(04-07-2020 10:26 PM)georgewebb Wrote: (04-07-2020 04:16 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: I still support merging CUSA West and SunBelt West, and CUSA East and SunBelt East, to form two regional conferences. No, Rice is not an academic peer with anyone in either CUSA or SunBelt. But right now we are their athletic peers, at best. And it would seem that we would have a much better chance to develop meaningful athletic relations with Texas State and ULaLa and Arkansas State than with ODU and Charlotte and Middle Tennessee.
Sometimes I wonder if there are industry "experts" who tell the schools that geographically compact conferences are bad.
At the P5 level, there is some need to reach out to get TV markets. The B1G's moves to pick up Maryland (DC/Baltimore) and Rutgers (NYC/Philly) fit into that category, as does the Pac-12 moves to pick up Utah (Salt Lake City) and Colorado (Denver). West Virginia to the XII always seemed a curious move to me. IIRC Cincinnati, Louisville, and BYU were available at the time, and would have been geographic extensions, but not as far afield, and would have brought bigger TV markets. Getting your volleyball team home from Morgantown after a Tuesday night game has to be a major hassle.
But at the G5 level, the travel considerations for women's and non-revenue sports would seem to dictate more geographic alignments. Our CUSA TV package sucks. It wouldn't get better for a geographically compact G5 West merger. But it could hardly get worse, and the move makes sense for other reasons. I've done this before, but here's what I would have in mind:
CUSA West
Rice
UTEP
New Mexico State (add)
UTSA
Texas State
North Texas
La Tech
UT-Arlington (non-football)
CUSA East
Arkansas State
ULaLa
Louisiana-Monroe
Southern Miss
UAB
FAU
FIU
UALR (non-football)
SunBelt North
Marshall
ODU
WKY
Appalachian State
Charlotte
Liberty (add)
Howard (men's soccer)
SunBelt South
Troy
South Alabama
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
Coastal Carolina
Middle TN
Central Arkansas (men's soccer)
Arguably, the more logical geographic arrangement would be for the Florida schools could go to SunBelt and the other two Alabama schools to CUSA. The problem with that is that with the SunBelt west schools going to CUSA, that would leave SunBelt with fewer than 6 carryover schools, which would mean loss of their NCAA basketball automatic bid. Or you could let the two Florida schools go to SunBelt with no replacement, move LaTech to CUSA East, and move Middle TN to SunBelt North. Selfishly, I'd like to keep LaTech in CUSA West because it is one of the few CUSA schools with whom we have actually built some kind of rivalry, and I'd also like to keep the Florida schools in CUSA because they bring at least part of the Miami TV market, and I think they are programs that are committed to winning and that would ultimately help the conference. Geographically, Central Arkansas is closer to the CUSA teams, but most of them don't play men's soccer. Given the small number of schools in both proposed leagues that do, it might make sense to have a combined men's soccer conference. Among top 50 TV markets, CUSA would have some penetration in Houston (8), DFW (5), San Antonio (31), Birmingham (44), and Miami (16), and SunBelt would have some penetration in Atlanta (10), Charlotte (21), Nashville (28), Norfolk (42), and possibly DC (7).
CUSA football could play either 8 or 9 conference games--6 in your division, plus either 2 or 3 crossover. Baskeball you could play home-and-home against your division (14 games) plus 4 or 6 crossover games, for a total of 20, or you could play everybody once (15 games) plus 3 or 5 division opponents a second time. Basketball travel partners would be UTEP/NMSU, UTSA/Texas State, UNT/UTA, Rice/La Tech, Arkansas State/UALR, ULaLa/ULM, Southern Miss/UAB, and FIU/FAU.
At the end of the day, I think we would be better off in that alignment. It would cut travel costs (a huge factor given the Rice "business approach" to athletics) and it could potentially generate more revenues since we would be playing football against teams whose alumni live close enough to make the trip. We would pick up NMSU and Texas State as divisional foes, and we would replace Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, WKY and Middle TN as crossover opponents with Arkansas State, ULaLa, and Louisiana-Monroe, We wouldn't be playing "peer institutions" but face it, unless Notre Dame decided that it wanted to be part of a "Magnolia League," there is no conference of "peer institutions" that makes any economic sense at all.