(05-02-2020 12:28 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 08:10 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  To keep this thread going during the doldrums of spring/summer, I will "study" a Big East campus each week and post some thoughts. I will geographically move from east and move west. So the Providence campus should be my first "assessment." We've touched on the UConn campus but I might return with some final takes.

Enjoy your day, gents, and I shall be touch.

Hi Bill,
I can touch on the general PC area as you make your way around Google maps.

PC has a relatively small campus, pretty much square-shaped. It's in a working-class residential area on the north side of the city, like a couple of miles from downtown Providence. To what i'm gonna call the south and west are single family houses; to the east are typical 3 story tenement houses; to the north is a mix.

Generally, the city of Providence has a downtown, and then a series of roads heading out like spokes on a bicycle wheel. Two spokes border the campus-- Admiral Street to the north and Eaton Street to the south. But parallel and just to the south of Eaton, one block, is a high-traffic 2 lane road-- Route 44, aka Smith Street-- that is packed at rush hour heading to NW suburb towns of North Providence, Johnston, and Smithfield.

On the north side is River Ave, just a cut-across road. To the east waa Huxley Ave (dog mascot named after it). Huxley was closed to traffic just in the past couple of years.

Historically, the area if heavy Irish, Italuan, and Armenian. The There is no real solid "main street" for PC... a couple if random bars are in the area, on Admiral (in Eagle Park), and on Smith. There's an excellent Italian bakery on Smith (LaSalle Bakery), amd another one named Zaccagnini's which is not far from a supermarket plaza. Mainly, the few restaurants in this area are used by locals as much as PC students. There are no chain restaurants in the general area. There's a Newport Creamery, the statewide burger-ice cream shop, on Smith Street.

The more popular college hangout area is on Thayer Street at the Brown campus, which is on the "East Side" of the city, up the hill from downtown. When on Thayer Street, i do see Friar students hanging out, along with Brown and RISD students. it's too far to walk from PC to Brown, with no good sidewalks, but i guess they drive. Sometimes after PC games, i take the kuds to eat on Thayer, and often see Friar players sitting in the next booth. After the Marquette win, Luwane Pipkins was with us at Shake Shack, and other Friars were at a smoothie bar.

The PC vampus entrance is ob the corner of River and Eaton, with the original building and current admun right there in Harkley Hall. The track is just to its north. The north side of campus also has, going clockwise, the new Ruane Center for PC hoops, Student Union and bookstore known as the Slavin Center, the lacrosse field, the gorgeous and renovated 3500 seat on-campus hockey rink (Schneider Arena) which is on the corner of Admiral and Huxley, the new soccer field and softball field (site of former baseball field). To the south side of campus are dorms, classrooms, the library, and that important academic stuff. There's a small chapel on campus, but the area church is really St Pius, on the south side of Eaton Street.

Ok, that's a quick rundown to help get you going. Safe area. As kids there were lemonade shops (Google up Mr Lemon on Hawkins Street just to the northeast), my dentist, drug store, supermarket, bakeries like i mentioned. My grandmother was born in a tenement on Hawkins in the mill area of Wanskuck. Our Italian church was St Anne's, also on Hawkins-- Google that, it loooks like something in Siena.

Also, PC gave kids of immigrants a chance for a college education, like some in my family the generation before me. Kids could live at home at go to school at PC. it's very well-respected in the community-- it's not some insular heavy-handed scholl that bullies the locals. I didnt even go there (i'm a RISD alum), but i'm a huge fan of the school going back to my childhood in the 70's.

Also, PC played on campus thru 1972. Then the Friars moved into the Dunk (back then, the Providence Civic Center), which fit 12k, the second largest arena in New England at the time, behind only the Boston Garden. Major national program, lot of NBA-ers, one of the few colleges in a major downtown arena (another groundbreaking PC idea).

Ok, enjoy. I can try to answer any other questions you have.

Don't forget Dels Lemonade and the Yuck er I mean Silver Truck!

ive been to many of the BE campuses in some capacity

Driven past exits for Xavier and Butler. Driven by Seton Hall and Marquette but didn't set foot on campus. Others I saw in the 80s I don't remember a lot about them and im sure they changed since then (Georgetown, Villanova,UConn St Johns)
Few years ago took the train past Depaul and walked by/through campus after a Cubs came and some bar hopping.
I liked Creightons campus. not large but seems to be room nearby for them to expand if they have $ '
Even been to some from the old BE most recently Syracuse.(a few times)
Including Louisville, ND and BC (of course) been there several times
Drive by Rutgers

they were all nice IMO. Each offering something different

not that anyone asked but ive also been to Iowa St, Auburn, Ga Tech, Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, PSU, Utah, BYU, Montana St, Brown, Princeton, Cornell, Dartmouth, URI to name a few

I do want to go to each BE campus for a game. Hard to coordinate at this time with family responsibilities. In time though!

(07-01-2020 08:38 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  

(05-02-2020 12:28 PM)billyjack Wrote:  

(05-01-2020 08:10 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  To keep this thread going during the doldrums of spring/summer, I will "study" a Big East campus each week and post some thoughts. I will geographically move from east and move west. So the Providence campus should be my first "assessment." We've touched on the UConn campus but I might return with some final takes.

Enjoy your day, gents, and I shall be touch.

Hi Bill,
I can touch on the general PC area as you make your way around Google maps.

PC has a relatively small campus, pretty much square-shaped. It's in a working-class residential area on the north side of the city, like a couple of miles from downtown Providence. To what i'm gonna call the south and west are single family houses; to the east are typical 3 story tenement houses; to the north is a mix.

Generally, the city of Providence has a downtown, and then a series of roads heading out like spokes on a bicycle wheel. Two spokes border the campus-- Admiral Street to the north and Eaton Street to the south. But parallel and just to the south of Eaton, one block, is a high-traffic 2 lane road-- Route 44, aka Smith Street-- that is packed at rush hour heading to NW suburb towns of North Providence, Johnston, and Smithfield.

On the north side is River Ave, just a cut-across road. To the east waa Huxley Ave (dog mascot named after it). Huxley was closed to traffic just in the past couple of years.

Historically, the area if heavy Irish, Italuan, and Armenian. The There is no real solid "main street" for PC... a couple if random bars are in the area, on Admiral (in Eagle Park), and on Smith. There's an excellent Italian bakery on Smith (LaSalle Bakery), amd another one named Zaccagnini's which is not far from a supermarket plaza. Mainly, the few restaurants in this area are used by locals as much as PC students. There are no chain restaurants in the general area. There's a Newport Creamery, the statewide burger-ice cream shop, on Smith Street.

The more popular college hangout area is on Thayer Street at the Brown campus, which is on the "East Side" of the city, up the hill from downtown. When on Thayer Street, i do see Friar students hanging out, along with Brown and RISD students. it's too far to walk from PC to Brown, with no good sidewalks, but i guess they drive. Sometimes after PC games, i take the kuds to eat on Thayer, and often see Friar players sitting in the next booth. After the Marquette win, Luwane Pipkins was with us at Shake Shack, and other Friars were at a smoothie bar.

The PC vampus entrance is ob the corner of River and Eaton, with the original building and current admun right there in Harkley Hall. The track is just to its north. The north side of campus also has, going clockwise, the new Ruane Center for PC hoops, Student Union and bookstore known as the Slavin Center, the lacrosse field, the gorgeous and renovated 3500 seat on-campus hockey rink (Schneider Arena) which is on the corner of Admiral and Huxley, the new soccer field and softball field (site of former baseball field). To the south side of campus are dorms, classrooms, the library, and that important academic stuff. There's a small chapel on campus, but the area church is really St Pius, on the south side of Eaton Street.

Ok, that's a quick rundown to help get you going. Safe area. As kids there were lemonade shops (Google up Mr Lemon on Hawkins Street just to the northeast), my dentist, drug store, supermarket, bakeries like i mentioned. My grandmother was born in a tenement on Hawkins in the mill area of Wanskuck. Our Italian church was St Anne's, also on Hawkins-- Google that, it loooks like something in Siena.

Also, PC gave kids of immigrants a chance for a college education, like some in my family the generation before me. Kids could live at home at go to school at PC. it's very well-respected in the community-- it's not some insular heavy-handed scholl that bullies the locals. I didnt even go there (i'm a RISD alum), but i'm a huge fan of the school going back to my childhood in the 70's.

Also, PC played on campus thru 1972. Then the Friars moved into the Dunk (back then, the Providence Civic Center), which fit 12k, the second largest arena in New England at the time, behind only the Boston Garden. Major national program, lot of NBA-ers, one of the few colleges in a major downtown arena (another groundbreaking PC idea).

Ok, enjoy. I can try to answer any other questions you have.

Don't forget Dels Lemonade and the Yuck er I mean Silver Truck!

I certainly won't. I actually drove a Del's truck briefly one summer when I was in grad school at Brown in the 70's.

(07-01-2020 09:44 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  ive been to many of the BE campuses in some capacity

Driven past exits for Xavier and Butler. Driven by Seton Hall and Marquette but didn't set foot on campus. Others I saw in the 80s I don't remember a lot about them and im sure they changed since then (Georgetown, Villanova,UConn St Johns)
Few years ago took the train past Depaul and walked by/through campus after a Cubs came and some bar hopping.
I liked Creightons campus. not large but seems to be room nearby for them to expand if they have $ '
Even been to some from the old BE most recently Syracuse.(a few times)
Including Louisville, ND and BC (of course) been there several times
Drive by Rutgers

they were all nice IMO. Each offering something different

not that anyone asked but ive also been to Iowa St, Auburn, Ga Tech, Nebraska, Minnesota, Indiana, PSU, Utah, BYU, Montana St, Brown, Princeton, Cornell, Dartmouth, URI to name a few

I do want to go to each BE campus for a game. Hard to coordinate at this time with family responsibilities. In time though!

A strong list of campuses you have visited. I might post mine soon. I've seen a decent number.

I am now "studying" the Marquette University campus in Milwaukee via Google Maps. As noted, and regarding Big East campuses, I am geographically moving from east to west. We've touched on the Providence, Connecticut, St. John’s, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, Butler and DePaul campuses. Now we look at Marquette.

I’ve visited Milwaukee only once, which is sad given I lived in Chicago for 3.5 years. The one visit was strong and I recall I saw the Marquette campus while my friend and I drove on Interstate 43 and/or 94. And that might be the one thing that struck me. Two of the MU campus sides “address” an interstate — not an ideal model. Otherwise, and based on what I’m seeing on Google Maps, the campus looks strong.

The Church of the Gesu, the St. Joan of Arc Chapel, Cramer Hall and Catherine Reed Cudahy Hall are tremendous buildings. The Al McGuire Center seems very big time.

Normally, I’m not a fan of a “main road” cutting through a college campus. But I like the look and feel of West Wisconsin Avenue. The campus buildings on either side of the street strike a commanding presence. Very nice.

What seemingly is the Lulamier Language Hall — a modernist structure located to the left of the MU Performing Arts building — ranks among the more insane looking college campus structures I’ve ever seen. It offers a waffle-esque exterior design. See attachment link below.

Of note, and from what I can determine: the main campus offers no football/soccer stadium or softball/baseball field.




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Love Milwaukee. Great city, great entertainment, great food/restaurants. Lalumiere is a hideous building, but also a landmark (to my knowledge) so the thing is never coming down. Had many freshmen lecture hall courses there, as well as all of my Latin/Spanish classes. Johnston is a beautiful building. Fiserv is an amazing arena. Was looking forward to a Bucks game there this Spring, alas that didn't happen.

Our (relatively) new President is an engineer and is building new projects like crazy. We have got new dorms created last year (after former President, Fr. Wild - which he refused naming rights for). We just build the new Athletic Performance Research Facility. We just tore down McCormick (most popular and well-known dorm) last year, and have plans for many new buildings and structures in the coming years. Below is the full project for those interested:

https://www.marquette.edu/strategic-plan...ermark.pdf

(07-06-2020 12:19 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote:  Love Milwaukee. Great city, great entertainment, great food/restaurants. Lalumiere is a hideous building, but also a landmark (to my knowledge) so the thing is never coming down. Had many freshmen lecture hall courses there, as well as all of my Latin/Spanish classes. Johnston is a beautiful building. Fiserv is an amazing arena. Was looking forward to a Bucks game there this Spring, alas that didn't happen.

Our (relatively) new President is an engineer and is building new projects like crazy. We have got new dorms created last year (after former President, Fr. Wild - which he refused naming rights for). We just build the new Athletic Performance Research Facility. We just tore down McCormick (most popular and well-known dorm) last year, and have plans for many new buildings and structures in the coming years. Below is the full project for those interested:

https://www.marquette.edu/strategic-plan...ermark.pdf

The master plan looks impressive. One section notes both the ages and conditions of the buildings on the MU campus.

Fiserv must rank among the nation's more eye-catching arenas in terms of exterior design. And I see the modernist Goodcity Brewing Co. building next to it. Nice. The general area is called Westown. Looks cool.

Google Maps seemingly show McCormick being demolished. Was it called the "Beercan Dorm"?

Milwaukee offers lots of beautiful historic buildings. I wish we had more of that in Nashville. We razed countless blocks of such structures in the 1950s-1980s. Our Midtown and SoBro districts offered a sea of grand buildings at one time ... most are now gone. Milwaukee kept its dignified buildings and, as such, the city offers lots of charm and character. I also like the way Milwaukee interacts with a river and a lake (ala Chicago).

I am now "studying" the Creighton University campus in Omaha via Google Maps. As noted, and regarding Big East campuses, I am geographically moving from east to west. We've touched on the Providence, Connecticut, St. John’s, Seton Hall, Villanova, Georgetown, Xavier, Butler, DePaul and Marquette campuses. Now we conclude the effort with a look at Creighton.

I've never visited Omaha. A good friend did recently and was impressed with the overall vibe of the city.

As to the CU campus, it is (like that of Marquette) bordered on two sides by freeways. Since I have not seen, I don't know how negatively (if at all) this impacts the campus, particularly related to pedestrian connectivity. On this theme, two major streets — N. 24th St. and N. 20th St. — cut through the campus. On this theme, the campus is very "gridded" related to the orientation of the streets and buildings. Very orderly and consistent in spacing.

St. John's Catholic Parish Church looks beautiful.

Of note, the university's baseball and softball fields are located in the heart of the campus. Not sure I would find that orientation appealing were I to see in person.

Looking on the map, I see CU has schools of medicine, law, business and dentistry. Impressive.

Much of the surface parking is positioned on the north side of the campus. In fact, I don't see any parking garages of three floors or more. I do see two parking structures of two levels. Seems the bulk of the parking is via surface lots.

I also don't see a "strip" with bars, cafes, restaurants, etc., but downtown Omaha is located very nearby. Looks as if the intersection of Cuming and 14th might be the main commercial area servicing the campus, as there are some restaurants.

I'm trying to determine the tallest structure located on a Big East campus. It seemingly is Marquette's Straz Tower, a residential buildings standing 18 stories and 230 feet and completed in 1954.

Saint Thomas of Villanova Church at Villanova University (a gothic revival structure) offers two steeples reaching about 137 feet tall each.

The University Center in Chicago is owned by a nonprofit that includes DePaul, Roosevelt (my alma mater) and Columbia College. It stands 18 stories and about 200 feet but it is not located on the DePaul main campus and is not directly owned by DePaul.

Any that I'm missing?

We now take a look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. My goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

First, and moving from East to West, Providence College:

Albertus Magnus Hall. Named to honor Saint Albertus Magnus, a medieval scholar and philosopher.

Stonelaw Avenue. A residential street located near the campus. Would that my legal name were Bill Stonelaw.

We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we started with Providence College. We now have the University of Connecticut:

Lester E. Shippee Residence Hall

Horsebarn Hill Road

Edwina Whitney Residence Hall

Weston A. Bousfield Psychology Building

Harry A. Gampel Pavilion

We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence and UConn. Next up, St. John's University in Queens:

* Utopia Parkway

* Sun Yat Sen Memorial Hall (If I were Asian, this might sound bland. To me, it's ear catching.)

* Taffner Field House (old school)

* The T-intersection of 81st Avenue and 170th Street (It simply has a "ring" to it.)

* The Great Lawn

We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn and St. John's. Up next is Seton Hall University in South Orange, N.J.

* Richie Regan Recreation and Athletic Center (nice alliteration)

* Farinella Gate

* Galleon Lawn

* Tuxedo Parkway

We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn, St. John's and Seton Hall. Up next is Villanova University near Philadelphia.

* The Exchange (a cafeteria)

* Barley Cone Lane

* Black Friar Road

* Farley Hall (sound likes a stand-up comic)

* Picotte Hall at Dundale

We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova. Up next is Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

* South Gatehouse

* Red Square

* Pedro Arupe, S.J. Hall

* Glover Archbold Trail

* Leo J. O'Donovan Dining Hall

(08-30-2020 10:10 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova. Up next is Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

* South Gatehouse

* Red Square

* Pedro Arupe, S.J. Hall

* Glover Archbold Trail

* Leo J. O'Donovan Dining Hall

I used to live right up the street from G'town. Is that trail you mention on campus, or does it run through Glover Archbold Park?

(08-31-2020 05:37 AM)X-man Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 10:10 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova. Up next is Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

* South Gatehouse

* Red Square

* Pedro Arupe, S.J. Hall

* Glover Archbold Trail

* Leo J. O'Donovan Dining Hall

I used to live right up the street from G'town. Is that trail you mention on campus, or does it run through Glover Archbold Park?

Through the park from what I can determine. You must have had a very nice living experience.

(09-02-2020 08:22 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 05:37 AM)X-man Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 10:10 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova. Up next is Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

* South Gatehouse

* Red Square

* Pedro Arupe, S.J. Hall

* Glover Archbold Trail

* Leo J. O'Donovan Dining Hall

I used to live right up the street from G'town. Is that trail you mention on campus, or does it run through Glover Archbold Park?

Through the park from what I can determine. You must have had a very nice living experience.

I did. My neighborhood was called Glover Park, and was full of G'town coeds. And, as it turned out, I ended up marrying the girl next door (adjoining rowhouse), and we just had our 42nd anniversary together so it seems to have worked out.

(09-03-2020 06:13 AM)X-man Wrote:  

(09-02-2020 08:22 PM)bill dazzle Wrote:  

(08-31-2020 05:37 AM)X-man Wrote:  

(08-30-2020 10:10 AM)bill dazzle Wrote:  We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn, St. John's, Seton Hall and Villanova. Up next is Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.

* South Gatehouse

* Red Square

* Pedro Arupe, S.J. Hall

* Glover Archbold Trail

* Leo J. O'Donovan Dining Hall

I used to live right up the street from G'town. Is that trail you mention on campus, or does it run through Glover Archbold Park?

Through the park from what I can determine. You must have had a very nice living experience.

I did. My neighborhood was called Glover Park, and was full of G'town coeds. And, as it turned out, I ended up marrying the girl next door (adjoining rowhouse), and we just had our 42nd anniversary together so it seems to have worked out.

That is wonderful to hear X-man. You must have had a very positive experience living in D.C.

We continue our look at some distinctively named buildings, lawns/greens, streets, etc., found on or near Big East campuses. As noted previously, my goal is to find a minimum of two and to post regarding one school per week.

Moving from East to West, we have touched on Providence, UConn, St. John's, Seton Hall, Villanova and Georgetown. Next up is Xavier University in the great city of Cincinnati (and, yes, the Queen City is one of my favorites).

* Victory Parkway

* A.B. Cohen Center (or the ABC Center)

* D'artagnan the Muskateer Statue

* Alter Hall