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Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

(04-14-2020 10:41 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

(04-14-2020 10:52 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:41 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

They lead by blaming Covid 19 which is disingenuous. There is no way the last month and a half put them in this position. How about being honest and owning the poor decisions the leagues have made.

Hey, NCAA, we 5 ducked up and are incompetent. HELP! Yeah. That'll work

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(04-15-2020 06:33 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:52 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:41 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

They lead by blaming Covid 19 which is disingenuous. There is no way the last month and a half put them in this position. How about being honest and owning the poor decisions the leagues have made.

Is it disingenuous though?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ncaa-school...1158525637

It is bad planning for them to not have safeguards in place for a situation like this, but how many businesses can see a big part of their revenue cut to 1/3 of the expected amount and not have major impacts?

When AAC schools are cutting sports, it shows how bad the financial situation is for the non-P5s. And those schools get $5million+ more per year than CUSA. It really is stupid how expensive things are. Im about ready to go back to FCS or watch the P5 split off. I just want to watch some competitive games, compete for championships etc. Screw all the transferring, multi-million dollar paid coaches, paid players, cheating, inequity etc. Its college sports. Its supposed to be fun. A nice time for fans and students to watch their school or town represent on the athletic field. An opportunity for students to have fun and compete at a high level. A scholarship, top level training and coaching, and room and board should be enough payment. I'd like to see salary caps put on coaches. Id like to see revenue sharing amongst all of the NCAA. The arms race is stupid. The expenditures are stupid.

(04-15-2020 07:36 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 06:33 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:52 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:41 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

They lead by blaming Covid 19 which is disingenuous. There is no way the last month and a half put them in this position. How about being honest and owning the poor decisions the leagues have made.

Is it disingenuous though?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ncaa-school...1158525637

It is bad planning for them to not have safeguards in place for a situation like this, but how many businesses can see a big part of their revenue cut to 1/3 of the expected amount and not have major impacts?

To ignore the years of poor planning and other issues only to blame an event no could have forecasted for it to me disengenuous. They are saying the past 7 weeks is responsible for the financial situation they are in. Sorry I don't buy it from Wood Selig and sure don't buy it from CUSA which more poorly run than our athletic department

(04-15-2020 08:39 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 07:36 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 06:33 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:52 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:41 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

They lead by blaming Covid 19 which is disingenuous. There is no way the last month and a half put them in this position. How about being honest and owning the poor decisions the leagues have made.

Is it disingenuous though?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ncaa-school...1158525637

It is bad planning for them to not have safeguards in place for a situation like this, but how many businesses can see a big part of their revenue cut to 1/3 of the expected amount and not have major impacts?

To ignore the years of poor planning and other issues only to blame an event no could have forecasted for it to me disengenuous. They are saying the past 7 weeks is responsible for the financial situation they are in. Sorry I don't buy it from Wood Selig and sure don't buy it from CUSA which more poorly run than our athletic department

You budget around expected payments and when that revenue stream is cut off, it is going to create a shortfall. To act as if this is only the result of poor planning is disingenuous on your part. Literally every industry that has been impacted is asking for help right now. Why do you expect college athletics to be any different?

This will impact many conferences. The only schools that can get thru this without cuts, are the ones that rely almost totally on student fees like the MEAC or JMU who get 80% of their AD budget from student fees. The cancellation of NCAAT certainly hit the G5 schools but what about P5s. Many conferences send half the teams and some make deep runs, that is certainly a big hit. Our conference is sending one team out of 14, for one or two games. If football is cancelled or shorten, is ESPN paying millions for no content. I bet travel will change after this settles down, just like it changed after 911. Charter flights will become much more expensive. There will more than likely less commercial flights for a year or two, so air travel will be more restrictive.

(04-15-2020 08:39 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 07:36 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 06:33 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:52 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:41 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

They lead by blaming Covid 19 which is disingenuous. There is no way the last month and a half put them in this position. How about being honest and owning the poor decisions the leagues have made.

Is it disingenuous though?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ncaa-school...1158525637

It is bad planning for them to not have safeguards in place for a situation like this, but how many businesses can see a big part of their revenue cut to 1/3 of the expected amount and not have major impacts?

To ignore the years of poor planning and other issues only to blame an event no could have forecasted for it to me disengenuous. They are saying the past 7 weeks is responsible for the financial situation they are in. Sorry I don't buy it from Wood Selig and sure don't buy it from CUSA which more poorly run than our athletic department

They run a tight budget, it's not like they have reserves in case of this. The last 7 weeks happen to be a major revenue source....I think I read that ODU alone lost out on a million dollars.

Not saying CUSA or ODU is blameless but they are hurting financially like all of us that had a light switch turned off.

Yahoo Sports Article

The Yahoo article above was referenced in the CBS link. It makes the most sense out of anything I have seen about this to yet.

I think the NCAA is going to approve some of what the letter asked for but not all of it. Relaxing the sport sponsorship requirement for four years feels like the throw negotiation point. How does a school realistically expect to shut down a program for four years and then restart it? I really think they are looking at possibly reducing scholarships and having some scheduling flexibility. My hope is that this could start some logical geographical realignment. Conferences should have all of the states with members touch or have no more than one state in between.

Edited to clean up a very messy sentence.

(04-15-2020 08:44 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 08:39 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 07:36 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 06:33 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:52 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

They lead by blaming Covid 19 which is disingenuous. There is no way the last month and a half put them in this position. How about being honest and owning the poor decisions the leagues have made.

Is it disingenuous though?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ncaa-school...1158525637

It is bad planning for them to not have safeguards in place for a situation like this, but how many businesses can see a big part of their revenue cut to 1/3 of the expected amount and not have major impacts?

To ignore the years of poor planning and other issues only to blame an event no could have forecasted for it to me disengenuous. They are saying the past 7 weeks is responsible for the financial situation they are in. Sorry I don't buy it from Wood Selig and sure don't buy it from CUSA which more poorly run than our athletic department

You budget around expected payments and when that revenue stream is cut off, it is going to create a shortfall. To act as if this is only the result of poor planning is disingenuous on your part. Literally every industry that has been impacted is asking for help right now. Why do you expect college athletics to be any different?

I understand how budgeting works as I am on that side in my industry. No one could have seen this coming, but it is not just this one event that has lead to this point. We will agree, to disagree and continue to have great chats about ODU sports

(04-15-2020 08:39 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 07:36 AM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(04-15-2020 06:33 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:52 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  

(04-14-2020 10:41 PM)CalODUFan Wrote:  Group of 5 conferences asking for relief:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/st...quirements

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...to-be-cut/

They lead by blaming Covid 19 which is disingenuous. There is no way the last month and a half put them in this position. How about being honest and owning the poor decisions the leagues have made.

Is it disingenuous though?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ncaa-school...1158525637

It is bad planning for them to not have safeguards in place for a situation like this, but how many businesses can see a big part of their revenue cut to 1/3 of the expected amount and not have major impacts?

To ignore the years of poor planning and other issues only to blame an event no could have forecasted for it to me disengenuous. They are saying the past 7 weeks is responsible for the financial situation they are in. Sorry I don't buy it from Wood Selig and sure don't buy it from CUSA which more poorly run than our athletic department

I've been talking for years about the financial trouble Woody has put us in. It was only a matter of time and the writing has been on the wall. He was running what is similar to a pyramid scheme, relying on new investors to pay for spending money that didn't exist. COVID ensured there were no new investors to pay off his new spending. In the meantime, media revenue has been slowly dwindling and now we are getting nothing from the conference. So, while COVID is not responsible, it certainly brought things into light. I would imagine this is happening in a lot of corporate structures (where leadership is spending other peoples money and leveraging other peoples capital). I would imagine other structures are generally better prepared.

(04-15-2020 08:33 AM)monarx Wrote:  When AAC schools are cutting sports, it shows how bad the financial situation is for the non-P5s. And those schools get $5million+ more per year than CUSA. It really is stupid how expensive things are. Im about ready to go back to FCS or watch the P5 split off. I just want to watch some competitive games, compete for championships etc. Screw all the transferring, multi-million dollar paid coaches, paid players, cheating, inequity etc. Its college sports. Its supposed to be fun. A nice time for fans and students to watch their school or town represent on the athletic field. An opportunity for students to have fun and compete at a high level. A scholarship, top level training and coaching, and room and board should be enough payment. I'd like to see salary caps put on coaches. Id like to see revenue sharing amongst all of the NCAA. The arms race is stupid. The expenditures are stupid.

I'm sure Woody isn't the only one. What is impressive when hiring an AD is how much money they've spent. Maybe it is time to reassess what should be considered "best practices".

(04-15-2020 09:52 AM)ODU2K1 Wrote:  Yahoo Sports Article

The Yahoo article above was referenced in the CBS link. It makes the most sense out of anything I have seen about this to yet.

I think the NCAA is going to approve some of what the letter asked for but not all of it. Relaxing the sport sponsorship requirement for four years feels like the throw negotiation point. How does a school realistically expect to shut down a program for four years and then restart it? I really think they are looking at possibly reducing scholarships and having some scheduling flexibility. My hope is that this could start some logical geographical realignment. If you are going to conferences should have all of the states with members touch or have no more than one state in between.

What you're suggesting is madness, a return to geographic rivalries. Please speak of this no more. The fans might approve and who knows where it might lead. Institutions would be forced to check egos at the door. ADs and conference commissioners might be forced to change schedules. Even worse, the NCAA might have to change cherished regulations inhibiting reorganization. No one could condone such anarchy. You may wish to delete the above post. Someone might think you're serious.