game quicker. Milwaukee is Nashville's AHL currently. Clarksville building a large rink could allow the AHL team to move there, or possibly the ECHL team instead.

https://myez999.com/news/030030-road-les...ds-closer/

A minor league rink needs several teams to fill dates:. like the AHL, mbb, hockey club, APSU varsity hockey, concerts, etc. The club hockey team could likely only afford the practice rink.

Since several nearby cities seem to be building for college hockey, High Point, Liberty, St Louis, Huntsville, Lynchburg, etc, one would reasonably expect they would work together.