The things that differentiate College Basketball from pro will not change if the top 10 freshmen a year go pro: consistent effort, defensive intensity, unselfish offensive play. I find today's 3-pt happy NBA particularly hard to watch, though.

Yes, Zion Williamson was fun to watch; but was his Duke team more fun to watch than Villanova's national championship team that was composed of a bunch of upperclassmen? If anything, this may help with cleaning the underbelly of college basketball. Aside from the 4-year Calipari run at Memphis, I do not believe that college basketball has been better in the one-and-done era than it was from 1996-2005 when players could jump straight to the draft.

(04-17-2020 01:16 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Yeah you guys are missing the point entirely.

It isn't about viewership, because nobody watches the G-League at all and never will.

If your team has a lottery pick and all of the lottery picks are in that league then many fans of those teams will watch. Thats the difference now. The gleaguers are guys who will lead NBA teams in a year or two. I watched Luka Doncic games in 2018 just to scout him.

I’m totally fine getting the One and Done’s out of college basketball. They don’t want to go to college anyway so why force them.

I’d rather have a roster will high quality players and young men who play for their college. Not for personal agendas.

So the 3+ and lower 4 star players seem to be the route to go for future recruiting

(04-17-2020 03:40 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  Admittedly, I haven't read up on this process. I'm guessing that Green will not be drafted by a team this year, but play for a league-office "team". Then, he will be drafted in the 2021 draft...?

Look at the quoted section in my first post.

(04-17-2020 10:37 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I can only speak for myself, but I have no interest in the g-league. The players who skip college to go to the g-league will fall off my radar unless/until they make it in the NBA. Only reason I would know about them from college is because I am a Memphis fan and will be following college basketball due to being a Memphis fan.

The games draw between 1,000 - 4,000 and horrible ratings. The only way to know about the games is if a former player is in a highlight package.

(04-17-2020 05:45 PM)dwash Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 01:16 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Yeah you guys are missing the point entirely.

It isn't about viewership, because nobody watches the G-League at all and never will.

If your team has a lottery pick and all of the lottery picks are in that league then many fans of those teams will watch. Thats the difference now. The gleaguers are guys who will lead NBA teams in a year or two. I watched Luka Doncic games in 2018 just to scout him.

These guys aren't going to play in the G-League. They're essentially going to scrimmage there for a year for $500K-1M. But they won't be playing in the games.

(04-17-2020 05:45 PM)dwash Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 01:16 PM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  Yeah you guys are missing the point entirely.

It isn't about viewership, because nobody watches the G-League at all and never will.

If your team has a lottery pick and all of the lottery picks are in that league then many fans of those teams will watch. Thats the difference now. The gleaguers are guys who will lead NBA teams in a year or two. I watched Luka Doncic games in 2018 just to scout him.

The G League will be even worse.

I guess if your getting paid 500k you don't need a crowd. Has anyone on this board ever been to a Hustle game ??
Also does anyone know when this g-league deal allowing them to sign HS seniors went down ... The actual date. And the rule allowing $500k. Thats the real azz kicker there !!

(04-17-2020 11:47 AM)Irse Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 11:39 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 11:25 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(04-17-2020 10:37 AM)memtigbb Wrote:  I can only speak for myself, but I have no interest in the g-league. The players who skip college to go to the g-league will fall off my radar unless/until they make it in the NBA. Only reason I would know about them from college is because I am a Memphis fan and will be following college basketball due to being a Memphis fan.

Speaking for me too.

Same here. Actually, I have no interest in the NBA so I'll never see these G-league kids play at all.

Same here

the thing is, I don't believe these kids are interested in the fans or packed arenas. They want money and the chance to play in the NBA. The G-League offers them over 125k a year to play against NBA level competition in front of NBA scouts. Plus, they know they won't have the NCAA looming over them to make sure they do their homework and go to class when all they want is to play hoops.

This!!! ^^^^^

The games have become a disjointed mess of media time outs and team time outs.

4 media time outs per half, an average of about 20 fouls per team plus what? 4 timeouts for each team - one being a use it in the first half of lose it?

Not to mention several video reviews to check who last touched the ball before it went out of bounds or was it a flagrant foul.

The last minute of a close game can take 10-15 minutes of real time to play with just a few seconds elapsing between fouls or time outs.

Most basketball games have no flow. You get a couple of minutes here and there at best.

There are so many breaks and stoppages of play that player conditioning just can't be nearly as important as it used to be.

I’m not sure what’s in this for the NBA. They had a free developmental system in college basketball, and now they’re going to pony up millions to take these kids on a year early.

(04-18-2020 01:29 PM)former guest Wrote:  This!!! ^^^^^

^^This^^That and double it^^

(04-19-2020 05:26 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  I’m not sure what’s in this for the NBA. They had a free developmental system in college basketball, and now they’re going to pony up millions to take these kids on a year early.

I think it is brilliant on the NBA's part. When they take a 1&D, they are banking that they are getting the next wave of stars in the NBA based on what they did vs the talent level in college. A team wraps up so much into lottery picks (salary, marketing, etc). If a lottery pick is a bust (Hasheem Thabeet) or a marginal player, they have to wait till the rookie contract is up to get rid of em (unless they can trade them).

Going this new G League route, they get to see this same player that would have been a 1&D play against better competition all the while developing this kid in all aspects of a modern NBA (soon to be) star (physical, expanding their game, financial advisors, image consultants, etc). If the kid is a bust in the G League, then they will have spent a fraction on what they would have spent if they had drafted him out of college.

I don't think college bb is in trouble...

(04-19-2020 05:45 PM)JClark Wrote:  I don't think college bb is in trouble...

Me either.
I wish college basketball/NBA could adopt the same eligibility rules as college baseball & the MLB. Go pro after HS or after your 3rd year in college... seems like it would be much less disruptive and far more stable for all involved.

(04-19-2020 07:45 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 05:45 PM)JClark Wrote:  I don't think college bb is in trouble...

Me either.
I wish college basketball/NBA could adopt the same eligibility rules as college baseball & the MLB. Go pro after HS or after your 3rd year in college... seems like it would be much less disruptive and far more stable for all involved.

I like the sound of that too.

(04-19-2020 07:45 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 05:45 PM)JClark Wrote:  I don't think college bb is in trouble...

Me either.
I wish college basketball/NBA could adopt the same eligibility rules as college baseball & the MLB. Go pro after HS or after your 3rd year in college... seems like it would be much less disruptive and far more stable for all involved.

Well said...

MLB and College Baseball got it RIGHT, years ago. Very simply, if you are a potential star and want to sign out of HS for a large signing bonus, you then forego college and head to the Instructional League for a time, get evaluated and then are assigned to generally Class A or periodically AA.

Unlike hoops, in most cases takes several years in getting called up to Majors, this helps develop players properly and prolongs their career. In the past 40 years (1980), only 8 players have gone directly from HS to the Big Show and 5 of those were pitchers, thus MLB doing something right.

If you choose to attend college, a player can be drafted once more after junior season, thus being much closer to graduation and an alternative future if things don’t work out.

Big difference is MLB is much more advanced in thinking about the person vs athletic prowess, player gets a second chance to be drafted. NBA on the other hand is all about the money and revenue it brings the league and owners. Average pro life for NBA (all former players included) is 4.5 years. So basically if you wash out early with no formal education, life will be tough, unless you saved half of what you made in that span. We all know that just doesn’t happen with 19-24 year olds.

(04-19-2020 10:51 PM)Tigator14 Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 07:45 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 05:45 PM)JClark Wrote:  I don't think college bb is in trouble...

Me either.
I wish college basketball/NBA could adopt the same eligibility rules as college baseball & the MLB. Go pro after HS or after your 3rd year in college... seems like it would be much less disruptive and far more stable for all involved.

Well said...

MLB and College Baseball got it RIGHT, years ago. Very simply, if you are a potential star and want to sign out of HS for a large signing bonus, you then forego college and head to the Instructional League for a time, get evaluated and then are assigned to generally Class A or periodically AA.

Unlike hoops, in most cases takes several years in getting called up to Majors, this helps develop players properly and prolongs their career. In the past 40 years (1980), only 8 players have gone directly from HS to the Big Show and 5 of those were pitchers, thus MLB doing something right.

If you choose to attend college, a player can be drafted once more after junior season, thus being much closer to graduation and an alternative future if things don’t work out.

Big difference is MLB is much more advanced in thinking about the person vs athletic prowess, player gets a second chance to be drafted. NBA on the other hand is all about the money and revenue it brings the league and owners. Average pro life for NBA (all former players included) is 4.5 years. So basically if you wash out early with no formal education, life will be tough, unless you saved half of what you made in that span. We all know that just doesn’t happen with 19-24 year olds.

So, if you are stupid enough to not take that in consideration, then I got nothing for you...you made your choice, live with it...

(04-19-2020 11:07 PM)mapdude Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 10:51 PM)Tigator14 Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 07:45 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(04-19-2020 05:45 PM)JClark Wrote:  I don't think college bb is in trouble...

Me either.
I wish college basketball/NBA could adopt the same eligibility rules as college baseball & the MLB. Go pro after HS or after your 3rd year in college... seems like it would be much less disruptive and far more stable for all involved.

Well said...

MLB and College Baseball got it RIGHT, years ago. Very simply, if you are a potential star and want to sign out of HS for a large signing bonus, you then forego college and head to the Instructional League for a time, get evaluated and then are assigned to generally Class A or periodically AA.

Unlike hoops, in most cases takes several years in getting called up to Majors, this helps develop players properly and prolongs their career. In the past 40 years (1980), only 8 players have gone directly from HS to the Big Show and 5 of those were pitchers, thus MLB doing something right.

If you choose to attend college, a player can be drafted once more after junior season, thus being much closer to graduation and an alternative future if things don’t work out.

Big difference is MLB is much more advanced in thinking about the person vs athletic prowess, player gets a second chance to be drafted. NBA on the other hand is all about the money and revenue it brings the league and owners. Average pro life for NBA (all former players included) is 4.5 years. So basically if you wash out early with no formal education, life will be tough, unless you saved half of what you made in that span. We all know that just doesn’t happen with 19-24 year olds.

So, if you are stupid enough to not take that in consideration, then I got nothing for you...you made your choice, live with it...

Yeah screw 'em. Stupid kids.