Quote:Justin Amash discussing 'potential campaign' for president and will make decision 'soon'

Justin Amash, a former Republican-turned independent congressman from Michigan, said Wednesday that he stopped actively campaigning for his House seat in mid-February as he has been considering running for president as a libertarian.

"He has been discussing the potential campaign with his family, his friends, his team, and others, and a decision can be expected soon," Amash's campaign said in a statement.
His potential entry into the race comes after more than a year of refusing to rule out such a possibility.
If he does run, Amash would seek the Libertarian Party's nomination at their convention in Austin, Texas, which is currently set for the end of May. In 2016, Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson, a former governor of New Mexico, was on the ballot in every state and won a little over 3% of the national vote.

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it's curious that this news item hasn't made it to the spin room yet. or, maybe it's not curious at all.

so, here's the potential; the libertarians/Libertarians siphon off enough votes from DJT in swing states to bring us President Joe Biden.

here is why that is horrifying -- beyond all of the obvious reasons.

if you get your 401K plan hijacked (comprehensive retirement reform) in 2020 like you got your health insurance (comprehensive health care reform) hijacked in 2008, we all need to look deeply into the cause of our misfortune. there is a connecting common and thread.

also, if you're interested in the benefits of multi-party democracy, you needn't look any further than the chaos that has been israeli electoral politics for the past 3 years.

Amash is a cringelord that would probably siphon off more votes from biden. Professional, suburban types that refuse to suspend their disbelief that biden isn’t completely gone mentally, but refuse to vote for the orange man.

The way I see it, if Trump loses to a guy that is obviously suffering with dementia, this country deserves what it has coming. I’m honestly not even sweating it.

(04-17-2020 10:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Amash is a cringelord, and would probably siphon off more votes from biden. Professional, suburban types that refuse to suspend their disbelief that biden isn’t completely gone mentally, but refuse to vote for the orange man.

curious conclusion, given that republicans (allegedly) and libertarians compete for the small government vote.

now, agreed that DJT has skewed conventional party affiliations a bit (well, much more than a bit, actually), but I'm not sure how those professional suburban types don't reckon that the (formerly) robust economy benefited them.

interesting and thoughtful reply.

(04-17-2020 10:19 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

Quote:Justin Amash discussing 'potential campaign' for president and will make decision 'soon'

Justin Amash, a former Republican-turned independent congressman from Michigan, said Wednesday that he stopped actively campaigning for his House seat in mid-February as he has been considering running for president as a libertarian.

"He has been discussing the potential campaign with his family, his friends, his team, and others, and a decision can be expected soon," Amash's campaign said in a statement.
His potential entry into the race comes after more than a year of refusing to rule out such a possibility.
If he does run, Amash would seek the Libertarian Party's nomination at their convention in Austin, Texas, which is currently set for the end of May. In 2016, Libertarian presidential nominee Gary Johnson, a former governor of New Mexico, was on the ballot in every state and won a little over 3% of the national vote.

linky

it's curious that this news item hasn't made it to the spin room yet. or, maybe it's not curious at all.

so, here's the potential; the libertarians/Libertarians siphon off enough votes from DJT in swing states to bring us President Joe Biden.

here is why that is horrifying -- beyond all of the obvious reasons.

if you get your 401K plan hijacked (comprehensive retirement reform) in 2020 like you got your health insurance (comprehensive health care reform) hijacked in 2008, we all need to look deeply into the cause of our misfortune. there is a connecting common and thread.

also, if you're interested in the benefits of multi-party democracy, you needn't look any further than the chaos that has been israeli electoral politics for the past 3 years.

https://csnbbs.com/thread-898095-post-16...id16779982

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well, wait a minute. that thread got zero traffic as well. so, then, the question becomes, "why is that?"

(04-17-2020 10:50 PM)EagleX Wrote:  well, wait a minute. that thread got zero traffic as well. so, then, the question becomes, "why is that?"

Nobody cares. He's a loser and is going to take away a lot of disgruntled Biden voters.

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(04-18-2020 12:03 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 10:50 PM)EagleX Wrote:  well, wait a minute. that thread got zero traffic as well. so, then, the question becomes, "why is that?"

Nobody cares. He's a loser and is going to take away a lot of disgruntled Biden voters.

well, then, my question still needs an answer;

are libertarians/Libertarians aware of the electoral havoc that they are surely to provoke with an Amash candidate?

or, perhaps, chaos is the whole point.

(04-18-2020 01:36 AM)EagleX Wrote:  are libertarians/Libertarians aware of the electoral havoc that they are surely to provoke with an Amash candidate?

Traditionally, I’d agree that the Libertarians have probably taken more votes out of the GOP’s pile, than they’ve taken from the Democrats’ pile. And in state/local elections, I’d agree that’s probably true, even now. However, I think Trump is an exception to that rule — both in 2016 and in 2020.

I think Gary Johnson took more votes from Hillary! than from Trump, about on a 60/40 basis, if I had to guess. And Justin Amash — much as I’ve admired and agreed with a lot of the things he has said and done in Congress — is uniquely positioned (by his pro-impeachment stance) to take votes from Biden on a much more lopsided basis than that.

(04-18-2020 02:12 AM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(04-18-2020 01:36 AM)EagleX Wrote:  are libertarians/Libertarians aware of the electoral havoc that they are surely to provoke with an Amash candidate?

Traditionally, I’d agree that the Libertarians have probably taken more votes out of the GOP’s pile, than they’ve taken from the Democrats’ pile. And in state/local elections, I’d agree that’s probably true, even now. However, I think Trump is an exception to that rule — both in 2016 and in 2020.

I think Gary Johnson took more votes from Hillary! than from Trump, about on a 60/40 basis, if I had to guess. And Justin Amash — much as I’ve admired and agreed with a lot of the things he has said and done in Congress — is uniquely positioned (by his pro-impeachment stance) to take votes from Biden on a much more lopsided basis than that.

look more closely into the election of 2006.

*just a hint

(04-17-2020 10:50 PM)EagleX Wrote:  well, wait a minute. that thread got zero traffic as well. so, then, the question becomes, "why is that?"

It wasn’t packaged properly when it was posted the first time. Marketing is everything, even on a message board.

Interesting. I wonder if his running mate will be the fat guy that bounced around on stage in a thong last Libertarian convention?

(04-17-2020 10:36 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 10:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Amash is a cringelord, and would probably siphon off more votes from biden. Professional, suburban types that refuse to suspend their disbelief that biden isn’t completely gone mentally, but refuse to vote for the orange man.

curious conclusion, given that republicans (allegedly) and libertarians compete for the small government vote.

now, agreed that DJT has skewed conventional party affiliations a bit (well, much more than a bit, actually), but I'm not sure how those professional suburban types don't reckon that the (formerly) robust economy benefited them.

interesting and thoughtful reply.

Same reason poor whites vote Republican, because it's about more than economics. Suburbanites have distinct cultural interests. The men think Trump is too boorish and mean-spirited and the women infantilize minorities and third-worlders. Suburban women will stick with Biden because limousine liberalism is high-status. Suburban men might go Amash, like they considered Johnson or McMullin last election, since they want cultural liberalism to go with their small government.

(04-18-2020 06:17 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 10:50 PM)EagleX Wrote:  well, wait a minute. that thread got zero traffic as well. so, then, the question becomes, "why is that?"

It wasn’t packaged properly when it was posted the first time. Marketing is everything, even on a message board.

I know I make a point to avoid his threads when I can. Very little content to discuss apart from a tweet and a non-sequitur three word phrase. They're sh-tposts.

(04-18-2020 02:42 AM)EagleX Wrote:  look more closely into the election of 2006.

*just a hint

I don’t get it

(04-18-2020 08:06 AM)Mav Wrote:  Interesting. I wonder if his running mate will be the fat guy that bounced around on stage in a thong last Libertarian convention?

(04-17-2020 10:36 PM)EagleX Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 10:29 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Amash is a cringelord, and would probably siphon off more votes from biden. Professional, suburban types that refuse to suspend their disbelief that biden isn’t completely gone mentally, but refuse to vote for the orange man.

curious conclusion, given that republicans (allegedly) and libertarians compete for the small government vote.

now, agreed that DJT has skewed conventional party affiliations a bit (well, much more than a bit, actually), but I'm not sure how those professional suburban types don't reckon that the (formerly) robust economy benefited them.

interesting and thoughtful reply.

Same reason poor whites vote Republican, because it's about more than economics. Suburbanites have distinct cultural interests. The men think Trump is too boorish and mean-spirited and the women infantilize minorities and third-worlders. Suburban women will stick with Biden because limousine liberalism is high-status. Suburban men might go Amash, like they considered Johnson or McMullin last election, since they want cultural liberalism to go with their small government.

(04-18-2020 06:17 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 10:50 PM)EagleX Wrote:  well, wait a minute. that thread got zero traffic as well. so, then, the question becomes, "why is that?"

It wasn’t packaged properly when it was posted the first time. Marketing is everything, even on a message board.

I know I make a point to avoid his threads when I can. Very little content to discuss apart from a tweet and a non-sequitur three word phrase. They're sh-tposts.

in his defense, I'm fairly certain the OP was to provoke thought vs. a 2 party system and how much impact it would generate if he entered as an indy...

he's right.....this country IS a two party system....third party need not attend unless they want the 'other'....and if so, then why fk'n show up at the ballot box if neither???....'that' = 0 every day and the eighth one if =1

as an aside (and also to X's point), let's toss in Cuban's latest rhetoric as another potential 'thorn' in DJT's 'side'...he's easily more formidable in 'scope' than that libertard amish wannabe....

#welcomeToPoliticsBiatches

the liberals/Liberals siphon off votes from properly conservative candidates.

(04-19-2020 01:31 AM)EagleX Wrote:  the liberals/Liberals siphon off votes from properly conservative candidates.

What is conservative anymore? Trillion dollar deficits and a trillion dollars added to the debt doesn’t really scream conservatism. Seems “conservatives” don’t care about those anymore. Where is the tea party now?

(04-19-2020 01:52 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:31 AM)EagleX Wrote:  the liberals/Liberals siphon off votes from properly conservative candidates.

What is conservative anymore? Trillion dollar deficits and a trillion dollars added to the debt doesn’t really scream conservatism. Seems “conservatives” don’t care about those anymore. Where is the tea party now?

thankfully, 'tea-turd out'....

cons are dead or dying....

pragmatics is the 'battle'....

one day all that bs one was 'taught', will finally sink into, "adapt or die"

#sadisticBeautyOfChoice

(04-19-2020 01:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:52 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:31 AM)EagleX Wrote:  the liberals/Liberals siphon off votes from properly conservative candidates.

What is conservative anymore? Trillion dollar deficits and a trillion dollars added to the debt doesn’t really scream conservatism. Seems “conservatives” don’t care about those anymore. Where is the tea party now?

thankfully, 'tea-turd out'....

cons are dead or dying....

pragmatics is the 'battle'....

one day all that bs one was 'taught', will finally sink into, "adapt or die"

#sadisticBeautyOfChoice

Tea turds aren’t out, at what point do actual conservatives act the part?

(04-19-2020 02:00 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:52 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:31 AM)EagleX Wrote:  the liberals/Liberals siphon off votes from properly conservative candidates.

What is conservative anymore? Trillion dollar deficits and a trillion dollars added to the debt doesn’t really scream conservatism. Seems “conservatives” don’t care about those anymore. Where is the tea party now?

thankfully, 'tea-turd out'....

cons are dead or dying....

pragmatics is the 'battle'....

one day all that bs one was 'taught', will finally sink into, "adapt or die"

#sadisticBeautyOfChoice

Tea turds aren’t out, at what point do actual conservatives act the part?

if nothing to act upon nationally in representation, what's the point other than 'acting' for the "districts"???

have you not figured out #henceDJT is still tossing darts at best method en macro?!

what's that ol' sayin'??? 'as individuals we can achieve....as a team, we can conquer'

hence, #theConundrumOfX

(04-19-2020 02:09 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 02:00 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:55 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:52 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 01:31 AM)EagleX Wrote:  the liberals/Liberals siphon off votes from properly conservative candidates.

What is conservative anymore? Trillion dollar deficits and a trillion dollars added to the debt doesn’t really scream conservatism. Seems “conservatives” don’t care about those anymore. Where is the tea party now?

thankfully, 'tea-turd out'....

cons are dead or dying....

pragmatics is the 'battle'....

one day all that bs one was 'taught', will finally sink into, "adapt or die"

#sadisticBeautyOfChoice

Tea turds aren’t out, at what point do actual conservatives act the part?

if nothing to act upon nationally in representation, what's the point other than 'acting' for the "districts"???

have you not figured out #henceDJT is still tossing darts at best method en macro?!

what's that ol' sayin'??? 'as individuals we can achieve....as a team, we can conquer'

hence, #theConundrumOfX

Hope you get to Costa Rica