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COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
This isn't a let's fix everything forever with a nifty keen draw on maps idea.

This is a short-term emergency solution geared to cut costs for a couple years in a few sports.

First. Exclude football. If football happens, it's too late to tear up schedules and because of how football travels, safety during travel isn't a critical issue.
Second. Exclude all sports that don't play a league schedule. Sports like track and golf only get together at a championship event. No reason to deal with what amounts to one trip.

So we are only talking basketball, volleyball, baseball, softball, tennis, women's soccer and maybe men's soccer, the geography of men's soccer in both leagues weighs east and each has a couple affiliates to deal with.

For 2020-21 and 2021-22 CUSA East and Sun Belt East in the impacted sports will be administered by the Sun Belt out of New Orleans and Sun Belt West and CUSA West will be administered out of Irving by CUSA.

After everyone gets their financial feet back under them, everyone goes back from whence they came.

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https://247sports.com/college/arkansas-s...146066749/
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
If a realignment happens it won't be temporary. Why temporarily do something that saves time and money? They'll see how well it works and not want to go back.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
(04-15-2020 06:16 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  If a realignment happens it won't be temporary. Why temporarily do something that saves time and money? They'll see how well it works and not want to go back.

That’s for presidents and ADs to sort out. I’m just hoping to help find a path to avoid some kids in Olympic sports losing their team.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
Why limit this to C-USA and the Sunbelt? All of the G5 conferences requested the waiver. Allow UTEP to compete with the MWC front range schools, and let programs near the MAC footprint (Marshall, Temple, Cincinnati?) compete there. And then scramble the AAC, C-USA and Sunbelt schools into east, central and west.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
(04-15-2020 08:03 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  Why limit this to C-USA and the Sunbelt? All of the G5 conferences requested the waiver. Allow UTEP to compete with the MWC front range schools, and let programs near the MAC footprint (Marshall, Temple, Cincinnati?) compete there. And then scramble the AAC, C-USA and Sunbelt schools into east, central and west.

Aresco talked yesterday and today on the AACs plans. Said the conference will make it through (lots of possible adjustments and cost cutting measures). Also mentioned UC was looking to cut soccer before covid.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
This is where being in the middle might be a disadvantage. While the average distance from South Alabama to the members in this western league is less than the eastern league, it is still more than just staying in the Sun Belt.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
(04-15-2020 08:03 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  Why limit this to C-USA and the Sunbelt? All of the G5 conferences requested the waiver. Allow UTEP to compete with the MWC front range schools, and let programs near the MAC footprint (Marshall, Temple, Cincinnati?) compete there. And then scramble the AAC, C-USA and Sunbelt schools into east, central and west.

Doesn’t have to be limited to SBC and CUSA but opportunities beyond them are more limited. MAC is compact already. Outside UTEP no one can benefit with MWC. AAC has good TV deal with hoops presumably significant part of value.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
I'm perfectly fine with moving all UCF sports except FB and MBB to a regional league. Back in the 90s when UCF, FAU, and others were still in the A-Sun, it was one of the best baseball leagues in the country. I'm perfectly fine with baseball and the others moving to a new Sunshine Athletic Conference of all the Florida D-1 schools sans UF, FSU, and Miami (who I'm sure will refuse to participate). It'd save a boatload of money versus flying teams around the AAC, and the level of competition in most sports would still be fine.

I'm thinking:

UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
UNF
FGCU
FAMU
Bethune-Cookman
Jacksonville U.
Stetson

Nice 10 team league of all bus trips. The longest road trip would be about 7.5-8 hours from FIU to FAMU.

If there were some reason to go to 12, Georgia Southern, Troy, South Alabama, and Georgia State/Kennesaw State (very easy and cheap to fly to Atlanta from anywhere in Florida commercially...and GSU/KSU could be travel partners) would be worth considering.

Absolutely nuts to be flying non-revenue sports around the country when you can do bus trips that will result in less missed class time and significant cost savings.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
(04-15-2020 10:50 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'm perfectly fine with moving all UCF sports except FB and MBB to a regional league. Back in the 90s when UCF, FAU, and others were still in the A-Sun, it was one of the best baseball leagues in the country. I'm perfectly fine with baseball and the others moving to a new Sunshine Athletic Conference of all the Florida D-1 schools sans UF, FSU, and Miami (who I'm sure will refuse to participate). It'd save a boatload of money versus flying teams around the AAC, and the level of competition in most sports would still be fine.

I'm thinking:

UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
UNF
FGCU
FAMU
Bethune-Cookman
Jacksonville U.
Stetson

Nice 10 team league of all bus trips. The longest road trip would be about 7.5-8 hours from FIU to FAMU.

If there were some reason to go to 12, Georgia Southern, Troy, South Alabama, and Georgia State/Kennesaw State (very easy and cheap to fly to Atlanta from anywhere in Florida commercially...and GSU/KSU could be travel partners) would be worth considering.

Absolutely nuts to be flying non-revenue sports around the country when you can do bus trips that will result in less missed class time and significant cost savings.

I like this idea and would be curious how it could work out, especially for other conferences.

After all, they are student athletes 03-wink
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
(04-15-2020 02:20 PM)bhutchcraft89 Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 10:50 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'm perfectly fine with moving all UCF sports except FB and MBB to a regional league. Back in the 90s when UCF, FAU, and others were still in the A-Sun, it was one of the best baseball leagues in the country. I'm perfectly fine with baseball and the others moving to a new Sunshine Athletic Conference of all the Florida D-1 schools sans UF, FSU, and Miami (who I'm sure will refuse to participate). It'd save a boatload of money versus flying teams around the AAC, and the level of competition in most sports would still be fine.

I'm thinking:

UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
UNF
FGCU
FAMU
Bethune-Cookman
Jacksonville U.
Stetson

Nice 10 team league of all bus trips. The longest road trip would be about 7.5-8 hours from FIU to FAMU.

If there were some reason to go to 12, Georgia Southern, Troy, South Alabama, and Georgia State/Kennesaw State (very easy and cheap to fly to Atlanta from anywhere in Florida commercially...and GSU/KSU could be travel partners) would be worth considering.

Absolutely nuts to be flying non-revenue sports around the country when you can do bus trips that will result in less missed class time and significant cost savings.

I like this idea and would be curious how it could work out, especially for other conferences.

After all, they are student athletes 03-wink
I like the idea too only i would like to see the Texas cusa schools plus TSU and NMSU combine with the mwc front range schools. I wonder how NMSU and other far flung indy's will fare in all this and i think near by conferences should include them in the temporary plans.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
(04-15-2020 02:39 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 02:20 PM)bhutchcraft89 Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 10:50 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'm perfectly fine with moving all UCF sports except FB and MBB to a regional league. Back in the 90s when UCF, FAU, and others were still in the A-Sun, it was one of the best baseball leagues in the country. I'm perfectly fine with baseball and the others moving to a new Sunshine Athletic Conference of all the Florida D-1 schools sans UF, FSU, and Miami (who I'm sure will refuse to participate). It'd save a boatload of money versus flying teams around the AAC, and the level of competition in most sports would still be fine.

I'm thinking:

UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
UNF
FGCU
FAMU
Bethune-Cookman
Jacksonville U.
Stetson

Nice 10 team league of all bus trips. The longest road trip would be about 7.5-8 hours from FIU to FAMU.

If there were some reason to go to 12, Georgia Southern, Troy, South Alabama, and Georgia State/Kennesaw State (very easy and cheap to fly to Atlanta from anywhere in Florida commercially...and GSU/KSU could be travel partners) would be worth considering.

Absolutely nuts to be flying non-revenue sports around the country when you can do bus trips that will result in less missed class time and significant cost savings.

I like this idea and would be curious how it could work out, especially for other conferences.

After all, they are student athletes 03-wink
I like the idea too only i would like to see the Texas cusa schools plus TSU and NMSU combine with the mwc front range schools. I wonder how NMSU and other far flung indy's will fare in all this and i think near by conferences should include them in the temporary plans.

You want Texas Southern or Tarleton State?
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(04-15-2020 09:21 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 02:39 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 02:20 PM)bhutchcraft89 Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 10:50 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'm perfectly fine with moving all UCF sports except FB and MBB to a regional league. Back in the 90s when UCF, FAU, and others were still in the A-Sun, it was one of the best baseball leagues in the country. I'm perfectly fine with baseball and the others moving to a new Sunshine Athletic Conference of all the Florida D-1 schools sans UF, FSU, and Miami (who I'm sure will refuse to participate). It'd save a boatload of money versus flying teams around the AAC, and the level of competition in most sports would still be fine.

I'm thinking:

UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
UNF
FGCU
FAMU
Bethune-Cookman
Jacksonville U.
Stetson

Nice 10 team league of all bus trips. The longest road trip would be about 7.5-8 hours from FIU to FAMU.

If there were some reason to go to 12, Georgia Southern, Troy, South Alabama, and Georgia State/Kennesaw State (very easy and cheap to fly to Atlanta from anywhere in Florida commercially...and GSU/KSU could be travel partners) would be worth considering.

Absolutely nuts to be flying non-revenue sports around the country when you can do bus trips that will result in less missed class time and significant cost savings.

I like this idea and would be curious how it could work out, especially for other conferences.

After all, they are student athletes 03-wink
I like the idea too only i would like to see the Texas cusa schools plus TSU and NMSU combine with the mwc front range schools. I wonder how NMSU and other far flung indy's will fare in all this and i think near by conferences should include them in the temporary plans.

You want Texas Southern or Tarleton State?

I think Texas State would fit this group well.
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RE: COVID-Sun-USA Realignment
(04-15-2020 11:43 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 09:21 PM)Bobcat2013 Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 02:39 PM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 02:20 PM)bhutchcraft89 Wrote:  
(04-15-2020 10:50 AM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'm perfectly fine with moving all UCF sports except FB and MBB to a regional league. Back in the 90s when UCF, FAU, and others were still in the A-Sun, it was one of the best baseball leagues in the country. I'm perfectly fine with baseball and the others moving to a new Sunshine Athletic Conference of all the Florida D-1 schools sans UF, FSU, and Miami (who I'm sure will refuse to participate). It'd save a boatload of money versus flying teams around the AAC, and the level of competition in most sports would still be fine.

I'm thinking:

UCF
USF
FAU
FIU
UNF
FGCU
FAMU
Bethune-Cookman
Jacksonville U.
Stetson

Nice 10 team league of all bus trips. The longest road trip would be about 7.5-8 hours from FIU to FAMU.

If there were some reason to go to 12, Georgia Southern, Troy, South Alabama, and Georgia State/Kennesaw State (very easy and cheap to fly to Atlanta from anywhere in Florida commercially...and GSU/KSU could be travel partners) would be worth considering.

Absolutely nuts to be flying non-revenue sports around the country when you can do bus trips that will result in less missed class time and significant cost savings.

I like this idea and would be curious how it could work out, especially for other conferences.

After all, they are student athletes 03-wink
I like the idea too only i would like to see the Texas cusa schools plus TSU and NMSU combine with the mwc front range schools. I wonder how NMSU and other far flung indy's will fare in all this and i think near by conferences should include them in the temporary plans.

You want Texas Southern or Tarleton State?

I think Texas State would fit this group well.

I think my pedantry went over your head lol. I was just poking a little fun because TSU is not our acronym. But it works for Texas Southern or Tarleton. Ours is TXST. I would love for your idea to come to fruition though! Heck I'd love a H/H with y'all.
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