For the Big Ten, Big XII and Pac-12 it's easy -- just play their conference games.

For the ACC and SEC - as well as all FBS independents - it's a little/lot more complicated. Who would they actually play in those 9 games?

Again, I assume the ACC and SEC would both play their 8 conference games. That leaves one OOC game for each of those 28 teams. There's also Notre Dame, BYU, Connecticut and others to think of. Here's what I came up with for the 9th game for each ACC and SEC team:

ACC Team vs Opponent
Boston College vs Notre Dame*
Clemson vs S Carolina
Duke vs Notre Dame
Florida State vs Florida
Georgia Tech vs Georgia
Louisville vs Kentucky
Miami vs Notre Dame*
N. Carolina vs Auburn
NC State vs Miss. State
Pitt vs Notre Dame
Syracuse vs U Conn*
Virginia vs U Conn
Virginia Tech vs Notre Dame*
Wake Forest vs Notre Dame
* indicates a substitute game

SEC Team vs Opponent
Florida vs Florida State
Georgia vs Georgia Tech
Kentucky vs Louisville
Missouri vs BYU
S Carolina vs Clemson
Tennessee vs BYU*
Vanderbilt vs U Conn*
Alabama vs BYU*
Auburn vs UNC
LSU vs BYU*
Miss. State vs NC State
Ole Miss vs U Conn
Texas A&M vs BYU*
* indicates a substitute game

I preserved as many OOC games as I could for Notre Dame, then gave priority to BYU and UConn when back-filling. Between those 3, any G5 teams looking for a 9th OOC game, and each other, I figure the other independents could come up with a 9-game schedule -- but I leave that as an exercise for you guys!

For my complete reasoning on why I picked these teams, check this out:
https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2020/...on-is.html

What do you think? If 12+a CCGs+CFP won't work, could we at least get in 9 and just use the polls this one time?

(04-06-2020 09:09 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  For the Big Ten, Big XII and Pac-12 it's easy -- just play their conference games.

For the ACC and SEC - as well as all FBS independents - it's a little/lot more complicated. Who would they actually play in those 9 games?

Again, I assume the ACC and SEC would both play their 8 conference games. That leaves one OOC game for each of those 28 teams. There's also Notre Dame, BYU, Connecticut and others to think of. Here's what I came up with for the 9th game for each ACC and SEC team:

ACC Team vs Opponent
Boston College vs Notre Dame*
Clemson vs S Carolina
Duke vs Notre Dame
Florida State vs Florida
Georgia Tech vs Georgia
Louisville vs Kentucky
Miami vs Notre Dame*
N. Carolina vs Auburn
NC State vs Miss. State
Pitt vs Notre Dame
Syracuse vs U Conn*
Virginia vs U Conn
Virginia Tech vs Notre Dame*
Wake Forest vs Notre Dame
* indicates a substitute game

SEC Team vs Opponent
Florida vs Florida State
Georgia vs Georgia Tech
Kentucky vs Louisville
Missouri vs BYU
S Carolina vs Clemson
Tennessee vs BYU*
Vanderbilt vs U Conn*
Alabama vs BYU*
Auburn vs UNC
LSU vs BYU*
Miss. State vs NC State
Ole Miss vs U Conn
Texas A&M vs BYU*
* indicates a substitute game

I preserved as many OOC games as I could for Notre Dame, then gave priority to BYU and UConn when back-filling. Between those 3, any G5 teams looking for a 9th OOC game, and each other, I figure the other independents could come up with a 9-game schedule -- but I leave that as an exercise for you guys!

For my complete reasoning on why I picked these teams, check this out:
https://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2020/...on-is.html

What do you think? If 12+a CCGs+CFP won't work, could we at least get in 9 and just use the polls this one time?

You really worked hard at this. I think it's a pretty good schedule, given the difficult circumstances.

I think 9 games is what most can figure out a way to adjust to. The detailed dates become an important problem to solve.

If they’re ignoring all OOC contracts because they can’t meet them all, then I’d guess the SEC and ACC would just add another conference game. If they made an arrangement to play a different OOC team than one of the teams they’re contracted to play they might be opening a can of worms.

(04-06-2020 10:06 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  If they’re ignoring all OOC contracts because they can’t meet them all, then I’d guess the SEC and ACC would just add another conference game. If they made an arrangement to play a different OOC team than one of the teams they’re contracted to play they might be opening a can of worms.

In the case of the ACC, I tried to only preserve existing OOC games - starting, of course, with the 6 games setup with Notre Dame this year. I had to switch a few games - like UConn was set to play at UNC but the Tar Heels also have Auburn, so I moved UConn to Syracuse (which didn't have any OOC games it could really keep), etc.

Notre Dame replaces Clemson with Miami so that the Tigers can keep the Gamecocks, and VT replaces GT so that the Jackets can play the Bulldogs. Stuff like that.

My 2 cents:

Keep the 4 instate SEC vs ACC rivalries

UF-FSU
UGA-GT
SC-Clemson
UK-L’ville

Notre Dame plays 8 of the remaining 10 ACC schools plus Navy

Last 2 ACC schools play an OCC game against each other.

The remaining 10 SEC teams each play an OOC game within the conference.

Could they suspend conference games for a year and let the schools make the best schedule they can? Drop the minimum games requirement, let schools do what they can, whether it's five or seven or nine games, and let the polls declare a national champion since I presume bowls and a playoff system would be too close to a predicted second wave to depend on their ability to exist.

So if you're Va. Tech, for example, you probably work up one-year deals with UVa. (or even a home-and-home) and the North Carolina ACC schools, then buy a couple of regional schools and maybe do something with an SEC school.

(04-06-2020 10:57 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Could they suspend conference games for a year and let the schools make the best schedule they can? Drop the minimum games requirement, let schools do what they can, whether it's five or seven or nine games, and let the polls declare a national champion since I presume bowls and a playoff system would be too close to a predicted second wave to depend on their ability to exist.

So if you're Va. Tech, for example, you probably work up one-year deals with UVa. (or even a home-and-home) and the North Carolina ACC schools, then buy a couple of regional schools and maybe do something with an SEC school.

It would be chaos, but that is a possibility. Imagine trying to work all that out in just a few months with no framework or even a guideline!

Another option is to play only *divisional* conference games (5 or 6 conference games) and keep ALL of your OOC games in tact (3 or 4 OOC games).

That would be the least disruptive to the hundreds of OOC game contracts out there. The Big 12 would need to come up with divisions or some other 6-game non-round-robin conference schedule.

If you still have CCGs, it would simply pair the division winners after strictly divisional round-robin play.

The independents would each need to trim 3 games; then, you would need to figure out how to match up the 20 or so teams that are trimmed from the independents' schedules and still give everyone 9 games. A straightforward starting point for trimming the independent schedules would be to first lose the FCS home game...so only a single OOC game for only 13 non-independents would be disrupted (Notre Dame doesn't play the FCS game, Army and Liberty each play 2).

(04-06-2020 10:12 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 10:06 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  If they’re ignoring all OOC contracts because they can’t meet them all, then I’d guess the SEC and ACC would just add another conference game. If they made an arrangement to play a different OOC team than one of the teams they’re contracted to play they might be opening a can of worms.

In the case of the ACC, I tried to only preserve existing OOC games - starting, of course, with the 6 games setup with Notre Dame this year. I had to switch a few games - like UConn was set to play at UNC but the Tar Heels also have Auburn, so I moved UConn to Syracuse (which didn't have any OOC games it could really keep), etc.

Notre Dame replaces Clemson with Miami so that the Tigers can keep the Gamecocks, and VT replaces GT so that the Jackets can play the Bulldogs. Stuff like that.

In this scenario, ND might want to cut an ACC game or two to keep others on the schedule, like Navy, Stanford and Wisconsin.

(my guesses on ND's prefered games in this scenario in bold)



2020 Football Schedule

08/29 VS Navy (Aviva Stadium) 2:00 PM
09/12 Arkansas 2:30 PM
09/19 W. Michigan 2:30 PM
09/26 VS Wake Forest (Bank of America Stadium) TBA
10/03 VS Wisconsin (Lambeau Field) 7:30 PM
10/10 Stanford 7:30 PM
10/17 @ Pittsburgh TBA
10/31 Duke 3:30 PM
11/07 Clemson 7:30 PM
11/14 VS Georgia Tech (Mercedes Benz Stadium) TBA
11/21 Louisville
11/28 @ Southern California TBA

(04-06-2020 02:24 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 10:12 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 10:06 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  If they’re ignoring all OOC contracts because they can’t meet them all, then I’d guess the SEC and ACC would just add another conference game. If they made an arrangement to play a different OOC team than one of the teams they’re contracted to play they might be opening a can of worms.

In the case of the ACC, I tried to only preserve existing OOC games - starting, of course, with the 6 games setup with Notre Dame this year. I had to switch a few games - like UConn was set to play at UNC but the Tar Heels also have Auburn, so I moved UConn to Syracuse (which didn't have any OOC games it could really keep), etc.

Notre Dame replaces Clemson with Miami so that the Tigers can keep the Gamecocks, and VT replaces GT so that the Jackets can play the Bulldogs. Stuff like that.

In this scenario, ND might want to cut an ACC game or two to keep others on the schedule, like Navy, Stanford and Wisconsin.

(my guesses on ND's prefered games in this scenario in bold)



2020 Football Schedule

08/29 VS Navy (Aviva Stadium) 2:00 PM
09/12 Arkansas 2:30 PM
09/19 W. Michigan 2:30 PM
09/26 VS Wake Forest (Bank of America Stadium) TBA
10/03 VS Wisconsin (Lambeau Field) 7:30 PM
10/10 Stanford 7:30 PM
10/17 @ Pittsburgh TBA
10/31 Duke 3:30 PM
11/07 Clemson 7:30 PM
11/14 VS Georgia Tech (Mercedes Benz Stadium) TBA
11/21 Louisville
11/28 @ Southern California TBA

My premise was no OOC games for Big Ten or Pac-12 teams due to their 9-game conference schedules... but you could play 5 ACC teams + Navy, I suppose (assuming the Middies are available)

I can tell you right now what the SEC will do:

1) 8 conference games
2) 9th game will be determined by $$$. Either they will play the OOC that will earn them the most, or they will play the OOC that would cost them the most to breach a contract if the language does not allow for a cancellation. In any case, the bottom line will take the day.

(04-06-2020 02:37 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 02:24 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 10:12 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 10:06 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  If they’re ignoring all OOC contracts because they can’t meet them all, then I’d guess the SEC and ACC would just add another conference game. If they made an arrangement to play a different OOC team than one of the teams they’re contracted to play they might be opening a can of worms.

In the case of the ACC, I tried to only preserve existing OOC games - starting, of course, with the 6 games setup with Notre Dame this year. I had to switch a few games - like UConn was set to play at UNC but the Tar Heels also have Auburn, so I moved UConn to Syracuse (which didn't have any OOC games it could really keep), etc.


See, conferences always mess these things up ! :)
Notre Dame replaces Clemson with Miami so that the Tigers can keep the Gamecocks, and VT replaces GT so that the Jackets can play the Bulldogs. Stuff like that.

In this scenario, ND might want to cut an ACC game or two to keep others on the schedule, like Navy, Stanford and Wisconsin.

(my guesses on ND's prefered games in this scenario in bold)



2020 Football Schedule

08/29 VS Navy (Aviva Stadium) 2:00 PM
09/12 Arkansas 2:30 PM
09/19 W. Michigan 2:30 PM
09/26 VS Wake Forest (Bank of America Stadium) TBA
10/03 VS Wisconsin (Lambeau Field) 7:30 PM
10/10 Stanford 7:30 PM
10/17 @ Pittsburgh TBA
10/31 Duke 3:30 PM
11/07 Clemson 7:30 PM
11/14 VS Georgia Tech (Mercedes Benz Stadium) TBA
11/21 Louisville
11/28 @ Southern California TBA

My premise was no OOC games for Big Ten or Pac-12 teams due to their 9-game conference schedules... but you could play 5 ACC teams + Navy, I suppose (assuming the Middies are available)

See, conferences are too inflexible and always mess these things up !! :)